Listen, I know we’re not lynching the Captain Today. I know there’s no chance of that. But we have a long way to go, and this needs to be organized now while there’s still opportunity for me to organize it.

Deliberately misleads the group into thinking he didn’t pick the teams. Piles it on with a bunch more posts after that.

Gives instructions to Scum team not to investigate agent.

The first appearance of the “This game is already broken and Town can’t lose” assertion.

Game is “broken” again. Gives his Scum list. Crew/wyrm is on it, and so am I. How do you guys feel about it, flub and HijacK?

Accuses flub and I of being scum due to “staged spat”. I recall no such spat.

Game is suddenly not quite so broken, and he now has his “out”, in case he lynches people and they flip Town.

Reveals his “gambit”, which presumably was lying about not being the team picker.

Game is back to being broken again.

Game is now completely broken again. In the same breath, votes Bookwyrm.

I’ll skip the “HijacK made me ragequit, nah, I’m back” bit.

So Ix is so Town. Yeah, we’ll come back to this. Note that it was posted before he voted.

Next up is all the bits about how he can’t reveal his INT stat, because after claiming his title, role, abilities, and hinting at an extra power, listing his single INT stat would just tell the Scum too much information. Start with 2002 and just go down to about 2021.

The comment that set me off. Just killed the doctor, and doesn’t care, as long as we agree that doesn’t make him wrong.

The back-breaker, in my opinion. Not only is he demanding that we treat his role as “Innocent Child”, but he actually claims that Scum in his position would deliberately make it obvious they sabotaged by mis-assigning people. This has two massive and obvious problems:

1) The initial teams would be put together before role and stat claims. Scum wouldn’t know how to mis-assign people.
2) Once stats become known and claimed, how could Scum deliberately mis-place people? Wouldn’t that raise a red flag or two for the rest of us?

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Now let’s look closely at his final wagon record, in this “broken” game that Town can’t lose.

Day 2:

That puts him seventh on the wagon, as part of the zerg-rush to lynch Ix in the moments before the crisis resolution became known. This is after #1692 above, where he confirms how Town Ix is, and as you can see, the vote itself is a total non-sequitur. Moments later, drealmer comes in to hammer, and Ix is sewn up without a chance to talk and the crisis fails.
Day 3:

Jumps on at 4th position, pushing the wagon up to full speed, then celebrates all the way down the hill, even after it becomes obvious Wyrm has killed his Town self out of some kind of childish spite.
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RW has spent the entire game attempting to convince us it’s Broken in favor of Town win, and barely worth even playing anymore because of that. And then he’s personally shepherded two different Town lynches, overseen a failed crisis mission, and is absolutely demanding that he be beyond reproach simply due to his role and nothing else, no matter how he behaves or what his actual, verifiable results are, or if we’ve identified a single bad Scum at any point.

We’re in Day 4, and it’s looking more like a massacre for the other team than a broken win for Town.

We may not be lynching him Today. The margin of error has become too thin. But his play just has to be on the table for analysis. There is no Innocent Child in this game. And the stakes are just too high to give such a free pass when we should be doing the opposite, and paying as much attention as possible.

One of the droids that had been carrying the equipment for Crisis Missions comes in, states: "The intruders are eliminated, and at least one non-Droid player has survived," and promptly wanders off.

I disagree.
Yeah, don't get me wrong, I find RWarehall all kinds of scummy. But I could say the same about Bookwyrm, and look how that ended...

But it all comes back to there is literally no way his role could be scum. Yes, that does basically make him mod confirmed town, but I really don't see any other option.
He could be neutral, but if so then lynching him does not help town one little bit right now. The margin for error is too small to lynch him at this point.

You can argue about it all you like but I just don't think it's a good option.

Um...did I, as well as JMich, just essentially get declared as town by the mod?

I've just stated the Droid win condition for anyone to use, regardless of alignment.

Perhaps this was in error. I'm really not sure anymore.

It was.

I'm seriously considering whether I should continue or not. Activity will be reduced for the next days while I ponder it.

It's the "intruders are eliminated" part that's sticking out just a bit.

The term intruder has been interchangeable with scum. If a droid isn't an intruder, if it's not possible for a droid to be one based on the win requirement, then all droids are town.

I'm misreading your previous post #2183 like this: 2 roleblockers at large + jailer + one roleblocker publicly claimed = four current roleblockers. Hence why I brought it up.


Perhaps he's a town arsonist.

Please continue.....I need you.

Wow....I yogslothed the thread.

