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CharlesGrey: Do you think you would have been this courageous, if your heroic resistance endangered not only your own life, but the lives of your family and friends? As others have said, things are rarely as simple as you claim them to be, and it's ridiculous to judge entire generations/nations from the comfort of our ( relatively ) safe modern environments.

Also, wasn't this thread about video games and porn, just a few hours back? Thanks, Obama.
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sunshinecorp: I don't think, I know. But since it's impossible for me to prove this to you (and pointless) why do you even ask?
I do not believe in countries or religion or politics and I'd rather avoid conflict. I have no interest in such things. But if someone tried to oppress me or those I cared about or was hell-bent on taking over the goddamn world, well... I can promise you I'd give my life to get in their way. Just to be annoying, you know? :P
Well, but would you do this when this means danger for your family and friends? If this, for example, would mean that your 3 years old daughter -if you had one- would be executed together with you and the rest of your family if they catch you?
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tinyE: A sad German?

You mean a Sauerkraut?

*RIMSHOT*
http://imgur.com/t/polandball/KCogkI9
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Maxvorstadt: Well, but would you do this when this means danger for your family and friends? If this, for example, would mean that your 3 years old daughter -if you had one- would be executed together with you and the rest of your family if they catch you?
I can't answer that. I don't have kids, nor do I want kids. I don't have a desire to build a family at all, so I'm rather biased.
As for friends? Yes, I'd be willing to risk them in order to save them. I hope they'd do the same.
Post edited April 27, 2016 by sunshinecorp
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Maxvorstadt: Well, but would you do this when this means danger for your family and friends? If this, for example, would mean that your 3 years old daughter -if you had one- would be executed together with you and the rest of your family if they catch you?
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sunshinecorp: I can't answer that. I don't have kids, nor do I want kids. I don't have a desire to build a family at all, so I'm rather biased.
As for friends? Yes, I'd be willing to risk them in order to save them. I hope they'd do the same.
Well, risking your own life is absolutely your decission. But risking other peoples life is a totally different pair of shoes!
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sunshinecorp: But if someone tried to oppress me or those I cared about or was hell-bent on taking over the goddamn world, well... I can promise you I'd give my life to get in their way. Just to be annoying, you know? :P
Well, then go and fight ISIS.
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stryx: Well, then go and fight ISIS.
Why? They have done nothing to me or to those I care about nor can they take over the world even if they wanted to. Now, please shut up with your straw man fallacies. I've had enough of this conversation. Thanks.
Post edited April 28, 2016 by sunshinecorp
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DubConqueror: Serving wasn't a choice in Nazi Germany. For Beate it might be, as a woman, but that was not your point. Your point was everyone who was in the Luftwaffe was a Nazi.

BTW, I tire likewise of you painting the world in black and white and refusing to see the colours in between. So yes, I'll stop pestering you (if I can help myself) and stop this useless to-and-fro that internet discussions often are. And we've veered off-topic for the second time anyway. From wanting to buy a bundle with region-lock, to porn, to what makes someone a Nazi. Internet is a weird thing.
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sunshinecorp: It's not weird. It's Godwin's Law.
I'd rather be executed than be drafted to serve the Wehrmacht. There's always a choice.
That, or be a subversive for the German resistance.
Of course there's a choice, cross the border and go join the Red Army :)