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I have 635 games on my GOG library.
When I stopped buying from GOG a few years ago, I had about 70 games on STEAM. Now I "own" 450 there. Haven't bought a single thing from GOG since and hadn't used the forums for almost 2 years. And I see that not only things haven't improved, but they have gotten a lot worse.

It is also surprising to see how the tables have turned. Years ago STEAM was the evil company with a toxic community while GOG was the hero protecting user rights. The forum community was the best; Kindest, smartest, and most helpful. Now, STEAM is the company that is protecting my user rights and has a much better community while GOG's user base became toxic like its practices.

And GOG chose this.
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No business founded on an ideology sticks with that ideology indefinitely. Not when there is money to be made abandoning that ideology.
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Engerek01: I have 635 games on my GOG library.
When I stopped buying from GOG a few years ago, I had about 70 games on STEAM. Now I "own" 450 there. Haven't bought a single thing from GOG since and hadn't used the forums for almost 2 years. And I see that not only things haven't improved, but they have gotten a lot worse.

It is also surprising to see how the tables have turned. Years ago STEAM was the evil company with a toxic community while GOG was the hero protecting user rights. The forum community was the best; Kindest, smartest, and most helpful. Now, STEAM is the company that is protecting my user rights and has a much better community while GOG's user base became toxic like its practices.

And GOG chose this.
Protecting user rights and community is not toxic anymore? How much are they paying you to say this lie? haha
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Engerek01: I have 635 games on my GOG library.
When I stopped buying from GOG a few years ago, I had about 70 games on STEAM. Now I "own" 450 there. Haven't bought a single thing from GOG since and hadn't used the forums for almost 2 years. And I see that not only things haven't improved, but they have gotten a lot worse.

It is also surprising to see how the tables have turned. Years ago STEAM was the evil company with a toxic community while GOG was the hero protecting user rights. The forum community was the best; Kindest, smartest, and most helpful. Now, STEAM is the company that is protecting my user rights and has a much better community while GOG's user base became toxic like its practices.

And GOG chose this.
Boycotting GOG and not Steam is some big time hypocrisy, as if Steam has any moral high ground or even remotely cares about your rights, and the less said about Steam's brainwashed, white knighting, actually toxic fans the better. You're completely delusional if you think steam are the good guys.
Post edited March 29, 2022 by ReynardFox
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kaileeena: Remove from the list please.

Just my 2 cents, you need to check and stick to a certain behavior and ideology. I remember few month ago, you were arguing that you are in no role to control why people are boycotting and you are just maintaining a list but once others opinions didn't work for you, suddenly you became an owner for the thread, decided to open for voting, decided when the vote start and ends and what is winning criteria
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imho just ignore the vote, like it never happened
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Syphon72: Protecting user rights and community is not toxic anymore? How much are they paying you to say this lie? haha
Didn't you read my post? It is the other way around. I am paying them for this safety. And GOG is the other way around. People like you prove that on a daily bases, as you just did. And you probably don't even notice that.
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ReynardFox: Boycotting GOG and not Steam is some big time hypocrisy, as if Steam has any moral high ground or even remotely cares about your rights, and the less said about Steam's brainwashed, white knighting, actually toxic fans the better. You're completely delusional if you think steam are the good guys.
What you claim to be hypocrisy, I see as exercising my rights as an educated customer. In recent years, STEAM solved ALL my problems, while GOG's policy is "It's what it is now, get used to it or get out". GOG literally said that to me.

STEAM also fought on multiple platforms against big companies like EA and Ubisoft to protect its customers. EA pulled some of their games first, but they yield eventually. That was a huge win for the players. What's the last time GOG did something like that?

Steam never lied to me. GOG did. Steam never promised something and get back. GOG does it, well, all the time. Steam never provided support for something and pulled it back. GOG, again, does this all the time.

And on Steam forums. Well, you guys are the proof of what I said. 2 posts in and already being downvoted, attacked, insulted, labeled. Let me tell you, GOG toxic base hasn't lost its touch.

I miss the old GOG userbase, but I see almost all of them have left. The kind, elegant, helpful sophisticated people. All gone. And you guys are all that remains. How sad.

And, again, GOG chose this.
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zerodin: No business founded on an ideology sticks with that ideology indefinitely. Not when there is money to be made abandoning that ideology.
Which is why customers that care about that ideology should do everything in their power to make it so that abandoning it will be the bad financial decision. Hence the boycott.

I find it interesting that so many people keep saying variations of: "Well, they're a business, not an ethical movement. Of course they are going to abandon that ethical position, if it is profitable for them to do so." For a start, there is an assumption there (which I don't agree with): that abandoning the core values GOG was built on will be the more profitable path. The solution is for the customers to take action to make that choice the non-profitable choice.

