Ixamyakxim: Confirmed long term yes. But again we're still early in the game, and for one day I don't mind making assumptions. I'm biased so here are my assumptions:

I don't feel bad, for just today, assuming Bookwyrm really is the deprogrammer. Thereby I'd like to know the townie he found last night. I also don't mind assuming cult wouldn't have wasted their conversion on Dessimu last night (though they'd be silly not to convert him in the next day or two - sorry Dess!).

So with myself there's a voting block I feel really strongly about for today. Other assumptions - right now we're at a really unique point in mafia games - we can get a really good idea of who, for the moment, is town. We can really "pare down" the potential lynch candidates for today.

Come LATER days, that's going to get harder and harder which is why it's very important to do now. So, here's my "no vote" list for today: Me (LOL), Dessimu, Bookwyrm, Bookwyrm's townie.

Ironically, as time goes on (ESPECIALLY without a better confirm on Wyrm) that list will become my MOST suspected list because cult CAN'T let known townies persist.

Vote flubb for consistently trying to obscure the value of learning a short term townie block by trying to equate it to what's going to happen in later days.

Still worry about drealmer and I will RADICALLY alter my view on Bookwyrm if I think he's using this deprogrammer "role" more as protection / manipulation than to help town.

Bookwyrm627: You may have to, eventually. Sometimes this game comes down to deciding which gut instincts to trust.

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I notice that J "Man With a Plan" Mich hasn't had much to say thus far on D2. He's mentioned schedule issues, and most recently submitted a plea about how he doesn't get reads right anyway. Need to review what he's added beyond said plan and semantics arguments.

Agent promised Walls of Text on D1 while catching up. Either he is bad at WoT, or he doesn't quite know the meaning. Or he had less to say than anticipated.

Drealmer's stance change-up has already been pointed out. I noticed that near the end of D1, he also came around pretty easily to CL+1 as a possible game start. Bears monitoring.

I still can't read Flub worth a boop. He seems to be contributing a little bit, at least at some level. He has indicated rereads he plans to perform, but hasn't revealed any conclusions or thoughts acquired by those rereads. Reminds me of JMich in this regard.

Cristigale has been very quiet. Too quiet?

I keep getting Docbear and Fantasy mixed up in my head. Really need to go back and sort out which one held what opinions.

Ix. What to do about Ix...

Dessimu. Yep, he's the vig alright.

agentcarr16: @Bookwyrm - I think I see it, but I don't agree.

cristigale: Is the second emphasized portion an exception to the first emphasized portion?

flubbucket: The big danger in cult games is assumption. Ixamyakxim was town last round as well as Dessimu and Bookwyrm627. So this round two of those three must??? be town.

Bookwyrm627: Do you have a mitigation for the problem?

agentcarr16: I feel the benefits of a momentarily confirmed Town outweigh the WIFOM introduced by notifying the CL of your targets.

Bookwyrm627: I'll run through my targets D3 or D4.

In the meantime, I don't care to leave a trail of "I won't be visiting this person again for awhile" behind me.

Ixamyakxim: Still worry about drealmer and I will RADICALLY alter my view on Bookwyrm if I think he's using this deprogrammer "role" more as protection / manipulation than to help town.

Bookwyrm627: If you can guarantee I visited a townie last night, I'll be happy to tell you who it was.

agentcarr16: Fair enough.

Ixamyakxim: Vote Bookwyrm

Ixamyakxim: I'm an idiot. I've been overthinking so many things RE: Bookwyrm I missed the most obvious.

Ixamyakxim: Unvote

I'm an idiot. I've been overthinking so many things RE: Bookwyrm I missed the most obvious.

docbear1975: Well, I'm still missing it.

docbear1975: Well, I'm still missing it.