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Krypsyn: Not Vitek.
I understood that much before, but thanks for confirming that much for sure. I was just wondering if you'd be willing to provide the detail of whom you actually thought was most likely. If you aren't willing to provide that detail, I wonder, based on your previous vote, if you still think it is mchack. I appreciate any input you can provide.
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drealmer7: I was just wondering if you'd be willing to provide the detail of whom you actually thought was most likely.
Not presently.
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Krypsyn: Well, why wait for a deadline? Ixamyakxim is the easiest lynch, and, although I don't think he is the scummiest, I think he is scummier than the next best target of Vitek.
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trentonlf: That is a bold statement....
Sad but true :( I wish I had jumped and made the Vitek / mchack vote when I first mentioned it to push that a bit and see what would happen (I can link to the post where I mentioned it if anyone cares that much for my reasons), but this is too true and I don't think it's an awful play. Sucks for me, but there you go.

And I don't want to pull my vote of agentcarr now, because much like my HSL vote I think it's a solid one that has more legs to it than any other vote I could make at this moment.

Keep your eyes on agent, HSL and perhaps Crewdroog (though my reasons for suspecting Crew are totally, utterly "meta" - and that's in a meta game LOL - I don't expect a newbie to play that way Day One, and I didn't like the aggressive post in response to my theory).

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drealmer7: With that logic, it makes it more likely that there are multiple intruders voting for Ixamyakxim with 5 (now 6) votes moreso than Vitek with 3.
I really still don't think that's the case, unless Krypsyn was scum and I don't have too much reason to suspect that. I think smart scum would realize it would be enough to let town lynch Day One. I could be wrong, but my gut says no. I'd be surprised if there were more than one scum on me presently to be honest.
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Ixamyakxim: I'd be surprised if there were more than one scum on me presently to be honest.
Please go ahead and link your link.

So you think the invaders are just spread amongst everyone or not voting rather than have pushed the pool towards you (or anyone) on D1?
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drealmer7: So you think the invaders are just spread amongst everyone or not voting rather than have pushed the pool towards you (or anyone) on D1?
I really do. Here's the link, let me know if it doesn't work:

http://www.gog.com/forum/general/forum_mafia_31_crisis_at_space_station_epsilon/post756

If I had been paying better attention and realized Vitek already had a few votes, I probably would have been more inclined to push that wagon if only to draw in a few more votes. Now, I think that ship has sailed and as Krypsyn pointed out I think splitting the vote between Vitek and myself, and then a quick deadline flock to someone else is too dangerous a thing to tempt.
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QuadrAlien: <snip snip cheerio>
Well, that was anticlimactic.

I'd almost have preferred to have it fail, just so we know what dangers we're dealing with.

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trentonlf: That is a bold statement....
Very nicely done...

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drealmer7: <snipping, snipping, 1, 2, 3...>
I'm inclined to disagree with you. I would expect that with 6 voters for Ixamyakxim, a maximum of 2 are scum. Of course, I don't really know, but that's my expectation.

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Ixamyakxim: And I don't want to pull my vote of agentcarr now, because much like my HSL vote I think it's a solid one that has more legs to it than any other vote I could make at this moment.
What made you pull off of HSL and come at me? I'm going back through your posts and I don't see you getting a satisfactory answer from HSL, so why the switch? Was mine worse than HSL's?

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Ixamyakxim: (though my reasons for suspecting Crew are totally, utterly "meta" - and that's in a meta game LOL - I don't expect a newbie to play that way Day One, and I didn't like the aggressive post in response to my theory).
This doesn't parse nicely. Does everything within the parenthese refer to Crewdroog only?


I really don't feel like playing Day 1 any longer, but I don't see Ixamyakxim as particularly scummy. If I jump on his wagon now, with my only reason being that I'm bored, that'll look awfully scummy on Day 2 and I have no particular desire to be a mis-lynch. (LAMIST! Wheee!)
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agentcarr16: ...
Well, if you want day 1 to end, make an argument for who you think is most intruder-like, vote for them, see if others agree and also want to vote for that person. Please. Or at least just vote for who you think is the most intruder-like. Please.
So, Ixamyakxim, let me get this straight, you are suspicious of Crewdroog, HypersomniacLive, and agentcarr16?

...

I can't do it. I just don't think Ixamyakxim is scum. I don't think Vitek is scum either.

Unvote: Ixamyakxim
Vote: agentcarr16
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agentcarr16: ...
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drealmer7: Well, if you want day 1 to end, make an argument for who you think is most intruder-like, vote for them, see if others agree and also want to vote for that person. Please. Or at least just vote for who you think is the most intruder-like. Please.
But that sounds like work...

I'd have to, like, go back through the thread and, like, read stuff.

