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Syphon72: Intel and AMD are on the list. We better start pulling out our CPU guys. haha
Some companies are harder to boycott than others. One cannot easily boycott all CPU manufacturers.

However, in strong contrast, one can very easily boycott GOG.

So your conflation there, of GOG with CPU makers, falls quite flat IMO.
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How about trying to boycott STEAM???
As long as their bloody sniffing tool (which btw has the same security issues as Galaxy) isn t
mandatory anymore?

I do this, ever since i ran into "SCREW YOU WE HAVE YOUR MONEY" with my physical copy
of Deus Ex HR, the only game i ever gave STEAM and its DRM a chance.

Never again, as long as i am forced to use their Launcher.
And yes in over 10 years Steam didn t see a single cent from me.

I prefer GoG over mandatory Launchers ANY day. Yes that counts for ALL platforms that force you
to use DRM ridden Launchers. NO Galaxy is not DRM. Every purchase i made i test for full
standalone functionality and till this day, no game i ever bought flinched for not being online, or
Galaxy not being started INCLUDING shutting down communication service.

But hey... thats just me, aye? Others claim DRM where no DRM is in sight at all.
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rjbuffchix: No, it isn't hard! This is exactly what I was referring to with my last comment, which promptly got buried under more of this political signaling garbage on all sides.

Here are two examples:

1. "I am boycotting GOG because GOG is blocking Russian/Belorussian purchases."

2. "I am boycotting GOG because GOG is blocking Russian/Belorussian purchases, now please listen to my thesis statement/doctorate about what I think of Putin, various countries, who is at fault right now, and what I learned in history class."

See the difference? The second example is obviously not what we need here while the first is okay (and could probably even add a very brief, concise explanation within the same sentence, stopping there).
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GreasyDogMeat: Both of your examples are political statements. One is just in more detail. People are going to be pissed about gas prices, let alone what GOG is doing to the Russians and what the Ukrainians are experiencing and you want to lecture people about not being too political here? While I don't have a problem not going in to detail, I sure as HELL am not going to give either country's members flak for being vocal about the situation.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe the first of my hypothetical examples to be in violation of CoC as it pertains to political statements. Hence my attempt at offering contrast.

Do I personally have a problem with people being vocal? No, though I am not encouraging anyone to break CoC. I am just saying if people are going to be vocal about the political details no matter what, I'd rather they do so in other topics...like the ones that keep getting locked...instead of jeopardizing this topic.

Obviously a GOG Boycott topic pales in comparison to real world problems; these, or others. Lest you think I'm uncaring, I did try to comment in the original thread posted but it got locked as I attempted to post, lol.
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Syphon72: Intel and AMD are on the list. We better start pulling out our CPU guys. haha
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Some companies are harder to boycott than others. One cannot easily boycott all CPU manufacturers.

However, in strong contrast, one can very easily boycott GOG.

So your conflation there, of GOG with CPU makers, falls quite flat IMO.
We can still boycott CPU makers. It would just affect our life more than boycotting GOG. Also, I wasn't really being serious about the CPU boycott. There are plenty of other companies on the list that could be boycotted easily. Like Nike. IKEA, Reddit, Apple.

Question? Are you saying CPU makers should get a free pass? Since it's harder to boycott them?
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So it's political if we boycott GOG because it won't sell games to an entire country,
but it's not political if people boycott GOG because it won't release a game with a political message, which people
only care about because they hate/fear China. Interesting.
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heiselong: So it's political if we boycott GOG because it won't sell games to an entire country,
but it's not political if people boycott GOG because it won't release a game with a political message, which people
only care about because they hate/fear China. Interesting.
Your thinking too much! haha
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Some companies are harder to boycott than others. One cannot easily boycott all CPU manufacturers.

However, in strong contrast, one can very easily boycott GOG.

So your conflation there, of GOG with CPU makers, falls quite flat IMO.
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Syphon72: We can still boycott CPU makers. It would just affect our life more than boycotting GOG. Also, I wasn't really being serious about the CPU boycott. There are plenty of other companies on the list that could be boycotted easily. Like Nike. IKEA, Reddit, Apple.

Question? Are you saying CPU makers should get a free pass? Since it's harder to boycott them?
I've been boycotting AMD since they were founded.
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rjbuffchix: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe the first of my hypothetical examples to be in violation of CoC as it pertains to political statements. Hence my attempt at offering contrast.

Do I personally have a problem with people being vocal? No, though I am not encouraging anyone to break CoC. I am just saying if people are going to be vocal about the political details no matter what, I'd rather they do so in other topics...like the ones that keep getting locked...instead of jeopardizing this topic.

Obviously a GOG Boycott topic pales in comparison to real world problems; these, or others. Lest you think I'm uncaring, I did try to comment in the original thread posted but it got locked as I attempted to post, lol.
Oh believe me, if they want to count it as violating their CoC (which they can cram up their ass) they will. Their CoC has been vague and hypocritically enforced for years.

