You don't know the context entirely, so you don't know how my stance is on it and why. But either way, I'd like my mod removed from this as they did not have enough respect for me to even ask if they could host it on their site directly.

If those on here can't understand why somebody might not like having their name and work slapped into something they don't consider up to their personal standard of quality, than they have not created anything they cared about before and take pride in. No matter how small the mod in question was I put my effort to create it, bug-test it and upload it for users in the community to use in their game.

I did not however give a large game publishing website permission to slap my work on this pre-pack, incompatible mods and all, and call it a day.

Nope, it depends on the type of licence applied to something. For example, if I take shantae from GOG that was recently given away, this does not give me the rights to distribute it as I want. Mod sites generally have agreements and terms of service to both cover themselves and keep ownerships.
To me, I think GOG have stepped in a bit of a squishy one here. It’s all well and good selling games, but packaging up various bits of content from across the web at the behest of a YouTuber is a bit of a big step. With very little to really gain over just pushing out news stories which detail where you can get all the elements like they have been doing.

Wrong. The game Shantae is a commercial product. A mod is not unless sold as such and that would then constitue piracy. Which the modding community usually does not license in this manner.

Nope. I'd even respect the hell out of a bat-crazy fella such as the likes of Carl Kenner, no matter if it's freely distributed before I renege on the license. It's theft and fraud any way it is cut.

You have no honor.

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No matter how small the mod in question was I put my effort to create it, bug-test it and upload it for users in the community to use in their game.
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^^^ This is actually giving permission by the way....no....seriously, in a court of law this is permission. Anecdotal referrence while having a law discussion. I heard about a cop making a suspect angry because the police wanted a DNA sample. The suspect refused and after being made upset, the suspect spat on the cop. The cop said thank you and used that "sample" against the suspect and the court allowed it as it was freely given.


We the community, appreciate the work that was done to make the project better. The permission is implied when given freely. Like making a copy from a radio delivered song. As gog is freely giving it away. They do not need explicit permission directly from the source. At least in Poland. But also in reality in general, irregardless of law.

Could someone sue? Maybe. Would paying money over a international method be finacially viable? No. Literally paying for principle and only resulting in a year later take down is a moot point and proves nothing.

No, it's not a permission of distribution. It was a permission for use. Personal use, specifically. Not distribution.

Being abusive to me for explaining reality to people, is less honorable. I am not working for gog. I am providing viable reason to what other people are doing and having expectation of in contrast to how things would go.

I'm not being abusive. You're being told you're wrong. I would even say you should refer to a lawyer before speaking of such things to educate yourself. You're trying to create excuses against other modders objecting to abuse of their work.

Well said!

Learn to read. Its in there.

I still have the classic The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall in my account and also the Daggerfall Unity - GOG Cut.

Nope. You should re-read it.

Actually read what I wrote. Last time I reply on this before I take it as trolling. Have a nice day.

The real-world isn't remotely that simple. If I created a Neverwinter Nights mod and uploaded it to Neverwinter Vault, people can download it from there to use for free, but it doesn't automatically mean that they can upload and publish it elsewhere under their own name as the searchable "developer" (which is the case here), nor can Valve start harvesting 3rd party mod sites like Nexus or ModDB for content then dump everything on the Steam Workshop for them to republish if the author's chose to not upload there. Freeware doesn't mean a license for 3rd parties to plagiarise then re-publish anything at will just because it's "free" on another site as you seem to believe.

This whole situation is probably "communication incompetence" rather than malice, but the way this was launched was poorly thought out. (GOG are even listing it with the Developer = GOG tag in the "Game details" section, which isn't true or cool to do at all). Here's some complaints from several of the other modders from their own forum:-

- Unofficial Block Location and Model fixes by XJDHDR = "Just want to give a heads up that GOG does not have my permission to include my mod, UBLaMF."

- Readied Spellcasting Hands by jefetienne = "I just found out about this now, and I was never contacted. We might need to contact GOG about this."

- "I see joshcamas mentioned on the Discord server that he also hadn't given permission for his mod".

- "Does anyone know this gamerzahk guy who was supposedly involved and could they ask him for input on all this? I've never even heard of him."

- "Stealing mods is not okay and has been the source of major backlash+drama on Nexus Mods, Bethesda Workshop and other mod hosting sites. There is nearly no faster way to have members of the community leave than when they see their work stolen."

- "I was happy at first but that's starting to change after realising it's Windows only"

- "Will they keep the mods updated? Did they check for compatibility issues (Going of off a reddit post, the answer is no as it ships two incompatible mods) before shipping this?"

- DREAM author - "I wanted that too (to see the mod list to check), not because I dont want to be associated with a mod, but because I wanted to make sure, no other mods will interfere with DREAM in a bad way, thus making my mod look bad or bugged. They did not do that and included mods which do EXACTLY that. I offered help there, they just straight up ignored it 2 times and released something Im not that content with. Me personally, Im glad for the spotlight DFU is getting, but this left more bad taste in my mouth than I expected, for all the reasons mentioned by me and others - using their work without permission and telling ppl they have all permissions is a no no in my book."

So people here hating on the modders for truthfully stating they didn't give permission might want to dial their chronic over-entitlement back a bit and look at it from the perspective of a modder who may have spent hundreds of hours only to randomly see his work suddenly published elsewhere with a "Developed by GOG" tag at the behest of a Youtube curator that they've never even heard of...

So you consider it wasn't and oversight? something personal or what? Because honestly I do not see the point of mail to someone and not to others.

Interesting the world of mods