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Posted February 21, 2014
The DRM-Free Revolution Continues with Big Pre-Orders and Launch Day Releases!

Good news! GOG.com is going to bring you more fantastic launch day releases, preorders, and other exciting new content from some of our favorite developers. We've lined up 3 big titles that we will be bringing to GOG.com in the next couple of months for sale or preorder that we think will be hits with all of our gamers; and we have more equally exciting games coming up soon.

If you've been a member of the site for a long time, you may recall that when we launched sales of The Witcher 2 on GOG.com, we had to add in regional pricing. The game cost different amounts in in the US, the UK, the European Union, and Australia. We're doing something like that once again in order to bring you new titles from fantastic bigger studios. Since we don't accept currencies other than USD on GOG.com right now, we'll be charging the equivalent of the local price in USD for these titles. We wish that we could offer these games at flat prices everywhere in the world, but the decision on pricing is always in our partners' hands, and regional pricing is becoming the standard around the globe. We're doing this because we believe that there's no better way to accomplish our overall goals for DRM-Free gaming and GOG.com. We need more games, devs, and publishers on board to make DRM-Free gaming something that's standard for all of the gaming world!

That brings with it more good news, though! As mentioned, we have three games we're launching soon with regional pricing--two RPGs and a strategy game--and while we can't tell you what they are yet because breaking an NDA has more severe penalties than just getting a noogie, we're confident that you'll be as excited about these games as we are. For a limited time, we will be offering anyone who pre-orders or buys one of them a free game from a selection as a gift from GOG.com, just like we did for The Witcher 2.

If you have any questions, hit us up in the comments below and we'll be happy to answer (to the best of our ability).

EDIT: Since we've answered a lot of the common questions already here (and lest you think that we've ignored you), it may be handy for you to check out the forum thread about this and search for staff answers by clicking this link here. (hat tip to user Eli who reminded us that the feature even exists. :)
Posted February 21, 2014
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Pyron originally said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzIYJ15CMbk

GOG.com "Regional Rip-off - Why Can't Gaming be Fair?"

Here's why:

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TheEnigmaticT: it wouldn't be very fair of Larian to give our EU and UK users a better value for the game if they buy it from GOG.com later as opposed to Steam now.
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TheEnigmaticT: we think is important to keep GOG.com growing
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TheEnigmaticT: Regional pricing is developer or publisher determined
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TheEnigmaticT: Either we provide them with regional pricing or we don't sell their game. Simple as that.
Didn't it feel good to kick that guy out of the bar, TET? Why did you let him back in? Just don't sell the games until prices are homogenized and you avoid all of this backlash and the peasants will rejoice again! Screw day 1 releases. I suggest people play some good old games while they wait for the new ones to be offered here, like we've done for so many years already. It's what I do and I've never complained about having to wait.

[edit: GOG's quoting got screwy, so I had to remove the quote for Pyron's post]
Post edited February 21, 2014 by vulchor
Posted February 21, 2014
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Drerhu: Since Gog´s beginning things has been mostly improved instead "ruin the experience of selling good drmfree games with a good price."

Like they said, we could have seen many other games but since companies want to respect the region price, they haven´t been in Gog until now.

So what´s better? To have more games in this catalogue, even if we have to respect some region price (a thing where Gog could even try to improve so we couldn´t be ripped off in the Euro zone) or avoid some bestselling games could come to this store, as we can see in Steam or Humble Store?

Yeah, those aren´t "good news" at all, but I want to thank Gog for not only hear us (and answer us), I want to thank them for keep improving the customr service, game catalogue so far, extra material like languages pack, flac ost, and still having better prices if we compare to other sellers.

I know some things are totally "unrelated" to the region price issue, but hell, instead only point "bad things" we should bring on to debate all the good things (because a "extra content-better options" thread haven´t so many comments like one of this kind)
Mostly improved? Apart from the much larger catalog, it's hard for me to think of anything that's been improved. I've been here since damn near the beginning and over all the trajectory isn't towards better, it's towards the status quo.