I'd rather that someone claim Godfather Nexus.
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Ixamyakxim: And I don't want to pull my vote of agentcarr now, because much like my HSL vote I think it's a solid one that has more legs to it than any other vote I could make at this moment.
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agentcarr16: What made you pull off of HSL and come at me? I'm going back through your posts and I don't see you getting a satisfactory answer from HSL, so why the switch? Was mine worse than HSL's?
Good question. I'm... honestly not sure. I think they're probably equally scummy. It was almost the exact same (scummy) move in my opinion. Pulling off of HSL and moving on to you, while referencing back to HSL was a good way for me to draw attention to both you and HSL and stamping that with my vote.

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Ixamyakxim: (though my reasons for suspecting Crew are totally, utterly "meta" - and that's in a meta game LOL - I don't expect a newbie to play that way Day One, and I didn't like the aggressive post in response to my theory).
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agentcarr16: This doesn't parse nicely. Does everything within the parenthese refer to Crewdroog only?

I really don't feel like playing Day 1 any longer, but I don't see Ixamyakxim as particularly scummy. If I jump on his wagon now, with my only reason being that I'm bored, that'll look awfully scummy on Day 2 and I have no particular desire to be a mis-lynch. (LAMIST! Wheee!)
All Crew, yes. You'll probably find you get called out for "not wanting to do something because it'll make you look scummy."
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agentcarr16: I really don't feel like playing Day 1 any longer, but I don't see Ixamyakxim as particularly scummy. If I jump on his wagon now, with my only reason being that I'm bored, that'll look awfully scummy on Day 2 and I have no particular desire to be a mis-lynch. (LAMIST! Wheee!)
...and agent was one of my two not playing his meta. After the whole "silent treatment" earlier, then the hard-core stat/role/title fishing that made it look pretty clear he was trying to collect basic information he didn’t have, it’s impossible to ignore.

Ix, you think there are no Scum on your wagon? I agree, although that’s partly because you’re still near the top of my list. If you put a gun to my head and forced me to make a list of a four-man Scum team, none of the six people voting for you would be on it.

If I can’t have Ix today, I will gladly take agent instead.
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Krypsyn: So, Ixamyakxim, let me get this straight, you are suspicious of Crewdroog, HypersomniacLive, and agentcarr16?

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I can't do it. I just don't think Ixamyakxim is scum. I don't think Vitek is scum either.

Unvote: Ixamyakxim
Vote: agentcarr16
I agree with you on Vitek, I don't see him as scum. I'm still not convinced on Ix though. What makes you suspect agentcarr16 (other than his post justifying jumping on Ix's wagon if he does)?
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agentcarr16: I really don't feel like playing Day 1 any longer, but I don't see Ixamyakxim as particularly scummy. If I jump on his wagon now, with my only reason being that I'm bored, that'll look awfully scummy on Day 2 and I have no particular desire to be a mis-lynch. (LAMIST! Wheee!)
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yogsloth: ...and agent was one of my two not playing his meta. After the whole "silent treatment" earlier, then the hard-core stat/role/title fishing that made it look pretty clear he was trying to collect basic information he didn’t have, it’s impossible to ignore.

Ix, you think there are no Scum on your wagon? I agree, although that’s partly because you’re still near the top of my list. If you put a gun to my head and forced me to make a list of a four-man Scum team, none of the six people voting for you would be on it.

If I can’t have Ix today, I will gladly take agent instead.
I'd disagree that I'm playing against my meta because I'm doing my best to not have a meta. And I'm not sure that I see how that's fishing. I can look at my PM and make a guess at how stuff is working. One of those options is the one that I think is happening. I didn't ask anybody to comment on it. I didn't ask for stats/roles/titles.
People seem to have been putting those out there without much hesitation. For that matter, I'd be perfectly happy to claim my own stats and title if you want me to.

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Ixamyakxim: All Crew, yes. You'll probably find you get called out for "not wanting to do something because it'll make you look scummy.
OK. Thanks.

And I was perfectly aware of what I was putting out there. I have no reason to vote Ix, so I'm not going to and I'm saying that I'm not going to. Call me out if you wish. It was legit, if LAMIST.


And yes, I'm going back to read the thread and vote for someone. Just give me some time...
Gah, finally a bump! Was dying over here waiting the ten minutes.

Should have refreshed first.

Yeah boys, what do you think of this:

Unvote Ixamyakxim

Vote agentcarr16

Still want primary spot on that wagon, Ix?
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yogsloth: Ix, you think there are no Scum on your wagon?
I'd be surprised if there's more than one. I think that one is most likely HSL and if you want to know why I can track down the post where I feel like he made an insinuation that served no purpose other than to drawn suspicion on a player using obviously ungrounded information.