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Rivdoric: ...Beside, my biggest concern about gog is : Will there be more recent AAA games in the future like old assassin's creed games up to black flag or unity, more recent Tomb Raider like Underworld, maybe other publishers like square enix for Just Cause 2 or Final Fantasy etc... etc.. ...
Hmm, that is very difficult to predict. I guess it might be.

And yes, I'm in a similar situation like you but nevertheless I have not the feeling I have to choose. I just prefer GOG in all possible ways and only choose Steam if I really, really want the game and cannot get it anywhere else.

That way I can live quite comfortably. I have ~130 games on GOG (and growing) and 1 game on Steam (maybe 2 in the future). But I don't think there is need to abandon Steam completely.

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JMich: Nope. Quite a few exes are the exact same game exes you get from GOG, down to the bit. There is a thread with a list of said games if you want a list.
For the AAA games on Steam it is however often if not always so. The OP seems to be quite interested in them.
Post edited November 05, 2015 by Trilarion
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Trilarion: For the AAA games on Steam it is however often if not always so. The OP seems to be quite interested in them.
Quite possible. Don't think I own that many AAA games on both GOG and Steam to be able to check it. My test was done with Carmageddon, and quite some time ago.
Why does it have to be either or? Why not use both?
I totally prefer to buy from GOG, but in a sense ownership of a game is all just an illusion, DRM or no DRM, unless you're an absolute computer wizard. It sucks, big time. The computer games industry is just a throwaway industry, making money out of its customers and then moving on. Many classics have already seen the light of day, but they will all be irrevocably lost at some point in the future.

You never really "own" a computer game anyway, owing to the ever-changing nature of computers and the onward march of technology. Windows 10 has just hit the (ever increasingly virtual) shelves and so has Direct X12. Goggers (and Steamers) will still be relying on their "clients" to optimise games for them. You can have a game in your GOG library which you've paid for, you can have transferred it to an external hard drive ; it is then "yours" as much as any physical copy of the game has ever really been "yours", but ultimately you will be forever dependent on your "client" to make the game work for you (again) in the latest operating system, unless you can do this kind of thing yourself - over and over again.

GOG is the best place to buy digital games from but imo you never really "own" a game anyway, and you never did right from the beginning. It's not like a book, which you can own throughout your whole life and pass on from one generation to the next, where the only "hardware" needed is the human hardware of the eyes, brain and soul. Unfortunately, computer games - works of art some of them - are dependent on a different kind of hardware.

DRM-free is the way to go but even a DRM-free game is never really a game you truly "own".
Well, here's my take. Buy whatever games you want on whatever platform you think it's more cheap, maybe take benefit of sales, or, go old-school, buy a game, play it, finish it, play it few more times, then pick your next game.

Today, as we're one click away from cheap games, it's hard to resist all bundles and price drops, but, a lot of games, at full price, especially on Steam, they are very overpriced. I mean, on many few years older games that are still available in physical stores, prices on Steam are even 10 times higher than what i would pay for an physical CD.

Now, other thing as a comparison is how the game is patched in order for you to play it. And this apply mostly to older games. With Steam, that patch it's pretty much nonexistent. You kinda get the game as it is on CD. You might need to use DOSBox or to modify the game in order to adjust it for your needs. GoG, on the other hand, patches the game for you. On older games, you have DOSBox included in the package, linked to the game executable, so you don't need to hassle with it. From my experience, any game i tried on GoG worked flawless. On Steam, on the other hand, i had encountered a bunch of games that were not running, i needed to either modify the game files or just to abandon trying playing those games. Now, lucky for me, i got a lot of games due to promotions and bundles, but, if i would have payed the full price, i would have been very mad.

Then, there are the extras. On many games, GoG offers all kind of cool stuff beside manuals. Wallpapers, artwork, soundtrack, books, maps, etc. Steam does not care about those. They even sell the soundtracks separately for many games, while on GoG you often find hem included in the original package, that is, most of the times, at the same price as it is on Steam.

Now, not to bash Steam too much, it's a popular platform. You find a lot of deals there or through bundles, that seem to prefer that platform. I personally don't have the problem with their DRM. Also, a lot of new small, indie titles, are promoted through Greenlight and released on Steam. There are some gems that were launched due to Steam and i'm grateful to them for that.

To cut story short, i would say don't bother too much. Use both platforms. If i would want to buy a game and i would have to pick between GoG and Steam, if they are roughly on the same price, i would pick GoG right now. But other than that, if i find good deals on Steam, i get them there, especially on newer games.
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Vythonaut: Play the games you bought on Steam and just don't buy anymore from there if you don't want to. But it will be quite difficult to do if you want to play most newer AAA games that will take so long to be released on GOG or may not arrive at all. It would be madness to re-purchase any game you have already on Steam, unless you have so much money that you don't know what to do with.

