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Hey, GOGgers,

We're not perfect, we're exploring new frontiers, and we make mistakes. We thought DRM-Free was so important that you'd prefer we bring you more DRM-Free games and Fair Price was less critical and that it could be sacrificed in some cases. The last two week's worth of comments in our forums (nearly 10k!), show that's not the case. We didn’t listen and we let you down. We shouldn't sacrifice one of our core values in an attempt to advance another. We feel bad about that, and we're sorry. Us being sorry is not of much use to you, so let’s talk about how we will fix it.

One: DRM-free forever. Abandoning fixed regional pricing means it will probably take longer to get some games, but you've made it clear that sacrificing fair pricing for more DRM-free games isn't acceptable.

Two: We will adamantly continue to fight for games with flat worldwide pricing. If that fails and we are required to have regional prices, we will make up the difference for you out of our own pockets. For now it will be with $5.99 and $9.99 game codes. In a couple of months, once we have such functionality implemented, we will give you store credit instead, which then you will be able to use towards any purchase and cover the price of it in full or partially. Effectively gamers from all around the world will be able to benefit from the US prices.

This will apply to every single game where we do not have flat pricing, such as Age of Wonders 3 (full details here), Divinity: Original Sin, and The Witcher 3. If you remember the Fair Price Package for The Witcher 2, this will be exactly the same.

Three: We still intend to introduce the pricing in local currencies. Let us explain why we want to do it and how we want to make it fair for everyone. From the very beginning our intention was to make things easier for users whose credit cards/payment systems are not natively in USD. The advantages are simple because the price is more understandable and easier to relate to. There would be no exchange rates involved, no transaction fees, and no other hidden charges. However after reading your comments, we realized we have taken an important element away: the choice. In order to fix this, we'll offer the option of paying in the local currency or the equivalent in USD. This way, how you pay is always your choice.

Four: You are what matters, and we will be sure to involve you all more in what we're doing and why we're doing it. Let's start by meeting you at GDC - we’d like to invite you to meet us face-to-face Monday the 17th at GDC. Obviously, not all of you can come to San Francisco, so we want to invite all of you to an online event with us early in April to ask us whatever you would like. More details soon.

The bottom line is simple: there may be companies that won't work with us (although we will work hard to convince the most stubborn ones ;). Yes, it means we might miss out on some games, but at the same time GOG.com will remain true to its values and will keep on offering you the best of DRM-free gaming with Fair Prices.

Once again thank you for caring so much about GOG.com. We will work hard not to disappoint you again.

--Marcin "iWi" Iwinski & Guillaume "TheFrenchMonk" Rambourg
Actually there are downsides in plane prices.
For example I wanted to buy Divinity: Dragon Commander. Steam offers it for 600 rubles (~$14.5) without any discounts. I've just bought it on GOG for $22.5 during weekend promo with 50% discount to support DRM-free gaming. So there is no reason for Russian users to buy modern games from GOG instead of Steam except of good will because Steam prices are usually much lower.
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heliar: Actually there are downsides in plane prices.
For example I wanted to buy Divinity: Dragon Commander. Steam offers it for 600 rubles (~$14.5) without any discounts. I've just bought it on GOG for $22.5 during weekend promo with 50% discount to support DRM-free gaming. So there is no reason for Russian users to buy modern games from GOG instead of Steam except of good will because Steam prices are usually much lower.
Just out of curiosity, just how much is 600 rubles in terms of everyday living?

For example, 44 zloty, ($14 USD) can be about a day or two worth of food for a single person in Poland.
Post edited March 15, 2014 by JudasIscariot
I've been avoiding partaking in this thread because my posts in the other ones were very negatively received, which basically led me to ignore said threads and stay off them permanently.

But I really have to say thank you to GOG, and congratulate the community for speaking their mind and making themselves heard on this subject -- if you hadn't, this change of mind would never have happened.

I'm happy with this "return to roots", although I wasn't that bothered with what GOG was trying to do, in the first place, when they introduced regional pricing, but this makes me worry about GOG's medium-to-long-term future. They're being the "nice guy" we always knew them to be, willing to take the bullet for the team just so the community stays happy, and going back on their recent policies means they are now covering part of the costs of regional pricing in new games out of their own pockets. I wonder if this is good, from a business and economical perspective... I want GOG to stay healthy and to grow stronger in a digital market full of distant, out-of-touch, DRM-filled distributors and stores, and it's worrying that the price to pay for being in touch with your customers and community is this.

