rjbuffchix

"If the other issues aren't invalidated, then why are we being advised to make our own "spinoff" topics and please whatever we do just get them out of this one promptly because it's inconvenient?"

Time has iterated on the problems of a bait 'n' switch, the early boycotters who've signed on (since last year) have supported the points outlined on 1st thread post before, it's contentious for us to assume to speak for them with extra reasons they aren't aware/supportive of. It's having integrity and trust on those that've pledged to boycott.

Not all/majority of the 100+ have voiced support for adding new reasons/altering boycott points. It's prudent to gain their views on this matter.
Reason against B also reiterates the dilution of the existing points this boycott has stood for in the beginning, very likely to denigrate this thread as a grief corner for every possible nuance of complaint disgruntled gog users/customers can think of. Devaluing our focus points and increasing the likelihood/chances for gog not to take us seriously.
On another note, this isn't mine or your thread discussion. I respect Time's decision for a consensus of the boycotters before the push for a myriad of additionals not all have voiced support or have signed up to in the first place.

lumengloriosum

"Except it has?"

Thank you thread facilitator lumengloriosum for altering the first post on the reasons why we've boycotted.

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This post is to raise awareness of the current goings-on, I've no time to argue/fight against those who've made up their minds. Only a measure of interest on what the 100+ would decide if this is to stay as a focussed thread of the original points we've signed up for.

OR likely bloated with almost as many points as there are boycotters/Be vague enough as to appease all boycotters, thus be less understood.

GOG is likely to dismiss it as a complaints corner for unhappy customers (if it hasn't already) voicing all the reasons they can think up on against GOG.
This is why I'm on Option A.

TBH I have no option. I stopped my boycott briefly due to events, but since the latest “big news of changes to the site” was nothing more than some sort options, I am back on it again. Nothing has been done, and apparently nothing ever will be done to fix any of the issues or requests. I am not rejoins the thread however as it has been spammed to death by various groups, and I don’t think GOG even read these forums anymore, moved to the “cool” platform. So all that remains is to stop buying here. Maybe if a decent company brought GOG things might improve.

I agree. Option B would be a far bigger 'switch' than A, in my opinion. If someone not involved in the boycott were to read the first post, would they get the impression that the boycott is focused on certain specific issues, or that it is general? I think the former is far more likely.

Imo, the issue at stake isn't just the question of what the thread should be, but what those who have already signed believed they were signing up for.

I don't think it is fair for you to offer a vote and then try to "game" the outcome in multiple comments afterward by offering these opinions. In any case, those who signed up are not being invalidated. They don't have to "change" their reasoning for boycotting. Essentially nothing changes for them. If Person A is boycotting due to censorship+DRM, and now Person B is boycotting due to some other reason, Person A is still boycotting due to censorship+DRM. For that matter, what about the issue of people who don't neatly fit all criteria of the list in your OP? If I am boycotting due to DRM, and don't really take the same type of offense that other people did at GOG's non-release of Devotion, then am I nonetheless included in their ranks, simply because I am on the list? That doesn't make sense.

I have pointed out the fringe cases where the issue in one person's boycott could possibly be contradicted by another, but these are unlikely to materialize and thus it is mainly hypothetical discussion. For example, if Person A is against "censorship" but Person B wants adult games off of GOG's storefront (or does this "censorship" not count, only your arbitrarily defined area of censorship...I digress). But is there even one, maybe two at most, on the boycott list who are boycotting due to adult games? The other counterexample I have offered is even more out there: someone boycotting due to GOG not having enough DRM. While that would counter other boycotters, it is unlikely to happen let alone in great numbers where it would sway that direction. Therefore nothing to worry about.

I was going to ask additional food for thought questions but in the interest of you not offering more opinions that might sway people on the vote that you introduced, I will leave them for now.

Look's like it could be a case of, you will boycott for my reasons or GTFO...

OP is probably acting this why for reason.

Oh, why working in mines for nothing?))) And not totalitarian overlord) Apart from this, I agree with you)

And what will you tell if Russia don't start this operation, but in few days Ukraine attack LPR and DPR, attack their citizens. Also Russia is guilty?)
Yes, I have elected him. Because other canditates much worse and some of them are traitors, who dance after USA's tune. We have already seen what happens to our country when government and President dance after USA's tune. And President dance in the literal sense)

what will your President do with any country if that country has bio-weapon which can kill your citizens?
Firstly, Victoria Nuland have a speech at Senate, and there is a video proof where she tell "“uh, Ukraine has, uh, biological research facilities.” Any hope to depict such “facilities” as benign or banal was immediately destroyed by the warning she quickly added: “we are now in fact quite concerned that Russian troops, Russian forces, may be seeking to, uh, gain control of [those labs], so we are working with the Ukrainiahhhns [sic] on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach”

And then Washington Post tell that it's Russian disinformation and fake. But answer my question please.
If they admit that there are biological research facilities in Ukraine and they try to do anything to prevent research materials from falling into the Russian hands, ok. But will you prevent these materials from falling if you do something good? For example, cancer cure or covid cure. I don't think so. So that, they do there something bad. For example, biological weapon. It's logical, isn't it?)

And then they said "Vladimir Putin could unleash biological weapon from seized Ukraine lab, experts fear" Mirror
But they said earlier that it's a fake) Where is a truth?)

Can you please quit with the political discussion? It's against the GOG forum CoC and it's not on-topic for this thread. I will ask a moderator to remove your posts. Sorry, but this isn't the place for it.

This boycott was based around a political issue though.



16:48

Plus talking about that here is like screaming into the void.



18:05

The boycott was responding to a decision that GOG made, which was linked to politics. I am ok with people voicing their opinions either way about GOG's decision to stop doing business in Russia, because that relates to the site. But I don't want to see the thread derailed any further by getting into a general political discussion, which is off-topic and against GOG's CoC. The user above made 3 posts back-to-back which were purely about politics and not related to GOG.

And that isn't double standards - there is a distinction between discussing politics in general and discussing
decisions GOG has made that relate to wider political issues. (although, I admit it's a thin distinction and GOG themselves have been finding it hard to walk that fine line, with them locking their own threads ...)

That is a lie. I even specifically quoted to make sure no mistakes were presented.

And ours was responding to a decision that GOG made, which was also linked to politics. And those who wish to express this, even not deciding to be bogged down into political discussion, aren't welcome on your petition.

Hypocrisy.

Well, some good news folks! GOG have listened to your issues, problems, requests, and general boycot and are co to using to progress with going back to their core values. Yes that’s right, following on from dropping support, and adding some rearranging facilities as an “improvement”, we are now treated to some online only games!
https://www.gog.com/game/necroland_undead_corps

Woohoo!! Things just continue to get “better” here!