Personally I have 7-8 games on Steam that I know they won't arrive on GOG (well, Metro 2033 is here already so what do I know?) but I bought them cheap (like -90%, one of them was gifted to me too) enough to justify the defect, the DRM I mean. When they all come here, I'll buy them eventually so I can finally open the window for the Steam to go away! ;) But of course we are speaking of 7-8 games, not hundreds..

Whatever you do, have fun!
regarding AAA games: you are 100% right, lucky for me i dont buy AAA games, at least not the welknown 3d games like all those hot shooters with the latest graphics engines , so for me thats no problem, cause i dont use steam for that, so they wont get that much cash from me.

i have a few more games on steam, 99% are casual games the stuff i usually buy on drm free retail disc/dvd at 4 tot 8 euros a piece, most of the time i buy it online at buy 3 (retail) games get cheapest free (mostly at dutch bol dot com).

So steam doesnt have that much cash on me either, got me a nice hidden object game at 14 cents lastweek (developed by jetdogs) and it also ran on my win7 without the client so i was lucky, otherwise i would have uninstalled it cause it was only 14 cents.

i did buy xulima cause i had no idea if and when it would appear here on GOG but thats the only fullprice game i have on steam, cause once i got the gog version i moved the steam client needed version from the drive :D
As for casualgames i have 250plus retail cd/dvd (physical discs) and a few dvd that have 3 tot 8 small games on it.
Finally i have a few old games left (cd) like jagged alliance clasiics, fallout classic, baldurs, red alert, age of empires... etc etc, basically all the good old classic games from which most are now owned by EA, cause they buy up all they can get.
So i have contributed very well to the games world (the last 25 years) and also to the video worlds regarding movies (dvd) aswell since the start of the dvd movie.
Post edited November 05, 2015 by gamesfreak64
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mindblast: Well, here's my take. Buy whatever games you want on whatever platform you think it's more cheap, maybe take benefit of sales, or, go old-school, buy a game, play it, finish it, play it few more times, then pick your next game.

Today, as we're one click away from cheap games, it's hard to resist all bundles and price drops, but, a lot of games, at full price, especially on Steam, they are very overpriced. I mean, on many few years older games that are still available in physical stores, prices on Steam are even 10 times higher than what i would pay for an physical CD.

Now, other thing as a comparison is how the game is patched in order for you to play it. And this apply mostly to older games. With Steam, that patch it's pretty much nonexistent. You kinda get the game as it is on CD. You might need to use DOSBox or to modify the game in order to adjust it for your needs. GoG, on the other hand, patches the game for you. On older games, you have DOSBox included in the package, linked to the game executable, so you don't need to hassle with it. From my experience, any game i tried on GoG worked flawless. On Steam, on the other hand, i had encountered a bunch of games that were not running, i needed to either modify the game files or just to abandon trying playing those games. Now, lucky for me, i got a lot of games due to promotions and bundles, but, if i would have payed the full price, i would have been very mad.

Then, there are the extras. On many games, GoG offers all kind of cool stuff beside manuals. Wallpapers, artwork, soundtrack, books, maps, etc. Steam does not care about those. They even sell the soundtracks separately for many games, while on GoG you often find hem included in the original package, that is, most of the times, at the same price as it is on Steam.

Now, not to bash Steam too much, it's a popular platform. You find a lot of deals there or through bundles, that seem to prefer that platform. I personally don't have the problem with their DRM. Also, a lot of new small, indie titles, are promoted through Greenlight and released on Steam. There are some gems that were launched due to Steam and i'm grateful to them for that.

To cut story short, i would say don't bother too much. Use both platforms. If i would want to buy a game and i would have to pick between GoG and Steam, if they are roughly on the same price, i would pick GoG right now. But other than that, if i find good deals on Steam, i get them there, especially on newer games.
Regarding the extras you speak of (soundtracks, wallpapers etc.), these things are more than welcome as freebies but not as DLC in a so-called "Deluxe" (or whatever) version of a game. They are just fluff. Most people don't download them anyway and would rather not be treated like idiots. To charge extra for them is more than just a bit cheeky.