Other than that, fair enough.
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heiselong: So it's political if we boycott GOG because it won't sell games to an entire country,
but it's not political if people boycott GOG because it won't release a game with a political message, which people
only care about because they hate/fear China. Interesting.
Both are complaining about games not being available so there's no hypocrisy.



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It seems that everything is already said and discussed in this thread. Nonetheless, I want to state that I, too, am extremely saddened and disappointed by GOG’s choice to ban Russian and Belarusian gamers. I despise war and weapons in every form and for whatever reason. Even guns in games give me the creeps … But: People living in Russia or Belarus are obviously not automatically warmongers! And even if they believe this war has a just cause – are they not part of a (much too big) group of people who think the same when their own country goes to war?
I would have wished that GOG remained a place where players from all over the world could meet and discuss good games (and bad ones ;) , too) and of course, buy them. As I’ve already written to GOG’s support team this afternoon: Please remove this ban and return to being my beloved go-to-place for buying games!
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The question is: Will they listen to 'many messages from gamers'?
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Russia's media watchdog blocks Facebook - Putin makes war reporting a de facto punishable offense

Russia's media watchdog blocks Facebook - in retaliation for blocking Russian Facebook pages.
Meanwhile, Vladimir Putin has signed an amendment to the law that de facto criminalizes reporting on the war in Ukraine from Russian soil.
The first media outlets have already reacted.

After Facebook, the short message service Twitter is now also blocked in Russia. Information from Russia's media watchdog Roskomnadzor indicates that Twitter can no longer be accessed on the territory of the giant empire, the Interfax agency reported Friday. Users of Twitter in Moscow confirmed that the network stopped working on cell phones. Roskomnadzor had already slowed down Twitter significantly before, which is why it had been difficult to watch videos there, for example. Previously, Facebook had been blocked on Friday.

The U.S. company had previously been fined several times for failing to delete information critical of the Kremlin after being ordered to do so by the authorities in Moscow. Facebook criticized the shutdown in Russia. Millions of people would be cut off from reliable information, Facebook manager Nich Cegg said on Twitter. They would also be deprived of the opportunity to contact their families and friends via the social network.

A week ago, Roskomnadzor had announced Facebook's slowdown. In recent days, Facebook had restricted access to the pages of Russian military TV channel Zvezda, state news agency Ria Novosti and state TV channel RT, among others, he said.

Russian authorities have massively tightened their crackdown on activists and critical voices in the media since the start of Russia's war of aggression in Ukraine. Russian media had been instructed after the invasion of Ukraine to use only official information from the Russian authorities for their reporting. The country's main independent media outlets have since been banned.

President Vladimir Putin, meanwhile, signed several laws further restricting free speech in Russia - including an amendment Russia's parliament had voted for earlier in the evening. It imposes drastic penalties for spreading alleged misinformation in the media about Russia's armed forces.

There are heavy fines and imprisonment. For example, anyone who spreads "false information" about Russian forces currently fighting in the war in Ukraine could be punished with up to 15 years in prison. Under another law, people who publicly "denigrate" the Russian army can also be held responsible.

The laws also apply to foreigners. It is feared that this will severely restrict the reporting of remaining independent media in Russia. The Russian authorities had already blocked several critical stations in recent days. The well-known radio station Ekho Moskvy announced its closure. The British broadcaster BBC also no longer reports from Russia.

According to the text of the law, punishable offenses include spreading allegedly false information about Russian soldiers, discrediting the armed forces and calling for sanctions against Russia.

Media outlets in Russia have already been banned since last week from using terms such as "attack," "invasion" and "declaration of war" in their coverage of the war on Ukraine. Moscow calls the war a military "special operation."

According to the Kremlin, Putin also signed into law a law listing penalties for those who call for sanctions that restrict the rights of Russian citizens. Hundreds of people and numerous companies are already subject to sanctions by the West because of Russia's attack on Ukraine.

According to the new law, the initiators of these punitive measures will be banned from entering Russia, for example. Their financial and other assets will be seized. And they will be banned from doing business in Russia. (dpa/AFP/ank)
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ValentB: Let's wait and see how you gonna support russia when China will use the same tactics towards Taiwan and start bombing peaceful cities.
You mean as USA bombed Japanese cities in WW2 or Japan Imperial airforce bombed chinese cities sometime earlier? Oh, sorry, I forgot - US & Japan are best friends now :)
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BreOl72: Russia's media watchdog blocks Facebook - Putin makes war reporting a de facto punishable offense

Russia's media watchdog blocks Facebook - in retaliation for blocking Russian Facebook pages.
So Russia is catching up to what we had to put up with for the past several years?

Nick clegg
No one should be using facebook for that and Clegg is an ex deputy prime minister which makes a joke of the USA 1st amendment.



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As reward for GOG standing up to dictatorships (proving that they can do it if the dictator in question hits close enough home). I have broken my over year long boycott of GOG.

Went and bought Moonstone: A Hard Days Knight

Lots of tankies and russkies seem to be taking over this thread. Maybe I should ask my name to be removed from the list, so that I don't get grouped with that lot...