Considering how many games are available here, the games they're trying to get with this had better make System Shock 2 look like a shitty WoW knock off to be worth even contemplation.
Posted February 21, 2014
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Yep it will be Aussies that will be hit hardest but hell if i can get SILENT HILL SERIES INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO

Silent hill 1
Silent hill 2
Silent hill 3
Silent hill 4 THE ROOM (I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY WANT THIS GAME)
Silent Hil 5 (already got it on steam though it was the Shittiest silent Hill of all!)
Silent hill 6
SIlent hill 7
Silent Hill 8

I mean ALL THE SILENT HILL GAMES I will Forever be SO SO Happy GOG.com have you Guys considered selling Emulated games like emulated on PS one emulators and or N64 emulators! or even GB emulators! even Scummvm emulation is okay! for scumm type games Like Day of the Tentacle *HINT* *HINT* and Indiana Jones and th fate of atlantis TALKIE edition!
Post edited February 21, 2014 by fr33kSh0w2012
Posted February 21, 2014
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Darvond: I haven't heard of the former, and I'm fairly sure the makers of Stick of Truth wouldn't be bad enough to ask for regional pricing. Not to mention, we have loads of Ubi games without such silly pricing. Except Rayman Origins.

Probably neither of those.
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Drerhu: Stick of Truth has a BRUTAL regional pricing over steam (and other steam related sellers like GMG etc)

Game in Russia almost 16$, rest of the world 40$ (euro zone 40 euros ._.)

And they probably lock every gamed purchased in Russia, traded without regionlock and added in a non-russian account.

It´s developed by Obsidian..but it´s publisher..yeah, Ubisoft.

I would understand some new games would be restricted to this (and since GOG it´s the best drmfree option, I think I can handle that, while real old-games don´t follow the region pricing)

Funny thing, Sang Froid was drmfree here and hmble store; humble store no more..only drmfree version exists in Gog (and that could happen with other humble store games, since they are removing some drmfree links without clue or giving annoucement)
Oh. I have to wonder if Trey Parker and Matt Stone approved the pricing? Still, neither one of those titles screams 'Hide behind a NDA and laugh at consumers'.
Posted February 21, 2014
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TheEnigmaticT: If it ever comes up in the future where someone can't find the rights for, I dunno, Mauritania or Turkey, yeah. I can see us doing that.
And what of publishers who hold worldwide rights yet refuse to release in a specific region? Are you now going to let them do that for the sake of boosting your library count? It was the fact that (possibly former) GOG related staff went out of their way to track down a copy of a game and send it to me because its publisher had restricted it in Japan, that earned you my custom over these years. The day you then introduce restrictions, will be the day you lose that custom.

And what was that game? The Witcher.

The retail copy I was sent still sits proudly on my shelf as a symbol of what GOG stood for (one worldwide price with worldwide availability). Don't make me have to take that down off my shelf in disgust. Don't become another Steam.

GreenManGaming did that already and lost my custom. Not surprising as nearly half their catalogue is restricted here now. The same with GameFly, only in their case it's nearer three quarters of the catalogue that is restricted. So yes, I take the potential introduction of restrictions as a serious threat.
Post edited February 22, 2014 by bansama
Posted February 21, 2014
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TheEnigmaticT: For the first one, I dunno. We don't currently have any agreements in place where this is going to happen. If it ever comes up in the future where someone can't find the rights for, I dunno, Mauritania or Turkey, yeah. I can see us doing that.
And lo, the people who cried doom when GOG started accepting indie games, proclaiming it the first step in a transformation into A. N. Other Games Distributor, have been vindicated. All that's left is for you to start selling Steam, Origin or Uplay keys and the transformation will be complete.

(This is a tongue in cheek post, but I do want to point out that this is Bad with a capital B, and was one of the main criticism of basically every other digital distributor. To see the last bastion of region free PC gaming fall will be a sad sight to see).
Posted February 21, 2014
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trusteft: I agree with you, I just wanted to say, stop voting in office complete douches..
problem is all the major parties and some of the minor parties are "complete douches"
Posted February 21, 2014
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TheEnigmaticT: If it ever comes up in the future where someone can't find the rights for, I dunno, Mauritania or Turkey, yeah. I can see us doing that.
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bansama: And what of publishers who hold worldwide rights yet refuse to release in a specific region? Are you now going to let them do that for the sake of boosting your library count? It was the fact that (possibly former) GOG related staff went out of their way to track down a copy of a game and send it to me because its publisher had restricted it in Japan, that earned you my custom over these years. The day you then introduce restrictions, will be the day you lose that custom.
And what was that game? The Witcher.