Maybe we should open up a strip club in here and see if it gets people interested in the thread again ;-)

oh yeah droids gone wild ;)

So there seem to be more fireworks going off and another questionable mod intervention. I'm really going to have to do some serious analysis tomorrow, but I'm on the phone at the moment and it's late. For now, I'm looking sideways at all of our roleblockers/jailers and our Inventor type.

Excuse me, excuse me my fellow Crew (and you two droids, I suppose), may I have everyone’s attention please?

Excellent.

Everyone, please have a seat. And when I say please, I mean do it right now. Yes, yes, this is really a Kill-O-Zap gun in my hands. Yes, I just extruded it from my abdomen. No, it didn’t hurt. You see, my compatriots and I from Tauceti Octor IV have a few important announcements to make. Yes, this would be a good time for you to pray to Zarq as I see you doing over there, Mr. “Health and Safety” expert. Ha!

You’ll remember us. We were the delegates who arrived a few weeks ago to negotiate a trade agreement with you stubborn, delicious humans. And your Captain threw us out. Us! High delegates of the great Shifter himself! Told us he “wouldn’t negotiate with you filthy shapeshifters”. Said he blamed us for the loss of Space Station Delta. We didn’t tell that silly cargo tech to confiscate our pet, now did we? Hardly our fault.

Anyway, when we couldn’t negotiate a proper deal with you tasty humans, we decided the only course of action was to infiltrate you and take your precious station through stealth and treachery. So we killed four of your crew and… hid… the bodies, and then took their places. After watching you lot bicker and argue and backstab endlessly for the last few days… and I mean, my goodness, really… my friends and I have come to another conclusion.

You can have your lousy space station.

We are taking our leave from you and escaping via one of your own shuttle craft. Enjoy the hatred and mistrust you all seem to have for each other, boiling just beneath the surface of your delightful skin, which tastes so good pan-fried with just a touch of butter. And a clove or two of garlic. But not too much, just a pinch, you don’t want to spoil the human skin with too much garlic. Just a touch.

mchack, could you get the shuttle ready? adaliabooks will collect what valuables we will take from the station. And HijacK – yes, yes, yes, you may punch the Captain on the way out. Just a tap. A tap. A TAP, HijacK, now look what you’ve done! That poor maintenance droid is going to have his work cut out for him now.

And now, as I believe you humans say… snooch to the nooch.

And oh, by the way… I sincerely hope you all enjoyed the hot dogs.

I made them myself.

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…and with that, we bring the game to a close. Scum team had a conference with Quad in the scumchat thread (and via PM), and we thought this would be the most equitable and fair thing to do. Between the three separate interventions (stopping mchack’s lynch, confirming RW’s role by ending the Day 2 selection early, confirming JMich and CarrionCrow) that benefitted both sides, it appears the game just became hopelessly bogged down in technical problems. No matter which side won, it would be a big asterisk on the score sheet. We think this one should be scored a “no decision” all the way around.

There are no hard feelings on our side, as we know Quad didn’t purposely intervene on behalf of either side, and was just trying to do damage control. Let this game stand as an important learning experience to all players and future mods: PM dick-measuring contests are despicable. They are to be avoided at all costs. This is the 3rd game I’ve been in that’s been ruined by them, and if you want to moderate a game, you must make extra extra EXTRA careful sure you won’t have that problem - either by putting all standard PM info in the OP, or by giving every single player a completely different PM. If you have ANYTHING that is copy-and-pasted for Town and a different set for Scum, you’ve done it wrong. Always consider hiring an assistant mod to check for these things, and if you are an assistant, this is your #1 job, which I learned myself when I failed at it back in #26… a game that similarly ended badly because of this problem.

Hope everyone did have a fun time. I had a blast. The flavor and setup were great. The crisis event dynamic was great, and kept Scum just as confused as Town. Can’t wait to see how all the pieces fit together, and what the hell Vitek was dumping in the air vents, lol. Too bad we didn’t get a chance to make up our own lie to cover that one.

… and Town?

We were running the table on you. :)

PS: I am so, so sorry bler. I do hope you will consider speaking to me again. Someday.

PPS: See attached.

The game was truly broken when mchak posted PM info, RW was right. This is why I despise talking anything in PM's as it breaks games.

Now I would not say you were running the table, but it had gotten to the point that the numbers were against town to win because scum had enough left to manipulate any vote that happened because of the mod interventions. If Quad had not stepped in and stopped mchacks lynch the game would have been ok and maybe taught a lesson to people that revealing PM info will get you lynched.

I thought the whole premise of the game was a very good one and I did enjoy it, look forward to the next :)

Ummm. OK. Well, that was fun.