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Posted December 04, 2015
I know you won't get a game that's in your GoG account, however I can see myself getting a ton of games that are either on Steam or Origin.
Posted December 04, 2015
I doubt that'll happen as it would allow users to just avoid getting any games they don't want because GOG can't really check what you really own on other platforms and what not.
Posted December 04, 2015
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Piranjade: I doubt that'll happen as it would allow users to just avoid getting any games they don't want because GOG can't really check what you really own on other platforms and what not.
Yeah they can, an open profile will allow a script to look at what games are on their profile and remove them from the pool.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/Invghost/games/?tab=all

See?

Edit: I'm not entirely sure about Origin, that one might be a bit harder, as I don't often use it much, however I know games such as Populous, Crusader: No Remorse, Jade Empire: SE, Medal of Honor: Allied Assault, Sim City 2000: SE, Theme Hospital, Ultima 7 and Wing Commander 3 and 4 would all be in the pool, which I already own.
Post edited December 04, 2015 by Invghost
Posted December 04, 2015
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Piranjade: I doubt that'll happen as it would allow users to just avoid getting any games they don't want because GOG can't really check what you really own on other platforms and what not.
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Invghost: Yeah they can, an open profile will allow a script to look at what games are on their profile and remove them from the pool.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/Invghost/games/?tab=all

See?
And what would stop people from just using any random Steam account for that?
Or would you let GOG log into your account to prove it's yours? :-p
(And even then people could just ask friends/family with many games for their login...)
Post edited December 04, 2015 by Piranjade
Posted December 04, 2015
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Invghost: Yeah they can, an open profile will allow a script to look at what games are on their profile and remove them from the pool.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/Invghost/games/?tab=all

See?
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Piranjade: And what would stop people from just using any random Steam account for that?
Or would you let GOG log into your account to prove it's yours? :-p
https://steamcommunity.com/dev

You're redirected to a secure website, where you then enter your username and password. GoG don't actually get to see the password, but they get the information of the account that logged in. And even if you just entered a username, it wouldn't really lower the pool by that much and you're missing out on games that might be good.

For example, if you were to use my name, Shadow Warrior (2013) would be removed from the pool. If you didn't have that game, why wouldn't you want it in the pool? (bar the fact it's already on special)

There isn't really a way to abuse the system with this as far as I can see and the only people who would benefit from this are those that don't want games they may already have.
Post edited December 04, 2015 by Invghost
Posted December 04, 2015
No. GOG it's GOG, Steam it's Steam. As long as you can't link your Steam account to GOG, you will not be able to do the reverse either. Beside the obvious competition, it would be possible abused. Someone could ask his friend with 3000 Steam Games to hide the games that he want and it would use his profile in order to have bigger chances at them on GOG.
Posted December 04, 2015
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Invghost: For example, if you were to use my name, Shadow Warrior (2013) would be removed from the pool. If you didn't have that game, why wouldn't you want it in the pool? (bar the fact it's already on special)
Some people only want certain games from the pool and don't like many of the other games in there.
Post edited December 04, 2015 by Piranjade
Posted December 04, 2015
Broad answer to both replies: The system can be abused with refunds anyway.

Which gives ANOTHER positive that GoG won't be bogged down with refunds for games people own on other platforms.

With the obvious competition, this would be a good thing to implement. What kind of good will is generated giving someone a game they have already, plus if they have it, why keep it and not just refund it.

In response to the fact certain people want certain games from the pool, then once again, they'd have to find a person with a ton of games that didn't already have that one game they wanted, just to increase the slim chances of getting it.

I do apologise if I'm sounding aggressive, it isn't my intention.
Posted December 04, 2015
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Invghost: Broad answer to both replies: The system can be abused with refunds anyway.
Refunding doesn't give you a game you want, it just allows you to give back a game you don't want. It doesn't limit the pool of games you could get.
Different thing.
Also: Finding one Steam account once that suit your needs is different from buying and refunding again and again and again.
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Invghost: In response to the fact certain people want certain games from the pool, then once again, they'd have to find a person with a ton of games that didn't already have that one game they wanted, just to increase the slim chances of getting it.
I don't think that would be really difficult. :-D

Also, giving people an extra incentive to buy games on Steam when they're cheap there so they might even have an advantage in the next GOG random sale thing might not be in GOG's best interest IMO.
It would mean that GOG rewards people who own many Steam games and especially those with games they could also buy on GOG.

Edit: Sorry if I stop answering, I have to be off in a few moments.
Post edited December 04, 2015 by Piranjade
Posted December 04, 2015
A way could be developed. A way won't be developed though. GOG won't even develop a platform to check your browser for what operating system you're running and if the game is compatible with it. They definitely do not care about our other platform libraries. :P
Posted December 04, 2015
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MaximumBunny: A way could be developed. A way won't be developed though. GOG won't even develop a platform to check your browser for what operating system you're running and if the game is compatible with it. They definitely do not care about our other platform libraries. :P
You trust GoG to check your system without breaking anything?
Posted December 04, 2015
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Invghost: I know you won't get a game that's in your GoG account, however I can see myself getting a ton of games that are either on Steam or Origin.
Does Steam have a similar feature, ie. it checks that you don't have a game on some other non-Steam digital store already? Should they have it?

I guess the question becomes "what's in it for GOG?" for implementing such a feature. At the very least, I presume it would be at the very bottom of their priority list. Similarly like the complaints how some people don't like the increasing discount GOG bundles which are good for those who own games on GOG, but not as good as those who own some of the games in the bundle on other services already.

In fact, if GOG did that cross-checking for other services, then some people would probably demand that GOG should give them also a better discount for owning some of the bundled games already on other services. I recall some have already suggested that.
Post edited December 04, 2015 by timppu
Posted December 04, 2015
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Invghost: I know you won't get a game that's in your GoG account, however I can see myself getting a ton of games that are either on Steam or Origin.
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timppu: Does Steam have a similar feature, ie. it checks that you don't have a game on some other non-Steam digital store already? Should they have it?

I guess the question becomes "what's in it for GOG?" for implementing such a feature. At the very least, I presume it would be at the very bottom of their priority list. Similarly like the complaints how some people don't like the increasing discount GOG bundles which are good for those who own games on GOG, but not as good as those who own some of the games in the bundle on other services already.

In fact, if GOG did that cross-checking for other services, then some people would probably demand that GOG should give them also a better discount for owning some of the bundled games already on other services. In fact, I recall some have already suggested that.
Thing is, Steam doesn't, at least at this stage, dispense random keys.
Posted December 04, 2015
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Gnostic: You trust GoG to check your system without breaking anything?
Every website you visit is already doing it to you. What I suggested was GOG uses it to not give you a randomized game that was incompatible with your operating system. So you buy a $3 mystery game and...(check operating system; check game; if match, give game; otherwise(random-generate-another)) presto, the game you get will be Linux or Mac compatible only if you're using one of those.

Simple enough if their backend wasn't such a mess. I think they used Ruby or something. Yuck.
Posted December 04, 2015
During every sale, there are often similar questions.

To give an answer, I'll use another question -for a moment, imagine that you own GOG and have complete power over every deciison: why would you do something like this?
Post edited December 04, 2015 by Enebias
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