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Posted February 21, 2014
The DRM-Free Revolution Continues with Big Pre-Orders and Launch Day Releases!

Good news! GOG.com is going to bring you more fantastic launch day releases, preorders, and other exciting new content from some of our favorite developers. We've lined up 3 big titles that we will be bringing to GOG.com in the next couple of months for sale or preorder that we think will be hits with all of our gamers; and we have more equally exciting games coming up soon.

If you've been a member of the site for a long time, you may recall that when we launched sales of The Witcher 2 on GOG.com, we had to add in regional pricing. The game cost different amounts in in the US, the UK, the European Union, and Australia. We're doing something like that once again in order to bring you new titles from fantastic bigger studios. Since we don't accept currencies other than USD on GOG.com right now, we'll be charging the equivalent of the local price in USD for these titles. We wish that we could offer these games at flat prices everywhere in the world, but the decision on pricing is always in our partners' hands, and regional pricing is becoming the standard around the globe. We're doing this because we believe that there's no better way to accomplish our overall goals for DRM-Free gaming and GOG.com. We need more games, devs, and publishers on board to make DRM-Free gaming something that's standard for all of the gaming world!

That brings with it more good news, though! As mentioned, we have three games we're launching soon with regional pricing--two RPGs and a strategy game--and while we can't tell you what they are yet because breaking an NDA has more severe penalties than just getting a noogie, we're confident that you'll be as excited about these games as we are. For a limited time, we will be offering anyone who pre-orders or buys one of them a free game from a selection as a gift from GOG.com, just like we did for The Witcher 2.

If you have any questions, hit us up in the comments below and we'll be happy to answer (to the best of our ability).

EDIT: Since we've answered a lot of the common questions already here (and lest you think that we've ignored you), it may be handy for you to check out the forum thread about this and search for staff answers by clicking this link here. (hat tip to user Eli who reminded us that the feature even exists. :)
Posted February 21, 2014
Lol in the near future the only difference between gog and steam will be the drm and nothing else so we would all be pulling our hairs out when steam introduces another "Steam feature" called less drm or something like "working offline mode for single player games" or "direct launch game mode" and then what ?

can someone post some unicorn or pony videos we need some positive outlook of this happenings, i am just seeing the catalog bloat up as the only positive thing from this
Post edited February 21, 2014 by liquidsnakehpks
Posted February 21, 2014
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skeletonbow: It's not a minor issue in absolute terms. It's a minor issue relative to the issue of DRM-free IMHO. In other words I'm saying DRM-free trumps regional pricing related issues as being more important. I'm not saying either issue is not important, I'm saying that DRM-free is more important.

Having said that, I think your assessment that some countries that are outside of North America end up getting pricing that is higher is a reasonable assessment. When you have varying pricing on something by definition someone is going to pay more for it and someone is going to pay less. The cool thing in this case, is that both parties have the option of whether or not to pay, and both parties get DRM-free software as a result. ;o)

You make me consider another thought though too. Could this actually lower pricing in North America for some games compared to what the price would be if it was one single global pricing model? If so, *AWESOMESAUCE* with bacon and poutine on top! Having our game purchases in North America subsidized by the Euro would be great! Even better than the economic bailouts in Greece etc. ;o)

I think Canadians should get the best prices anywhere under the new model because we're just so damned friendly to people around the world. ;oP

(I'm having a bit of lighthearted fun with this for those who might take my comments above too seriously, all in good fun.)
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trusteft: hey douche, come and live in Greece with the salaries here (if you are lucky and not unemployed for 5 years as many (like myself are) and see how great this "bailout" was here.
This city alone has 57% unemployment rate of younger ages.
Fucking douche.
Yup and if your countries so bad it's people should of done something about it a long ago; bitching on a forum isn't going to change the state of Greeces affairs like affirmative action to force your collective will on governace to build jobs and industry creating GDP and hence a higher value of your currency and the pricing of video entertainment certainly isn't the underlying issue, nor cause.
Posted February 21, 2014
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TheEnigmaticT: But I guess it's worth asking: when we rolled out new games in 2012, a lot of people were really concerned. I saw a lot of comments like the ones here in this thread.
I'm kind of intoxicated right now, and my reasons to be awake now are for sure different from yours, but even I can see a big difference between the 2 circumstances.

a) GOG offers a certain service for old games, and now new ones will be available under the same conditions. That is good, provided the old ones don't get abandoned (which you proved you haven't).

b) GOG offers games at the price of sacrificing one of the self-installed "core values" and jeopardizing the pricing of the entire catalogue by leaving it up to the publisher's hands.

