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Posted May 16, 2019
Prettiest Princess Award:

One votes for:
blotunga (ZFR)

Two votes for:
Microfish (blotunga, bookwyrm)

Closest to winning the contest with 2 votes is Microfish, it takes 5 votes to win the contest.
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Countdown Timer
Posted May 16, 2019
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yogsloth: I would trade me for a guaranteed wolf pelt

You saying you think we have that here?
I'm gonna need a bit more time to be able to guarantee stuff but we'll get there if were are lucky.

Anyway, Yesterday you said you would vote blotunga to save yourself but you didn't assist with the lynch. Blotunga didn't seem to be interested in claiming or even sticking around to see what would happen (which is quite odd on its own btw) so I don't think we would have gotten a anything out of him at L-1 but the possibility of a lynch was pretty much there (of course, in hindsight, the lynch would have probably failed just like it did considering what happened but but we didn't know that would happen).

The point is you said you would vote him but only to save your own life and you basically opted for no-lynch instead. I don't think I've ever seen you shy away from lynching without certainty, so this looks weird to me. I may be missing possibilities here but I can only come up with one scenario where such a move would make sense on D1 and it has to do with public transportation.

Speaking of moves,

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yogsloth: solid move
That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works!
Posted May 16, 2019
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Bookwyrm627: Or maybe your continued dithering is proof that you don't want to make a misstep and out yourself as scum.

If we're going to talk about what a lack of involvement proves, you know.
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Korotan: Hey I had no acces to my laptop the last few days. Anyway vote me or vote me not, I will enjoy it unto the end hoping to get out alive.
Heh. I wasn't talking about you having to go afk; Life Happens.

I'm talking about you making pre-emptive excuses for "continuing confusion". If you truly want to get better at arguing then you're going to have to read the game, form some opinions of your own, and actually argue them.


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Microfish_1: my reasoning was based off of last game where the scum team NK'd based off of who was a bother to them, but not the biggest bother, or so they thought. They chose someone who was suspicious of them, but wouldn't immediately be seen as "they voted X, Mafia killed them=X is scum" They went with a target who would only abstractly be connected with them, or who wouldn't immediately confirm the ID of the mafia.

Therefore, I see the following as what could have happened:
1) Pooka is breathing down Yog's neck. Yog might or might not be scum.
2) at the last he switches to Book
3) Scum!Book says "Pooka's main suspect is Yog, but he voted me at the last. This is bad. Therefore...
4) "We can NK him without suspicion falling on Book; if anyone it would fall on Yog."

Also, I see one of Book, Yog, Flub, and Joe being scum, just based of 1/4 of players (about) being scum; I haven't played against any of them before, and thus don't know their styles.

I Like Joe--his playstyle and himself; I can't see myself voting him as yet, but I thought the same of HSL and got snookered as a result.

Therefore, all this to say, I suspect Book because he was Pooka's #2 target and the person that Pooka ended up voting for at the deadline. I less suspect that Yog would off Pooka because Yog was Pooka's main target and can't risk drawing more attention to himself.

OC, Book could be town, or both Book & Yog could be scum, in which case my whole theory implodes.
I think you put together a script or something during the Night to push my lynch. Several people were already willing to lynch me, so it might work, right?

Pooka never voted me. Not even once. Not even during RVS. I just went back to check, yet again, and it still isn't there.

Pooka didn't even express suspicion of me. Are you seriously going to argue that I was his second biggest target, and he didn't bother to change his vote to me in the last little bit before deadline? That he didn't see fit to move from Yog, who had 2 votes, to me, who had 4 votes and a 5th person who had JUST stated they were seriously considering me as a possible mafia?

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dedoporno: Anyway, Yesterday you said you would vote blotunga to save yourself but you didn't assist with the lynch.
Yog explicitly declined Blotunga's lynch. I'm not sure what to make of that yet.
Posted May 16, 2019
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ZFR: What do you think about blotunga? Including the fact that he voted you so quickly (because you voted quickly).
I don't like it; I don't really like Blot in this game at all, but not enough to lynch.

Also, his whole "Microfish smells fishy" is just a horrible pun. I can see him voting me, as I was voting before falling asleep (and I did fall asleep at my keyboard 20 minutes later), but just no, overall.

I think one of the 4 who didn't play in last game are scum, as well as one or two of those who did. I am open to Blot.

Books voting me was probably OMGUS, and thus has little weight behind it. If things develop differently than i currently see them, I'll be willing to vote for others, of course.

