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And by my count we've got about 3 minutes to the expected Crisis resolution. Here's hoping that it happens on time.
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agentcarr16: And by my count we've got about 3 minutes to the expected Crisis resolution. Here's hoping that it happens on time.
Yeah? Good luck to everyone then!
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agentcarr16: 1.2
I don't like Vitek and his 17.
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agentcarr16: 1.3.3
The stats are linked to the alignment. This could provide an explanation for Vitek claiming 17 FIN, and it would make thematic sense. However, 17 still seems unlikely and I still don't see a reason for Vitek to actually claim that.
While I don't think this is the important takeaway from Vitek's comment here, I DO think it might have revealed something (along with others' comments) about potential stat arrays. HOWEVER because I'm not sure who it is more helpful for, I don't want to go into detail on what I think here.

Your suggestion that stats are linked to alignment however reminds me of the exact same thing I jumped on Hyper for - this seems like a statement designed less to shed meaning on the situation and more to offer a subtle insinuation that Vitek is "different" and scummy. I also find your posts to be less about analysis and more about sussing out Crew Stat Arrays. I know I had my own (mild) concerns about Vitek but I don't like the direction of these posts.

Vote agentcarr16
"Very well, then," Q.U.A.D. remarks, as the doors unlock for the first time since you arrived here. A number of the ship's droids are outside, waiting with the equipment the team needs, but something else seems amiss...

"Q.U.A.D.", starts Dreamler7, apprehensively, "...Where is everyone?"

"Oh, the rest of the crew? Well, as I said, the scan showed I'd successfully sealed the intruders in this room, so while you've been busy I've been running an evacuation of non-essential staff aboard Space Station Epsilon. As word of this got out we'd have had issues with people trying to get off the station anyway - thought it best to have anyone who wants to escape do so while there's no chance of an intruder sneaking out with them."

"Anyway, I believe you four have a mission to attend to, and you've got all of your equipment ready. Good luck!"

"Er, I have a question," interjected a voice from the back of the room, seeming uncomfortable for an entirely different reason. "Might I be excused? I need to visit the lavatory..."

Q.U.A.D. pauses, and has the decency to look slightly embarrassed. "Ah, I hadn't thought of that. Very well - we've not got any further ships currently on board, and I'll be warned if anyone tries for an escape pod."

There is a slight rush to leave for much the same purpose from quite a number of those not currently occupied with the mission.

"...Well, then. As I said, good luck, team!"

Crisis Event Team Selected - Resolution In Progress - Estimated Completion 20:30 GMT 13th October

(Apologies to all those who thought you were getting an answer immediately - future Crisis Event selection may be shorter if not over a weekend.)
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QuadrAlien: Estimated Completion 20:30 GMT 13th October
I LOL'd.
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QuadrAlien: Crisis Event Team Selected - Resolution In Progress - Estimated Completion 20:30 GMT 13th October
Fascinating.
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QuadrAlien: Crisis Event Team Selected - Resolution In Progress - Estimated Completion 20:30 GMT 13th October

(Apologies to all those who thought you were getting an answer immediately - future Crisis Event selection may be shorter if not over a weekend.)
Heh.

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Ixamyakxim: Your suggestion that stats are linked to alignment however reminds me of the exact same thing I jumped on Hyper for - this seems like a statement designed less to shed meaning on the situation and more to offer a subtle insinuation that Vitek is "different" and scummy. I also find your posts to be less about analysis and more about sussing out Crew Stat Arrays. I know I had my own (mild) concerns about Vitek but I don't like the direction of these posts.

Vote agentcarr16
Interesting.
If I counted right, I've got 6 possibilities there, but you don't like one of them, so I'm obviously scummy. (paraphrase)
Oh, and they're possibilities, not suggestions. I refuse to admit that I'm suggesting any one of those over the others.

What is there to analyze? It's Day 1 and we don't have the Crisis to analyze yet, so what else am I supposed to do? Stats are the only interesting thing to talk about at present, so I'm talking about them. They're a mechanic, so they have some kind of structure, and I'm trying to figure out the structure.

Sorry, but that's kind of weak in my opinion.
Methinks there might be a game mechanics reason for the delay. If so, it has a few interesting implications. I'll leave it at that.
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agentcarr16: Interesting.
If I counted right, I've got 6 possibilities there, but you don't like one of them, so I'm obviously scummy...

What is there to analyze?
Another interesting misrepresentation. Vitek's "stat" of 17 actually occupies multiple spots on your list. As far as what is there to analyze - that was a bit of my point. Your post feels like faux analysis rooted in a desire to collect information on high stat crew members.

But like I said, the more damning thing is that you took an obviously absurd statement and (twice) tried to turn it into an insinuation that Vitek could be scum. I jumped on HSL for his choice to do something similar and it's just as glaring to me here.
Excellent, now we're theorizing about the situation at hand. I like it.