I was willing to support GOG through their regional pricing policy, out of all of the good stuff they gave me in the few months I've been here, because I think they deserve my trust and my money, and they proved yet again they certainly do earn those, by addressing the community with this open letter, letting us know they are listening, they care and they aren't willing to sacrifice their current user base in favour of a hypothetical future one.

Now, I just hope this doesn't somehow backfire in the future.

Best of luck, GOG, and, again, thanks to all the community members who spoke their minds and discussed these issues with GOG.
I buy from GOG instead of Steam or other alternatives whenever I can because I feel it is a market pressure for good. It is a way for me to vote with my money.

That means supporting you guys because of the values you defend. I have 83 games (including the freebies) and I will continue buying games here for as long as my money serves to force companies to play fair.

I understand the opportunity in offering newly released games. There is undoubtedly a lot of money to be made there. As long as the games have no DRM, no regional pricing, no usage tracking and no other marketing trick, it is a great addition to the selection. But adding games that don't respect these values only serves to dilute the impact of my support to GOG.
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JudasIscariot: Just out of curiosity, just how much is 600 rubles in terms of everyday living?

For example, 44 zloty, ($14 USD) can be about a day or two worth of food for a single person in Poland.
This could be helpful:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Mac_Index
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Lone3wolf:
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Rusty_Gunn: I respectfully disagree (at least for myself)

1) I wasn't thinking of just me when I backed the more global option I was thinking of those less fortunate than myself

2) there wasn't a guarantee that Zenimax/Bethesda would have brought any games over anyways
Good! I like disagreements! Soul of conversations <3

1) I could care less if I paid a few more, or less, pence per game, and I can avoid bank charges for paying in dollars (£1.25!!) by using other methods like PayPal, I sure would have liked to see how the change would have actually affected anyone/everyone before raising a crybaby whingefest about imagined "bad!" changes, first, though. Sure, the sky COULD be falling in on us, but is it really? Jumping to conclusions is bad form without any real evidence to support the claim. And that's what we get here, on GOG, on a REGULAR basis about ANY changes in their service. It's detestable.
IMO, anyway. It's depressing. It's as depressing as watching the GOPtards in 'MURKA! claiming there's no global warming, or Obama is a Kenyan Muslim Socialist. It's totally against established facts. And hypocritical.

2) No, you're right. There's no guarantees for that. There's hope, though. What if one, or THE, stumbling block to them signing up WAS the price thingy? Sure, it probably sucks for some people/regions, to have it, but if it brings their, or some other massive, back catalogues into the fold, isn't a small sacrifice worth at least a test to see if it's actually worth fighting for/against? See! I can imagine possibilities, too! :P
Unless GOG come out and tell us who's holding back (extremely unlikely) all we know know is that someone/few companies will not be bringing their games here for now, if ever. But hey! look on the bright side! Which is....we're not getting some more old games!

Meh. Back to worrying about more important things...like who the fuck let Michelle "Batshit" Bachmann into the UK, and WHY, and then arrange a hitman or three for them both....
I must say I am... impressed. In a positive way. That's pretty rare, to not say unique, in the video game industry of today.

That's a very Interesting move there GoG.com, I'm gonna keep an eye on the regional prices and see how it goes - words are great, facts are better.

You, as a company, seem to have properly understood what was at stake and I like it. Does it mean you'll resume to be one of the very few places that are actually consumer-friendly, siding with the consumers on key points ? Only time will tell.

You were playing with fire, you're now walking a tightrope... Be sure to make the right choice for the consumers, they'll be the only ones left when the video game industry will drastically change.
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JudasIscariot: Just out of curiosity, just how much is 600 rubles in terms of everyday living?

For example, 44 zloty, ($14 USD) can be about a day or two worth of food for a single person in Poland.
I'd say that's worth two or three day food for a person.
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BKGaming: Quoting this for the truth. I would loved to know where those people that were boycotting were going to go? Steam? How is that different? DRM and no bonuses? That's better?

This whole thing is ridiculous... people spoke without thinking & GOG listened and now we will all see the outcome.
I'm just curious, but would you continue to support GoG if they went ahead and got all these new games, and instituted the higher prices in the countries the publishers demanded them too, but to keep things fair they also raised prices an equal amount in all of the other countries too?
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JudasIscariot: Just out of curiosity, just how much is 600 rubles in terms of everyday living?