Look, I actually have quite some trust in you guys, you've earned it. I want to believe this sacrifice was worth it, which is why I said these "new and exciting releases" better be epic. I really want to believe they will be, because leaving the regional pricing on the hands of the publishers has never been a good thing by itself. I'll hold off the anger fits until then.

And I would like to know something about how this would be implemented, as someone traveling as much as I do can see many thing going wrong when the countries of account creation, credit card domiciliation and current location may not match.



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TheEnigmaticT: As a marketing person, I'll try not to take offense. :P
I think you should. I for one had come to expect rather straight forward comments from here, and instead what I see here are Rajoy levels of bullshit. The announcement today is bad news no matter how you spin it: you've compromised on a so-called core value in exchange of the chance to cash in a day 1 release. I have no grounds to say if this choice is good or bad, all I can say is I dislike it yet I wish you the best. But please don't piss on us and tell us it's raining.
Posted February 21, 2014
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MrLongPants: Poll?

Sorry i've been lax on GOG news for a while.
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Niggles: It was a poll.
It was a survey asking GOG members about different things
Thanks I gathered that lol

Was wondering what sort of bad things they were asking?
Were they pretty much asking people "Would you mind if we charged you more" etc?
Posted February 21, 2014
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TheEnigmaticT: If I defenestrate my bladder, we have bigger problems than who's below the window. Like why is my bladder outside my body and flying out a window? 0_o
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skeletonbow: LOL... I was meaning more "the contents" rather than the bladder itself... however...

hrm.. this gives me some ideas for an indie game... ;oP
It's idea's like this that makes me giggle about the indie scene.
http://boingboing.net/2014/02/13/goat-simulator-trailer-release.html
Posted February 21, 2014
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trusteft: hey douche, come and live in Greece with the salaries here (if you are lucky and not unemployed for 5 years as many (like myself are) and see how great this "bailout" was here.
This city alone has 57% unemployment rate of younger ages.
Fucking douche.
I certainly meant no disrespect to anyone in Greece or anywhere else, just some light hearted humour. I'm actually empathetic towards people in that situation in Greece or anywhere else in the world for that matter, and as for the games I would truly like to see everyone have a price that is fair globally and nobody get gouged.

Hopefully things turn for the better in the future.
Posted February 21, 2014
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Niggles: It was a poll.
It was a survey asking GOG members about different things
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MrLongPants: Thanks I gathered that lol

Was wondering what sort of bad things they were asking?
Were they pretty much asking people "Would you mind if we charged you more" etc?
If i recall things like episodic content, pre orders, alpha/beta access.....
Posted February 21, 2014
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trusteft: hey douche, come and live in Greece with the salaries here (if you are lucky and not unemployed for 5 years as many (like myself are) and see how great this "bailout" was here.
This city alone has 57% unemployment rate of younger ages.
Fucking douche.
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MaceyNeil: Yup and if your countries so bad it's people should of done something about it a long ago; bitching on a forum isn't going to change the state of Greeces affairs like affirmative action to force your collective will on governace to build jobs and industry creating GDP and hence a higher value of your currency and the pricing of video entertainment certainly isn't the underlying issue, nor cause.
You obviously have no idea about the recent history of Greece or the economics of the EU.
I am not bitching. Check to what I replied to.

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trusteft: hey douche, come and live in Greece with the salaries here (if you are lucky and not unemployed for 5 years as many (like myself are) and see how great this "bailout" was here.
This city alone has 57% unemployment rate of younger ages.
Fucking douche.
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skeletonbow: I certainly meant no disrespect to anyone in Greece or anywhere else, just some light hearted humour. I'm actually empathetic towards people in that situation in Greece or anywhere else in the world for that matter, and as for the games I would truly like to see everyone have a price that is fair globally and nobody get gouged.

Hopefully things turn for the better in the future.
ok man, case closed. Thanks.
Post edited February 21, 2014 by trusteft
Posted February 21, 2014
Since Gog´s beginning things has been mostly improved instead "ruin the experience of selling good drmfree games with a good price."

Like they said, we could have seen many other games but since companies want to respect the region price, they haven´t been in Gog until now.

So what´s better? To have more games in this catalogue, even if we have to respect some region price (a thing where Gog could even try to improve so we couldn´t be ripped off in the Euro zone) or avoid some bestselling games could come to this store, as we can see in Steam or Humble Store?

Yeah, those aren´t "good news" at all, but I want to thank Gog for not only hear us (and answer us), I want to thank them for keep improving the customr service, game catalogue so far, extra material like languages pack, flac ost, and still having better prices if we compare to other sellers.

