Posted September 07, 2015
Thanks for all the wishes. It’s a chronic condition that likes to give me trouble from time to time, especially when the weather is grueling sultry.
Your last name wouldn't happen to be House? ;-P
So, should we be asking ourselves what information agentcarr16, BlueMooner, and you have?
Curious what you mean by that.
And I said it was painful to watch, not to listen to, though I liked the ones you posted in the sign-up thread much more.
It has?
The argument I made is not against your interpretation of his actions, but against the source material you claim he's basing them on.
My point is that yogsloth is not necessarily paraphrasing his PM. Since the full Town PM template is in the OP, he (and everyone else) can very easily paraphrase that, even if he has received a very different PM. In other words, the fact that he's paraphrasing does not mean that he actually received a Town PM.
A town player is a player that can't be certain of anyone's alignment but their own, particularly on D1. Everything anyone else says may or may not be true. may or may not be in town's interest. Without some kind of proof, they just can't be certain.
A scum player may be pushing an agenda against a town player or in favour of a scum-buddy, but a town player may find that someone else's behaviour is scummy and react on it. Some players push more, some push less.
One tries to piece things together by applying logic and watching out, so what flubbucket said.
Your last name wouldn't happen to be House? ;-P
JMich: On the opposite. If person A says he believes B without explaining why, that means you get to evaluate person A's play to see whether you should accept it or not. And you also get a second possible flip to get extra info.
Same thing holds true with a cop hinting that someone is town, without revealing how he knows it, or a tracker hinting, or anyone else that has information they don't feel comfortable sharing yet. So ask yourself, what information could said person have that allows him to see what I'm missing?
emphasis added. Same thing holds true with a cop hinting that someone is town, without revealing how he knows it, or a tracker hinting, or anyone else that has information they don't feel comfortable sharing yet. So ask yourself, what information could said person have that allows him to see what I'm missing?
So, should we be asking ourselves what information agentcarr16, BlueMooner, and you have?
yogsloth: [...]
And, of course, it's always possible it blows up in my face and gets me killed or worse.
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emphasis added. And, of course, it's always possible it blows up in my face and gets me killed or worse.
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Curious what you mean by that.
Krypsyn: I made a comment to agentcarr16? Oh, because of the pi thing? No... I was indicating we were talking in circles (2pi = 360 radians) as usual for Day 1, hence the Go and Stand references in the videos. Sorry you didn't like the songs though, I rather like them. ;)
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I guess I read too much, or too little, into those links. [...]
And I said it was painful to watch, not to listen to, though I liked the ones you posted in the sign-up thread much more.
RWarehall: In mafia games (other than GoG), the posting of a full sample PM is often standard. Pretty much for the reasons you've already speculated on. In terms of scum advantage, I'd rather town lynches them for the lies themselves instead of getting the secret handshake wrong.
And for the record, the role of "God" is completely non-standard. It merely reflects the inflated ego of your moderator...
I've not played mafia outside of GOG. Does this standard apply only to the Town PM? And for the record, the role of "God" is completely non-standard. It merely reflects the inflated ego of your moderator...
It has?
BlueMooner: [...]
Emm... did you miss my own quotation marks? I didn't say Yog proved he was town, I said his post was him "proving" he was town, as in, that's what he was trying to do, hence my quotation marks. The same marks you used when saying Yog "proved" nothing. And I obviously saw the OP where the GM talked about paraphrasing PMs, since I referenced that very thing when I said "him paraphrasing what the GM sent him". Did you really not understand any of that??
I mean no offense when I ask this. Is English your first language?
No, English is not my mother tongue, but I understood you just fine. Not sure if you didn't understand me, or if you're acting as if you didn't. Emm... did you miss my own quotation marks? I didn't say Yog proved he was town, I said his post was him "proving" he was town, as in, that's what he was trying to do, hence my quotation marks. The same marks you used when saying Yog "proved" nothing. And I obviously saw the OP where the GM talked about paraphrasing PMs, since I referenced that very thing when I said "him paraphrasing what the GM sent him". Did you really not understand any of that??
I mean no offense when I ask this. Is English your first language?
The argument I made is not against your interpretation of his actions, but against the source material you claim he's basing them on.
My point is that yogsloth is not necessarily paraphrasing his PM. Since the full Town PM template is in the OP, he (and everyone else) can very easily paraphrase that, even if he has received a very different PM. In other words, the fact that he's paraphrasing does not mean that he actually received a Town PM.
A town player is a player that can't be certain of anyone's alignment but their own, particularly on D1. Everything anyone else says may or may not be true. may or may not be in town's interest. Without some kind of proof, they just can't be certain.
A scum player may be pushing an agenda against a town player or in favour of a scum-buddy, but a town player may find that someone else's behaviour is scummy and react on it. Some players push more, some push less.
One tries to piece things together by applying logic and watching out, so what flubbucket said.