It's a shame that so many consumers assume they are powerless.
Post edited March 29, 2022 by Time4Tea
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For some customers the DRM thing was never a big deal. I was initially attracted to GOG, because they used to primarily sell old DOS games.
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zerodin: For some customers the DRM thing was never a big deal. I was initially attracted to GOG, because they used to primarily sell old DOS games.
Ok, that's fair enough. But, most of those games are available on Steam now, so what is keeping you shopping at GOG? The customer service?

*honk* :o)
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La plupart des anciens jeux DOS auquels je jouent ne sont pas disponible sur steam actuelement.

Ce que vous dites est infondé.
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Coinky: La plupart des anciens jeux DOS auquels je jouent ne sont pas disponible sur steam actuelement.

Ce que vous dites est infondé.
Ok. I don't use Steam, so I wouldn't really know, but I had the impression many of them were on there. So, it seems GOG still has some older games that Steam doesn't.
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zerodin: No business founded on an ideology sticks with that ideology indefinitely. Not when there is money to be made abandoning that ideology.
Imo, that is no excuse. If you spent years building your reputation around that ideology and then change it you will loose most of the customers you spent your time and resources all those years and which were attracted to that ideology. In the end the abandonment of that ideology may cause you more harm than good. It's like, Apple choosing to ditch all of their technology and just start using Android, or Windows.

Only time will tell of course and I am very curious to see their future financial reports.

As for the vote, I know it's closed, but my vote would go for B.
Post edited March 30, 2022 by Illyrac
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ReynardFox: Boycotting GOG and not Steam is some big time hypocrisy, as if Steam has any moral high ground or even remotely cares about your rights, and the less said about Steam's brainwashed, white knighting, actually toxic fans the better. You're completely delusional if you think steam are the good guys.
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Engerek01: What you claim to be hypocrisy, I see as exercising my rights as an educated customer. In recent years, STEAM solved ALL my problems, while GOG's policy is "It's what it is now, get used to it or get out". GOG literally said that to me.

STEAM also fought on multiple platforms against big companies like EA and Ubisoft to protect its customers. EA pulled some of their games first, but they yield eventually. That was a huge win for the players. What's the last time GOG did something like that?

Steam never lied to me. GOG did. Steam never promised something and get back. GOG does it, well, all the time. Steam never provided support for something and pulled it back. GOG, again, does this all the time.

And on Steam forums. Well, you guys are the proof of what I said. 2 posts in and already being downvoted, attacked, insulted, labeled. Let me tell you, GOG toxic base hasn't lost its touch.

I miss the old GOG userbase, but I see almost all of them have left. The kind, elegant, helpful sophisticated people. All gone. And you guys are all that remains. How sad.

And, again, GOG chose this.
I totally agree, I miss the old community but as you said most have left or stopped being active like me, I used to have nice discussions on these forums without finger pointing, name calling and fanbase bias. For me, its totally GOG fault and choice to lose such a community that were really the platform biggest advocates. Anyhow I am out of this thread as it too became a biased distorted version of what it started
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google searched "why is gog shadowbanning me" and what is "-1 replies" in my OP negative maastah K-9 states! since I too was shadowbanned! haven't been on the forums for months! haven't done anything signufiacant! play my games offline and get on occaiosnally when I want to post something so I post. a completely harmless comment concerining lumberjack's Dynasty' "this is a game about being a lumberjack baking pies to save up to pay uncle's loan is not a manly thing to do." that is not a harmful statement! and the ultra-hyper sensitive noobs on here now whine to the point gog is shadowblocking my post(with some other very game stopper complaints) about a game I bought(full price!) here on GOG. maybe the original crowd was cool but they lost another cow to milk! I have been a CUSTOMER for 10 years! damnit! maybe Steam has better potential. even before the 20s , akin 2020s that is... just a couple years ago I got real answers to questions. now I get troll post replies in my OPs and that has been going on for maybe the last year or two, namly the last few months!!! why? because the turnover is degenerates. GOG doesn't respect REAL people they will loose I don't care if a 10000 people say otherwise. They best look down to the dungeon keep ocasionally instead of always looking to the clouds for there prosperity! The cobblestones may need tending! One fine day, may make their tower fall and don't be surprised if it does!
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Lone_Scout: You have quite a point but, as a gamer that wants to buy and play games, I'll still stay with "the lesser evil" aka GOG...

I might anyway try to purchase more things on itch.io instead of here, but I won't boycott what currently is the best option for a store, despite its downfall.

Good riddance! And let's wish at least some of your claims are listened.
you will if you are treated like a dog!
any store!
Post edited March 31, 2022 by neosapian