Steam is still an abomination in my eyes because when I started gaming there was nothing like it. You shouldn't have to be beholden to a "client" to play a game once you've paid good money for it. I buy games from Steam which I can't buy on GOG, and only if I think they'll never come to GOG or will take aeons to appear.
Also keep in mind many of those that tell you to completely abandon steam have very little or nothing vested in the platform (like just a handful of games). This isn't your case if you have somewhere between 100-200, that's a sizable library to just 'forget'. Plus there are simply too many games out there that do not launch here for a variety of reasons. It's not just AAA games either. Even indie games (Braid, Super Meat Boy, Binding of Issac, etc.) don't always show up here.
You effectively rent games from Steam, even when you buy them. This is a form of extortion. However, you never really "own" even a physical copy of a game, let alone a DRM-free GOG digital copy. That's fundamentally to do with the ever-changing nature of technology, which is nobody's fault - not even Steam's. Steam is also a very smart platform, much improved from what it used to be. Games are awesome, but depend on ever-changing technology. This fact sucks. The games industry just sucks. It knows what it is doing at every step of the way and is just making money out of people in new and exciting ways. I love games, I hate the games industry.
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Theoclymenus: Regarding the extras you speak of (soundtracks, wallpapers etc.), these things are more than welcome as freebies but not as DLC in a so-called "Deluxe" (or whatever) version of a game. They are just fluff. Most people don't download them anyway and would rather not be treated like idiots. To charge extra for them is more than just a bit cheeky.
Well, depends on what kind of extras are we talking about. Take Pillars of Eternity for example, they have books, ringtones, almanac, documentary, FLAC soundtrack, all kinds of goodies in their "Royal Edition". It's hard to give those things for free. But small stuff like MP3 soundtracks, that are often included on the CD, they should be included on Steam buy, but, most of the times aren't.
I'm probably going to stop buying Steam(and Origin) games because in the end, you are getting a bad deal with this kind of DRM. So many people think, the internet and services like Steam are going to be around forever but this is just wishful thinking. Nothing lasts forever. And in the end, it is going to be people with the massive collections of backed up GOGs who will have something to show from all the money they spent on games.
Post edited November 05, 2015 by monkeydelarge
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Theoclymenus: Regarding the extras you speak of (soundtracks, wallpapers etc.), these things are more than welcome as freebies but not as DLC in a so-called "Deluxe" (or whatever) version of a game. They are just fluff. Most people don't download them anyway and would rather not be treated like idiots. To charge extra for them is more than just a bit cheeky.
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mindblast: Well, depends on what kind of extras are we talking about. Take Pillars of Eternity for example, they have books, ringtones, almanac, documentary, FLAC soundtrack, all kinds of goodies in their "Royal Edition". It's hard to give those things for free. But small stuff like MP3 soundtracks, that are often included on the CD, they should be included on Steam buy, but, most of the times aren't.
Well I was thinking about buying Pillars of Eternity in the sale today, but ultimately I decided against it. What I wanted was : the game, its expansion, the manual (which I've already read and which I can say is "ok" by today's standards but hardly comprehensive), perhaps the almanac and perhaps the guide. All the other stuff would be lovely too, but I don't really want to pay for these things. Has the games industry joined forces with the (crap) music and video industry lately perchance ? It's just fluff, fluff and more fluff ! Prison Architect is another culprit. They can sell you the soundtrack of the game and their "name in the game" DLC but they can't be arsed to put a manual together. Sheesh ! It's just a blatant rip off. Even I'm not convinced by it.
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Rivdoric: I was wondering if some people were or are in my situation when they thought they had to choose to stay with Steam or leave it behind for a more "consumer friendly" platform like GoG is.
GoG seems to be the perfect platform for digital simply because it doesn't require multiple DRM, spying software or anything else to enjoy what you rightfully paid for.
I am not still sure how people can TOLERATE such platforms. But probably I am old.
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amok: Why does it have to be either or? Why not use both?
I don't know that either. Probably the OP wants to emphasize that he made a conscious decision against Steam and for GOG. It would not be so clear if he would just continue using Steam a little, wouldn't it? The impact would be much less and this thread would just be another one of a thousand of its kind saying: I like GOG more than Steam. Rather boring by now.

On the other hand I use both but I have a very clear preference for GOG almost not using Steam. If I would just say that I use both it would somehow not reflect what I really use. It would give a false impression.

Basically I propose to measure how many hours one spends with games that are either on GOG or on Steam. Judging this I probably use >95% GOG and <5% Steam and I feel like this is quite the right mixture for me.
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synfresh: ...Plus there are simply too many games out there that do not launch here for a variety of reasons. It's not just AAA games either. Even indie games (Braid, Super Meat Boy, Binding of Issac, etc.) don't always show up here.
These are probably the games one would like to still have on Steam or another plattform (Humble Bundle, directly at the dev,...) then. But often enough if I can have a game only on Steam and with DRM I kind of don't bother with it at all because I have so many games still not played and maybe they are not really good. There must be a really good reason until I can be persuaded to use Steam. Only for really good games I would kind of tolerate DRM.

I think this is a good compromise because it means that most of my games will be DRM free while I at the same time I can have all the games that are really good and many of the quite good games.

Unfortunately this would also mean that Braid, Super Meat Boy would be outside my scope because they are unfortunately not good enough to bother with them if they are not available DRM free.
Post edited November 05, 2015 by Trilarion
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monkeydelarge: I'm probably going to stop buying Steam(and Origin) games because in the end, you are getting a bad deal with this kind of DRM. So many people think, the internet and services like Steam are going to be around forever but this is just wishful thinking. Nothing lasts forever. And in the end, it is going to be people with the massive collections of backed up GOGs who will have something to show from all the money they spent on games.
Nothing lasts forever, not even back ups...