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Anyway, since we're on the subject - here's a cheerful little scene from the ending of a Disney sci-fi film :D
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Arinielle: Ah, another game to portray hell as being blistering hot and things mentioned here just sounds like what we usually see or hear about on animal documentaries or people that aren't so civilized. Little more than beasts acting on instinct. .. some of that torture crap is hardly worse than some of the worst BDSM kinksters....

Need more ideas of what Hell would be than just firey... Some say it's freezing the deeper you go. Some think it's a desolate place where only the empty soulless drag on for eternity with no rest. Some say it's reliving your death ( if it was a terrible one ) and witnessing many others.. perhaps even dying themselves over and over again.. just to be woken up to have it happen again and again.

I'm disappointed with what I see with this game. I had been waiting for more info on it for a good while but this isn't really doing anything that isn't already done many times over with a different coat of paint.

Wake me when there's more interesting games on succubi... *yawns*
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RedRagan: You do realize that majority of BDSM, even the worst one is always have safe word and consent right? You're acting as if this game is so "uncivilized" but since when hell and demons are supposed to be civilized? They're creatures with hatred toward mankind in a place that suppose to punish people in pain either temporarily or forever. People acting as if they can deal with fire or physical torture.
Then you misunderstood and need to read again. The game isn't so 'uncivilized' as it is just 'expected' or has no actual ...well.. anything other than the feel of an amusement park ride.

What all lives there? What are the denizens of this place like? How many types are there? What can be said of the diet and behaviors of each? How does such a place run and create it's own ecosystem to be seem as more than just something that 'exists'? It's basically still mainly leaving things to "understanding" what it is by saying it's 'Hell' and then just tossing out shocking imagery for reactions.

Make it an actual fucking place instead of just tossing shocking things in just because it's stuff you can imagine is terrible enough for a place with such a title.

I understand no specific hatred towards humans and there's no reason for it if Hell is just supposedly a place we go if we're terrible people in life. Those people may sometimes become so twisted they become those monsters.

You've been trying to defend this game with some hard brown nosing in this thread, I've noticed. I'm not interested in arguing with someone that just wants to keep trying to get people to give up because they don't agree with or not interested in the ideas the game shows. Nothing has been said about not allowing it to be sold or anything either.

Calm your ass and sit in the corner for a while. Damn.
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WinterSnowfall: A pitch black and frozen hell would be far less picturesque :P. Yet not less effective. Imagine freezing "to death", yet never dying, in pitch black, for all eternity.
Well they simply imagined what they did to real people in real life, only turned up to eleven and with the victims unable to die... and they couldn't make "cold" (no freezers yet), but a nice little fire, incandescent tongs and pokers was always possible...

Like this.
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toxicTom: Like this.
Fair point. As it is comically said, imagine not just an iron maiden, but an iron maiden with flames, skulls and serpents :P.
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toxicTom: Like this.
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WinterSnowfall: Fair point. As it is comically said, imagine not just an iron maiden, but an iron maiden with flames, skulls and serpents :P.
Iron Maiden? EXCELLENT!
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As far as completely different (from the established/traditional) takes on Hell, Purgatory or the Afterlife are concerned, I always liked this one:
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Mafwek: Yeah, but he is an (arch)angel, not a demon:D
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Breja: Aren't all (or at least most) demons fallen angels? I remember Crowley is called a demon all the time Good Omens.
No, most demons are chidlren of Lilith, Adam's first wife.

(edit - Eve was Adam's third wife)
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amok: No, most demons are chidlren of Lilith, Adam's first wife.
Or ghosts of the Nephilim. Depends on who you ask, really.
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Breja: Aren't all (or at least most) demons fallen angels? I remember Crowley is called a demon all the time Good Omens.
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amok: No, most demons are chidlren of Lilith, Adam's first wife.

(edit - Eve was Adam's third wife)
Nope, that was Frasier…

Seriously though, you would have thought if he was on wife three to get a pre-nup, I mean he had Eden, immortality, and she took it all…
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Breja: Aren't all (or at least most) demons fallen angels? I remember Crowley is called a demon all the time Good Omens.
Don't know about Christian mythology, but DC Lucifer Morningstar never appeared to me as demon in Sandman, with him being more powerful than the Endless, who themselves are more powerful than gods and demons. DC Comics wiki classify his race as "angel", with demons supposedly being different beings. My impression from Sandman comics was that he is still angel (and the most powerful one at that), just that he rebelled against the Presence.
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amok: No, most demons are chidlren of Lilith, Adam's first wife.

