Scum and mafia are synonyms for me in the context of the game, I wouldn't classify a SK as scum since they're not aligned with the mafia.

not saying lock-scum just scum points. We'll see what else will happen in the course of the game.

As for scene being SK. Sure that'll yet again throw all my reads into re-evaluation phase. But I'm inclined to think he's mafia, because as a SK the mafia would probably have nightkilled him, thinking him the juicy target he claimed.
But we'll all know more after his flip.

@ZFR can you please confirm or deny you gave me a warning please? I'm already upto 4 votes and think only you can save my good name. Thanks in advance

As for the less reactionary players, why lynch when you can investigate?

None of you stopped being Scum. But Dessimu has been on my radar throughout Day 1, he was my first vote, I listed my analysis of him go and read it. You talked about 'throwing heat' I assumed you meant the players on my wagon but actually Dessimu was close to voting for me to and I'm pretty sure he would of wagon jumped if he was active.

I'm genuinely unsure which players on my wagon were/are Scum. I'd have to go back and look at the order they voted. But then I'm unsure whether the Scum player would want to start the wagon early or get on late as it's gathering pace. Lift generally was my strongest Scum read throughout but I've been wrong in that in the past. Trent and Lift have twisted my words after my vote. You Gogtrial have tunneled continually at me. And Joe stayed on my wagon throughout. There HAS TO BE SCUM THERE!!!!

I'm not going to step away from my logical analysis because I suspect 2 players more intensely. It doesn't stop me suspecting Trent, Joe, GOG. And I could have misread those first 2 and it could be Trent, Joe and GOG as Scum.

You're reading a bit too much into that one. As a highly functioning alcoholic I can drunk post quite well I'll have you know. I have a high threshold and I'm only on my third tonight.

There's already plenty of rope to hang me with. But isn't there anyone else lynchworthy?

Maybe that's true and maybe it is not ;)
I think this is Scummy talk that further increases my suspicion of you and SirPrimalForm

There are certain facets of being a doctor that should not be revealed to Scum. That obviously includes a doctors strengths and powers alongside who they protect. If you're going to ask me to do that I'd have to assume you're Scum playing dumb.

Vote Lift or SirPrimalForm maybe...hmmm it's bloody obvious a doctor shouldn't reveal all.

Don't forget to give some yourself.

Seriously though, why are you turning this about lock-scum and scum points when I question your decision to have everyone on supplementscene's wagon as confirmed town?


Would only players not on the mafia team go over his claim and notice things that look/are off about it? If yes, why? And do you discard the case they might have picked up something in it that tipped them off he is scum, but left him alive (for a couple of reasons I can think of)?



The C9++ mafia wiki page begs to differ.



You were asked before, I'll ask again? How do you know that there's a Cop in play?


Really? What game was that?

And this page contradicts itself within one sentence, defining it as the informed minority even though serial killers are not informed. Anyway, I'll try and stick to saying mafia and SK, but if I do use the term scum then read mafia.

I don't but I assume it's likely there's a cop

In SecretHitler I was wrong about RWarehall who got Scumbuddied and the last game I was just wrong about Vitek.

If supplementscene isn’t mod killed he is definitely lying and needs to be lynched, he’s already double posted again.

1. That's why I was confused by the question

2. Sure, in a different situation, especially if the Doc can't protect the same target twice, such an information could be useful for scum.

3. I have no clue what other scum tried to teach Scene at Night or what he planned to do as SK. Maybe this 'I don't want to say anything that could benefit scum' is just his way to appear towny? Perhaps he thought that would work better than making up someone he 'protected'? Who knows.


Because town can't know if there even is an investigator. And you haven't answered yet why you are so sure that there is one.

It's a C9++ setup with a twist.

with the way the last day and the end of day went. Can you seriously imagine scene and lift being scumbuddies?
I'm not saying everyone on his wagon is locktown. I'm saying I can't imagine Lift or Bookwyrm or even SPf being scumbuddies with scene. Can you? seriously?

it's a moot question. I'm fully intending to see his flip at the end of today and then we'll see. If he is mafia, none of this matters. if he is SK, I need to go back through all of D1 re-evaluating all my reads anyway. Why do it now, when we don't know yet? Maybe there isn't even a SK around? who knows? I don't.

Vote count:

supplementscene - 4: mchack, trentonlf, Lifthrasil, SirPrimalform
Lift - 1: supplementscene

Everyone else: 0
Not voting: everyone else

True. And ZFR is around. The modkill hasn't happened. So Scene's "I'm on probation and if I even double post again I'll be modkilled" statement was another lie.

Funny thing, SKs are still mentioned on that page. Perhaps it's the case when a SK is the only scum in a setup (I think that JMich run such a setup once)? The definition is definitely not true when there's a mafia team + SK, but then it's also not true when there are more than one mafia teams.

I appreciate the effort, and will keep the disclaimer in mind.



Based on what is it likely and not just possible?



Well, he did leave himself an out with that "apparently".



Except that I didn't ask you about the what, did I? You don't need to play that ignorant; you've been in a few scum-chats, I have too, and thus we both know how that goes.



Perhaps I have a more vivid imagination than you?

Let's just say that I'm not ready to discard anything this early in the game.

Vote supplementscene

I'm okay with policy lynches on repeat rulebreakers and most likely liars. I also don't think many of his suggestions for who cops should investigate and what he can and can't reveal make sense.

Also, if my understanding of the setup is correct (I just jumped in and could be wrong) scum was roleblocked last night. It was either mafia trying to kill town (or I guess getting really lucky with a serial killer hit - but I'm going to assume most likely town) or serial killer trying to kill mafia / town. I don't understand why supplement wouldn't tell use who he protected to try and help out.

I expect some random made up name shouted out in desperation after he sees this vote.

Hey Ixam, it’s great to see you playing again!! You gave your thoughts on Supplementscene, what are your thoughts on the rest of the game? Not asking for a reads list, just your overall thoughts.