The retail copy I was sent still sits proudly on my shelf as a symbol of what GOG stood for (one worldwide price with worldwide availability). Don't make have to take that down off my shelf in disgust. Don't become another Steam.

GreenManGaming did that already and lost my custom. Not surprising as nearly half their catalogue is restricted here now. The same with GameFly, only in their case it's nearer three quarters of the catalogue that is restricted. So yes, I take the potential introduction of restrictions as a serious threat.
Over here Gamelfy restricts 99.99997% of it's Catalog to ALL australians and to think one time I actually liked them when they were Direct2drive Long live D2D fuck you gamefly! and you Fucked up my elderscrolls 4 game giving me Borderlands DLC instead of the ones I PAYED FOR!
Post edited February 21, 2014 by fr33kSh0w2012
Posted February 21, 2014
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Niggles: So you think potential price gouging is fair?...cause thats whats going to likely happen....
I think there are upsides to this decision, like I said. Don't put words in my mouth.
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TheEnigmaticT: Don't sell their game. Simple as that.
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Darvond: That's my vote.
What's the actual difference between ignoring a game for being too much in your region and the game never coming to GOG at all? The same outcome is achieved both ways, however in the former situation some of us get a chance to buy it if we want.
Post edited February 21, 2014 by StingingVelvet
Posted February 21, 2014
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hedwards: Mostly improved? Apart from the much larger catalog, it's hard for me to think of anything that's been improved. I've been here since damn near the beginning and over all the trajectory isn't towards better, it's towards the status quo.
I worry about this a great deal too.
Posted February 21, 2014
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Gonchi: You know, I'd be interested to have Larian share their side too. Let's see if I can get their attention.
Yeah, hearing that Larian is supposed to be one of the publishers who pushed GOG into this made me a bit disappointed as well, because so far I always had the impression that they were very pro-GOG and customer friendly. And they already released Divinity 2 and Dragon Commander here DRM-free and without regional pricing, so why the sudden change?

I don't usually buy AAA games on release and for big money, but the thought of a promising game like Original Sin, complete with editor, coming to GOG DRM-free on Day One actually made me consider buying it just to support the idea behind it, to create another example like Witcher 2 that would prove to others that GOG's way is a viable and good one. Now I'm not so sure anymore, because of this bitter aftertaste that it will leave ... It will still send the message that games can be DRM-free on release, but along with the message that gamers will swallow regional pricing and that GOG can be convinced to give up its high principles. :/

And to me this is about more than just spending a couple of euros more. Franky, I find it very alarming that GOG won't promise a definite "no" to censored and region locked games, should publishers demand it.
Post edited February 21, 2014 by Leroux
Posted February 21, 2014
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StingingVelvet: What's the actual difference between ignoring a game for being too much in your region and the game never coming to GOG at all? The same outcome is achieved both ways, however in the former situation some of us get a chance to buy it if we want.
No. This is a huge can of worms that was opened up and it has the potential to effect any/every game in the catalog at some point down the line.
Posted February 21, 2014
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Niggles: So you think potential price gouging is fair?...cause thats whats going to likely happen....
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StingingVelvet: I think there are upsides to this decision, like I said. Don't put words in my mouth.
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Darvond: That's my vote.
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StingingVelvet: What's the actual difference between ignoring a game for being too much in your region and the game never coming to GOG at all? The same outcome is achieved both ways, however in the former situation some of us get a chance to buy it if we want.
This is my thought as well. Theoretically, both sides get what they want, AND those shafted by regional pricing get a free game.
Posted February 21, 2014
Off topic, but I can't seem to remember how to tell how many games I own on here, besides counting them. Pretty sure somewhere on this site lists the number. Or am I totally off?
Posted February 21, 2014
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vulchor: Off topic, but I can't seem to remember how to tell how many games I own on here, besides counting them. Pretty sure somewhere on this site lists the number. Or am I totally off?
You might be thinking of one of the Barefoot Essentials.
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