(edit - Eve was Adam's third wife)
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nightcraw1er.488: Nope, that was Frasier…

Seriously though, you would have thought if he was on wife three to get a pre-nup, I mean he had Eden, immortality, and she took it all…
Well, he did get the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge, clothes, and immortality is overrated.
Post edited July 09, 2021 by Mafwek
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Swedrami: The overview of the different editions again:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5Ej9n0XoAc0p8G.jpg

As of yet, GoG will carry both the "Normal" (censored) as well as the uncensored AO version.
For anyone interested, here's the source of the image:
https://twitter.com/World_of_Agony/status/1409947807616835596

This Twitter profile is the one linked in Mad Mind Studios' site, so it should be an official channel of the developers.
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Breja: Aren't all (or at least most) demons fallen angels? I remember Crowley is called a demon all the time Good Omens.
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Mafwek: Don't know about Christian mythology, but DC Lucifer Morningstar never appeared to me as demon in Sandman, with him being more powerful than the Endless, who themselves are more powerful than gods and demons. DC Comics wiki classify his race as "angel", with demons supposedly being different beings. My impression from Sandman comics was that he is still angel (and the most powerful one at that), just that he rebelled against the Presence.
True. But really usually "demon" is just uses casually for all denizens of Hell, and in broader sense for any of a vast range of beings of any number of origins. Like WinterSnowfall said, and as usuall with matters of religion and mythology, it depends on who you ask. DC/Vertigo managed to make things almost as obtuse actuall religion/mythology since Swamp Thing, Sandman, Lucifer and Hellblazer (and a few other series) are all supposed to be in the same continuity and share some characters, but a lot of their worldbuilding doesn't really fit together all too well.

Anyway, I never expected my joke refrence to Lucifer playing the piano to start so much "well, actually..." :D

Also - Hell's capital (at least in Paradise Lost), built by and for the fallen angels, is Pandemonium, which "roughly translates as "All Demons", but can also be interpreted as Παν-δαιμον-ειον, Pandemoneios or "all-demon-place". Milton's a good enough authority for me :)
Post edited July 09, 2021 by Breja
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Mafwek: Don't know about Christian mythology, but DC Lucifer Morningstar never appeared to me as demon in Sandman, with him being more powerful than the Endless, who themselves are more powerful than gods and demons. DC Comics wiki classify his race as "angel", with demons supposedly being different beings. My impression from Sandman comics was that he is still angel (and the most powerful one at that), just that he rebelled against the Presence.
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Breja: True. But really usually "demon" is just uses casually for all denizens of Hell, and in broader sense for any of a vast range of beings of any number of origins. Like WinterSnowfall said, and as usuall with matters of religion and mythology, it depends on who you ask. DC/Vertigo managed to make things almost as obtuse actuall religion/mythology since Swamp Thing, Sandman, Lucifer and Hellblazer (and a few other series) are all supposed to be in the same continuity and share some characters, but a lot of their worldbuilding doesn't really fit together all too well.

Anyway, I never expected my joke refrence to Lucifer playing the piano to start so much "well, actually..." :D

Also - Hell's capital (at least in Paradise Lost), built by and for the fallen angels, is Pandemonium, which "roughly translates as "All Demons", but can also be interpreted as Παν-δαιμον-ειον, Pandemoneios or "all-demon-place". Milton's a good enough authority for me :)
Heh, I really liked your joke, but just played that because I've never considered DC Lucifer a demon. And DC's mythology is major clusterfuck because you have wide array of authors with different ideas writing in a shared universe. To it's credit, it managed to be less of a clusterfuck than 40K, despite being older!

If we are going to talk about real world usage of the term "demon" I prefer the original Greek one, "daimon", where it meant lesser deity as opposed to evil spirit.
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Breja: Aren't all (or at least most) demons fallen angels? I remember Crowley is called a demon all the time Good Omens.
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Mafwek: Don't know about Christian mythology, but DC Lucifer Morningstar never appeared to me as demon in Sandman, with him being more powerful than the Endless, who themselves are more powerful than gods and demons. DC Comics wiki classify his race as "angel", with demons supposedly being different beings. My impression from Sandman comics was that he is still angel (and the most powerful one at that), just that he rebelled against the Presence.
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nightcraw1er.488: Nope, that was Frasier…

Seriously though, you would have thought if he was on wife three to get a pre-nup, I mean he had Eden, immortality, and she took it all…
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Mafwek: Well, he did get the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge, clothes, and immortality is overrated.
So eve had to cover up, Adam grew old and died, all the whilst knowing how bad it was and how good it was before. Mmm, your not selling it to me.
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Gog shouldn't sell Satanist games.