I think Vitek's 17 could be legitimate and not even suspcious because of varying factors. It's just possible, you know? Here's some theorizing, it doesn't mean that I still don't find his behaviors enough to vote for at this point, I'm just thinking/providing thoughts about different angles of it all.

It could be because of being luckily born into a great gift that makes him more graceful or stronger or intelligent or who knows, maybe some unique quality that most people aren't born with.

----non-RP meaning for clarity ----

if stats were "rolled" he could have simply gotten a crit. on a stat roll and it means nothing more about him.

or

it is tied to the role he plays/if he plays a role, whether it an intruder or crew member one, who knows, it could be either regardless of the high stat if it is true

---- resume RP ----

OR,

He could have entered 17 on purpose just to see what reaction he would get, not actually having the quality himself.

or,

He could have been entering his log and actually mistakenly mis-typed 17 and meant "7", and could not edit his log entry, and he got a reaction before he could say anything about it even perhaps? I am not sure. Or as soon as he mis-entered it, he could have realized it would cause a reaction and decided to play with it, and is messing with everyone.

but,

The fact that I don't think he's provided much of a satisfactory answer about it is what I find more suspicious than anything, regardless of its meaning. I suppose at this point he could create a lie or tell us the truth and we'd have no way to believe him either way based on anything more than our own judgement/being influenced or convinced of someone else's viewpoint strongly enough to agree to vote the way they did, for him or not.

I do realize that:

He could be a crewmember with that stat., have mistakenly spilled it as so, mistakenly drawn suspicion to himself for an unsatisfactory answer of why he said it, and be kicking himself for doing so and not know what to do.

or really,

He could just be an intruder being extremely nefarious in all sorts of ways, causing a ruckus, having some other bad intentions, who knows.

I am open to all theories on him, as you see. Most of all I would like to hear what he has to say, it's not like just because I've voted for you we can't communicate peacefully and come to understanding that makes me unvote you.

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dedoporno: ... we don't know whether or not our crew is entirely human. Neither do we know that about the intruders. Yes, the OP says "unidentified life forms" but that can also applied to something partly robotic/cybernetic.
Exactly, not to instill further paranoia to everyone, but these are the sorts of thoughts I've had all along.

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CarrionCrow: Not much chance of that. I don't think town people are usually given the power to kill off others besides the lynch ability.

I think we all have templates - pre-made character sheets. Some people might not have role abilities, but it doesn't make sense to me that some would and some wouldn't. Might be wrong but it feels like an imbalance.
I think both of these are possibly false assumptions entirely. I believe it is very possible that, and even makes complete sense to me that:

There are people (crew+intruders alike, while intruders will still have ability to participate in the choosing of who gets eliminated at night, but, abilities aside from that is what I'm talking about here) that do have special abilities and those who don't. There is usually a hierarchy on a crew, and some are just peons while others hold positions of importance. I also believe there could be positions assigned to crew+intruders that are nice titles/positions that sound good and all, but actually don't mean they have any special abilities to use. With those thoughts, I don't see why a crew-member or intruder couldn't potentially have the ability to kill someone outside of vote, regardless of during a specified time of day/the usual vote of elimination for whichever day/night elimination they are a part of.

I like/agree that the other possibilities that have been being presented by you and others (nods to dedeporno, CarrionCrow, agentcarr16, Krypsyn, Ix, etc.) They could all be, well, just that, possibilities. It's a hard judgement, group, let's not our choices become personal or hold them against people for purporting the possibilities about general situations OR individuals, sure, defend yourself or someone else if you feel the need to, but don't hold extended grudges if anyone is mistaken. We must realize that ALL of it could be wrong too, maybe we're all crew members and the intruders have barely spoken a word, letting us all be turning on each other and making a mess.


GOOD LUCK on the crisis, team!
Righto!

First one to diagram drealmer7's arguments gets ... well, the satisfaction of finishing?
I think everyone that has been attempting to do serious analysis of Vitek's stats claim post should go soak their heads in a bucket of ice water.

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Ah shit, there went my resolution. Well, I almost made it through a whole Day.
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yogsloth: I think everyone that has been attempting to do serious analysis of Vitek's stats claim post should go soak their heads in a bucket of ice water.
Oh, come on. Everyone can see that if you subtract 1 and take the square root, then double it, then add 27 you'll get his Snooker skill! Duh!
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Krypsyn: Righto!

First one to diagram drealmer7's arguments gets ... well, the satisfaction of finishing?
Not me LOL
Krypsyn and yogsloth and anyone else:

The gist of my comments about Vitek's 17 comment mean exactly that essentially: that analyzing it is utterly pointless at this point. It could have even been a typo is one of the points I made.