Yawn.

In my view, a change of position is precisely what is being requested by those who are advocating for option B, since the first post makes it very clear that this boycott is supposed to be focused on those specific issues. So, frankly, your argument can be reflected straight back on you, the other way.

This is also why we are holding a vote - to gauge the opinion of those who have signed up on the list as to what the boycott is supposed to be. All of the 113 people on the list are being allowed to voice their opinion and they are being given 2 weeks to do so (assuming they care enough and are still around). In other words, I am doing exactly what you are requesting in your first sentence - asking those 113 people for their opinion, in a fair and democratic way. Right now, the vote is going against the option I would personally prefer, and I will accept the outcome, if that is the way it goes.

I don't think there is need to change the title, Russians and their sympathizers have gone silent.

And nobody is forcing you to update their names (or anyone's name) to the first post. If they don't like that they are not included then they can go and make their own thread.

Epic games has also shut Russia down, and Sony has closed games and hardware too. Payments are not possible on Steam for them. Even Pokemon has done it.

Thinking about it, I'm going to vote for option A (couldn't make my mind up before).

What about all the people who voiced their boycott now lost in this thread but didn't end up on the list?



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I vote for point B. As they say - the buyer is always right. And the reasons may be different.

Amazed at the latest GOG announcement. Good, bad, whatever. I'm just amazed it even discusses DRM and how they define it. I might not agree with them on their definition 100% but if they're at least attempting to let customers know where they stand I think that's a solid step.

I never played the new Hitman so I don't know all the issues with certain single player features not being available but that's kind of on the devs. Same with the multi-player aspect. I don't like a game being tied to servers which can be shut down but if that's the dev's choice....I guess I won't support them. I don't think I can reasonably ask GOG to demand changes to functioning code anymore than I can demand additional options menues or skins in a game that wasn't built with that.

I think this is generally a good thing even if it's not all of what I wanted and it's nice to know someone finally paid attention to it being an issue customers care about. I'm not sure how others feel but I'm trying to decide how to reward GOG for at least defining what they count as DRM while still encouraging them to go further.

I realize Devotion is probably never getting a release here but I'd also love to hear about that situation from them. I'm told "many gamers" had opinions about it.

Edit: had to correct the auto-correct

Might be prudent to include a link. I presume you mean this:
News update
Forum thread

GOG is aware that there's some unrest in the forums, but all they have done to solve it has been at a PR level. I don't see any commitment to change behind that announcement.

The three points they presented are a much lower standard of "DRM-free" than any of the complainers in this thread has. By defining "DRM-free" in such a weak way, more DRM is going to slip into the platform.

What a letdown.

Option 'B'.

As it should have been from the beginning.

How about we vote on voting you out of this thread? Would you be fine with that? Maybe you should realise that what you do just ruins the purpose of having any such thread in the first place.

Okay, I'm not into the boycott thing (I either peruse a shop or don't, I don't do pickets). But let's just say this :

A boycott is a pressure to achieve a goal. The goal has to be predefined, or the boycott means nothing. Listen, you can have 40 people boycotting GOG because it sells too many DRM-ed games, and 40 people boycotting GOG because it sells too few DRM-ed games. You can't take these numbers and go "HEY GOG, WE'RE BOYCOTTING YOU AND WE'RE 80 PEOPLE, SO DO AS WE SAY". It means nothing.

Your B option completely empties your boycott of any point. You'll end up telling GOG that 300 people boycott it because it supports Ukraine too much and/or not enough, that it is too progressive and/or too conservative and that it focuses too much on newer/older games. What is GOG meant to do with that ? It's not pressure if it pulls in various undefined directions, and even less if it's pulled in opposite directions. Which this option opens to.

Essentially, it's like elections where the population votes by casting nondescript ballots with no particular names on it. Unless you keep track of the reasons, and number the boycotts by categories, but then, it's one thread about multiple, separate, independent or competing boycotts.

There's just too many jokes to be made with that.

"What is GOG meant to do with that" is simple: they could take actions and make their best effort to solve every issue that every boycotter has.

There is nothing wrong with having a multi-pronged boycott with multiple simultaneous goals for problems to be solved, with all of such problems that we expect to be fixed, not just one or two only.

Your example doesn't make sense. No one is calling for GOG to add more DRM'ed games.

So your wording of "opposite directions" doesn't make sense either, since the multitude of boycott goals, although different, do not directly contradict each other.

Hence there would be nothing to stop GOG from attempting to fix all of them at the same time, if GOG cared enough to do so.

There is not much reason to buy here.
The games are still can be considered drm-ed, as they can just remove the games from your accounts or ban your account outright, then the backed up installers is nothing more than piracy.
When will be the next twitter outrage to ban a group of people you are part of ? who knows but it can happen

Just curious: do you still buy here?

What stores do you buy from?