For example, 44 zloty, ($14 USD) can be about a day or two worth of food for a single person in Poland.
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heliar: I'd say that's worth two or three day food for a person.
Thanks for the answer :)
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Novotnus: This could be helpful:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Mac_Index
Wow, Romania is in the top ten of slowest earned big mac :(. A big thanks to the EU making everything more expensive.
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Novotnus: This could be helpful:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Mac_Index
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blotunga: Wow, Romania is in the top ten of slowest earned big mac :(. A big thanks to the EU making everything more expensive.
Luxembourg: 11
Nicosia: 12
Dublin: 14
Vienna: 14
Frankfurt: 15
Munich: 15
Amsterdam: 16
Berlin: 16
Copenhagen: 16
Helsinki: 16
London: 16
Paris: 16
Lyon: 17
Stockholm: 17
Madrid: 18
Milan: 18
Barcelona: 19
Brussels: 20
Lisbon: 22
Rome: 23
Ljubljana: 25
Tallinn: 28
Athens: 30
Bratislava: 32
Riga: 33
Vilnius: 33
Prague: 34
Sofia: 36
Warsaw: 36
Budapest: 49
Bucharest: 57
(According to the quoted file, 2012 data.)

I'd lay more blame on our own, both the rulers and everyone else who puts them and allows them to stay there without fighting for something better, than on the EU...
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Cavalary: I'd lay more blame on our own, both the rulers and everyone else who puts them and allows them to stay there without fighting for something better, than on the EU...
That too, still the most annoying part is that we already have EU prices for almost everything, but nowhere near EU incomes. And that is not just because of our liar/thieving politicians.
I still have to express my thoughts about this change of plan. I like it and I think it's a good way to win back customers even though it could be avoided in the first place giving more attention to your community and sharing more ideas with them. I hope this won't became a commont thing in the future, you screwing community, community pointing it out, you changing mind, all back the beginning with a twist. All this energy could be better used if you stay true to your principle and dialog with the community. Good news indeed, happy to have you partially back.

I was going to refrein myself from buying here for at least 2 month, like I did for your infamous pr stunt (you don't seem to have learned well from past errors), but this time the situation is going toward a solution in less than a month, so I'll probably be your customer again starting with AOWIII.

About this I want to point out that while I think it's right that you give back the difference with your wallet (you wanted a game with regional price, not us), I think this is not fair or good for you because developer who sell games with regional prices doesn't take damage in the process. For them it's still the same while instead they should starve (sold unit wise) for providing a product sold in an unfair way. Otherwise what could change their mind? You pay for their greed, so they are not discouraged in keeping the situation the same and doing that in the future. The best option would have been to not add the game to your catalogue, using your relevance on the market as a way to show how much they would loose in the process and maybe wrote something viral on the web to expose the behavior and do them (or generally the ones that use the same kind of regional pricing) a bad publicity. And obviously praise and show how the ones that do flat prices are doing great anyway. They don't learn if they are not hurt financially.

I hope you'll advertise in some way title with regional prices, maybe with a badge of shame like suggested by many.
Post edited March 15, 2014 by MIK0
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MIK0: *snip*
I'll probably be your customer again starting with AOWIII.

About this I want to point out that while I think it's right that you give back the difference with your wallet (you wanted a game with regional price, not us), I think this is not fair or good for you because developer who sell games with regional prices doesn't take damage in the process. For them it's still the same while instead they should starve (sold unit wise) for providing a product sold in an unfair way. Otherwise what could change their mind? You pay for their greed, so they are not discouraged in keeping the situation the same and doing that in the future. The best option would have been to not add the game to your catalogue, using your relevance on the market as a way to show how much they would loose in the process and maybe wrote something viral on the web to expose the behavior and do them (or generally the ones that use the same kind of regional pricing) a bad publicity.
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Yes, that would have been the best way. However, the 2nd best way now is for customers to send that message instead, not buying those games and telling the publishers exactly why (otherwise a non-sale doesn't in itself send a message), so your decision to become their customer again starting with AoW3 just about shoots that in the foot, precisely for the reason you listed. Could buy anything but that...

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blotunga: That too, still the most annoying part is that we already have EU prices for almost everything, but nowhere near EU incomes. And that is not just because of our liar/thieving politicians.
I'd refer you to page 8 of that same document, which puts Bucharest right at the bottom regarding prices, only above Mumbai and Delhi among the classified cities. The problem is the poor earnings / prices ratio, 13.5 / 39.8, hence poor purchasing power.
Post edited March 15, 2014 by Cavalary