ALSO: while we're on the subject, what in the world is up with
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ZFR: Leaves turn golden yellow in fall. Though some remain green throughout the year.
????
That is one of the most seemingly off-topic serious answers (and taken as such by Blotunga)!

is this daytime code from one scum to another to return results of an investigation (similar to Blot's "As for a codeword, I have no idea, coming down with the flue, so i guess I could use some sort of thing like I had 5 hours of headache which would mean the 5th role of whom I investigated and maybe that I will be away for 6-7 hours which would mean the 6th qualifier" in the mafia talk from last game)????
Posted May 16, 2019
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Microfish_1: ALSO: while we're on the subject, what in the world is up with
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ZFR: Leaves turn golden yellow in fall. Though some remain green throughout the year.
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Microfish_1: ????
That is one of the most seemingly off-topic serious answers (and taken as such by Blotunga)!
Blotunga made an excessively obvious statement about power roles. ZFR's response highlighted just how obvious a statement it was.
Posted May 16, 2019
ah, thanks. Also, doing an ISO of Pooka, I saw his 232 as being very suspicious of you, but maybe it was not. As stated above, i "logicked" when tired; All I can say is that I'm a town.

Also, re-rereading 232, Pooka said you were suspicious; if you were scum, perhaps this was enough for scum to lynch town in hopes that the townie couldn't develop their line of reasoning any further.

I strongly suspect you, Blot, ZFR (random comment mentioned above) and Yog in no particular order.
Posted May 16, 2019
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Microfish_1: ALSO: while we're on the subject, what in the world is up with
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ZFR: Leaves turn golden yellow in fall. Though some remain green throughout the year.
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Microfish_1: ????
That is one of the most seemingly off-topic serious answers (and taken as such by Blotunga)!
Bookwyrm answered this, but I'll just add that this was also a reference to obvious "revelations" during last game, made by non-other than scumBlotunga himself.

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/captain_sapphire_the_movie_gog_mafia_57/post806
Posted May 16, 2019
ah, thanks. I guess Blot looks scummier than Book atm, but I can't switch my vote right yet without looking flighty & thus scummy.
Posted May 16, 2019
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Microfish_1: Also, re-rereading 232, Pooka said you were suspicious; if you were scum, perhaps this was enough for scum to lynch town in hopes that the townie couldn't develop their line of reasoning any further.
Another lie. Provide a direct quote, or it didn't happen.

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Microfish_1: ah, thanks. I guess Blot looks scummier than Book atm, but I can't switch my vote right yet without looking flighty & thus scummy.
If I didn't know better, I'd think you were a Jester.
Posted May 16, 2019
I'm not having strong reads on either blotunga or bookwyrm. And they're looking like the more viable lynches today...

Interestingly, bookwyrm voted yogsloth, then unvoted, then voted him again.

^^can be read as suspicion. Maybe I misread, but yeah.

Also, I have seen enough times where people are stuck with the label of "mafia" because they switch who they are voting for, that I don't want that to happen. Maybe I am tunneling; maybe it is a worse sin to stick with a less-likely-mafia vote than switching to a more-likely-mafia vote, but.... I'm stuck without a way out.
Posted May 16, 2019
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Microfish_1: I strongly suspect you [Bookwyrm], Blot, ZFR (random comment mentioned above) and Yog in no particular order.
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Microfish_1: I'm not having strong reads on either blotunga or bookwyrm.
This is like, minutes apart.
Posted May 16, 2019
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Microfish_1: I'm not having strong reads on either blotunga or bookwyrm. And they're looking like the more viable lynches today...

Interestingly, bookwyrm voted yogsloth, then unvoted, then voted him again.

^^can be read as suspicion. Maybe I misread, but yeah.

Also, I have seen enough times where people are stuck with the label of "mafia" because they switch who they are voting for, that I don't want that to happen. Maybe I am tunneling; maybe it is a worse sin to stick with a less-likely-mafia vote than switching to a more-likely-mafia vote, but.... I'm stuck without a way out.
He says he doesn't have a strong read, and somehow that means I'm his second biggest suspect? Where would you say Blotunga ranked in Pooka's suspicions?
Posted May 16, 2019
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Bookwyrm627: Yog explicitly declined Blotunga's lynch. I'm not sure what to make of that yet.
That's my point.


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Microfish_1: I think one of the 4 who didn't play in last game are scum, as well as one or two of those who did.
You mean to tell me 2 or 3 of us 10 players are scum??

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Microfish_1: ALSO: while we're on the subject, what in the world is up with
????
That is one of the most seemingly off-topic serious answers (and taken as such by Blotunga)!
Looks pretty sensible to me. One might even say it's sensible of the commonly type. Solid content right there.
Posted May 16, 2019
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yogsloth: This is like, minutes apart.
the second part was quoting Pooka's 232, specifically
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PookaMustard: This is difficult. I'm not having strong reads on either blotunga or bookwyrm. And they're looking like the more viable lynches today. .
the first bit,
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Microfish_1: I strongly suspect you, Blot, ZFR (random comment mentioned above) and Yog in no particular order.
was me, myself.


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Bookwyrm627: He says he doesn't have a strong read, and somehow that means I'm his second biggest suspect? Where would you say Blotunga ranked in Pooka's suspicions?
I was perhaps trying to read too much into it, and base my play off what a scum!HSL would play, as he was a good scumcoach in the last game, and i think the mafia in this game might try similar strategies;

for now, though, you got your wish

@Mod, Unvote Bookwyrm
Posted May 16, 2019
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Microfish_1: the second part was quoting Pooka's
Well, ya gotta actually quote then

Otherwise it's you
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