I know some things are totally "unrelated" to the region price issue, but hell, instead only point "bad things" we should bring on to debate all the good things (because a "extra content-better options" thread haven´t so many comments like one of this kind)
Post edited February 21, 2014 by Drerhu
Posted February 21, 2014
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Piranjade: But I'll still get my two GOG codes as a kickstarter pledger, right? Although I pledged the same amount as people from other "regions"?
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TheEnigmaticT: Yep. That's an already agreed-upon transaction. I'm just talking about people who are buying games like that in the future.
Crap. I tend to kickstart and redeem, often on steam as it comes out first then buy another copy DRM free on GOG (as I believe in DRM free), I'm going to get screwed by this. Australia has a history of getting poor pricing compared to the US.
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Shaolin_sKunk: Compromise is a part of growing up. *shrug*
Says the American who gets the best pricing, as Americans always get the better pricing in these regional pricing deals.
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jamyskis: Something else people have missed: not only do we in Europe (and Australia) now get fucked over by the ridiculous regional pricing policies of publishers, but because GOG will keep billing in USD, we've still got the conversion charge applied by credit cards and PayPal to contend with.

So this is actually going to make GOG the most expensive place to buy the game from.

Halle-fucking-lujah!
Damn right, I've been noticing the conversion and exchange rate charges added to regional pricing I'm going to have to cut back on my buying.
Post edited February 21, 2014 by deonast
Posted February 21, 2014
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Niggles: It was a poll.
It was a survey asking GOG members about different things
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MrLongPants: Thanks I gathered that lol

Was wondering what sort of bad things they were asking?
Were they pretty much asking people "Would you mind if we charged you more" etc?
http://www.gog.com/news/new_gaming_options_survey_results
Posted February 21, 2014
This don't affect me in negative way, I don't really care. Beside it's too early to tell whether it is only for recent, upcoming releases or including the classics as well.
Posted February 21, 2014
I buy games almost exclusively from Steam - a little bit here on gog the last few years - BECAUSE I CAN PAY IN US DOLLARS.
Everywhere I've come across regionalization of some sort, the product becomes more expensive. WAY MORE EXPENSIVE.
Sorry for the caps but this is just awful news. If this becomes the standard on gog I will stop buying games on gog, simple.
Posted February 21, 2014
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liquidsnakehpks: Lol in the near future the only difference between gog and steam will be the drm and nothing else so we would all be pulling our hairs out when steam introduces another "Steam feature" called less drm or something like "working offline mode for single player games" or "direct launch game mode" and then what ?
I'm surprised they don't have the option for DRM-free installers on Steam yet, even as "bonus content".
Posted February 21, 2014
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liquidsnakehpks: Lol in the near future the only difference between gog and steam will be the drm and nothing else so we would all be pulling our hairs out when steam introduces another "Steam feature" called less drm or something like "working offline mode for single player games" or "direct launch game mode" and then what ?

can someone post some unicorn or pony videos we need some positive outlook of this happenings, i am just seeing the catalog bloat up as the only positive thing from this
yeah and in the case of steam pulling a 'no-drm' thing how much are any of us are gonna believe it'll even last (especially in light of the latest retroactive genlocking they've done).
Fact of the matter is they have established market monopoly dominance and garnered for themselves an almost omniastic power in gaming, they will only get more evil in the abuse of that position of power not less.
To get less by way of DRM softenning is 'a nothing', arguably the DRM is about as soft as you can effectively get (and i fucking hate steam, so i'm not saying that lightly [it after all is still DRM]).
To get less by way of going DRM-Free it to start offering their service only based on it's merits simplistic updating and community? How long until there is something that adequately competes with that? All that would need to happen is for a company like GOG to take an already interested and strong user base and make it more seamless when you want to advertise your up to gaming or in a multiplay for Steams stranglehold to become meaningless.
Suddenly bothering with steam would come down to preference not to update straight from the game company, which may be handled anyways by any distributer (Gog already has updating- though arguably not on a file matching autonomous basis atm), and of course solely price.
A price that game companies will look at and go i can sell for $5 more over here why do we care about steam for.
Suddenly Steam would become just anouther fish in highly saturated pond.

Thus I can honestly say not to hold your breath for either steam going truly DRM-free or Hell Freezing over.
Tell you what if steam goes down the DRM-Free mantra line (you know 100% take it or leave it) i'll install it on every single one of my computers [i have 5 currently and have plans to possibly add 10 $300 minecraft boxes].
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