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Fallout 1 and 2 were strategic role-playing games with a good story and good characters. The first article on this link is to a new DLC for fallout 3.
http://www.falloutnewvegas.com/
Fallout 3: Point Lookout, you are not welcome here.
Post edited June 18, 2009 by sk8ing667
First off it is Role-Playing not roll playing. Also are you drunk?
typo. And no, just forgot to paste the link. Are you ignorant?
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sk8ing667: typo. And no, just forgot to paste the link. Are you ignorant?

Calling me ignorant while you posted a thread with no link discussing said link? Right.
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sk8ing667: typo. And no, just forgot to paste the link. Are you ignorant?
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Delekhan: Calling me ignorant while you posted a thread with no link discussing said link? Right.

thats just rude dude.
anyways regarding the topic. nothing in this world would convince me to buy their crappy DLCs or game for that matter.
I recently bought Fallout 3 (it's going cheap these days), but I find the game quite frustrating. It's good, yet flawed in several ways (which I wont go into now).
There is no way I would ever buy their DLC though. It all looks quite poor.
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Delekhan: Calling me ignorant while you posted a thread with no link discussing said link? Right.
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razvan252: thats just rude dude.
anyways regarding the topic. nothing in this world would convince me to buy their crappy DLCs or game for that matter.

It was hardly rude you didn't see his original post it was complete absent of anything that made sense. He recently edited it to make sense don't go blowing smoke for him he corrected his mistake then acted like a child about it that is his problem nor does he deserve to be defended for it.
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razvan252: thats just rude dude.
anyways regarding the topic. nothing in this world would convince me to buy their crappy DLCs or game for that matter.
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Delekhan: It was hardly rude you didn't see his original post it was complete absent of anything that made sense. He recently edited it to make sense don't go blowing smoke for him he corrected his mistake then acted like a child about it that is his problem nor does he deserve to be defended for it.

he edited the post. anyway your first post is rude. why would you post something like that? wouldnt it be simpler to click back or press backspace instead of starting the traditional almost never ending loop of arguments and insults?
Post edited June 20, 2009 by razvan252
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Delekhan: It was hardly rude you didn't see his original post it was complete absent of anything that made sense. He recently edited it to make sense don't go blowing smoke for him he corrected his mistake then acted like a child about it that is his problem nor does he deserve to be defended for it.
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razvan252: he edited the post. anyway your first post is rude. why would you post something like that? wouldnt it be simpler to click back or press backspace instead of starting the traditional almost never ending loop of arguments and insults?

No if anything if it had been another forum I would have just clicked report post. Instead he posts utter nonsense and instead of going ok I made a mistake he ad-homs me. All I asked was if he was drunk hardly offensive unless you easily get your panties in a bunch.
you know what, this thread has no point anymore. For some reason me forgetting to post a link has made another GOGer extremely agitated and I don't want that. If there is any way to do this, it would be just great if someone could lock/close/delete this thread.
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Delekhan: No if anything if it had been another forum I would have just clicked report post. Instead he posts utter nonsense and instead of going ok I made a mistake he ad-homs me. All I asked was if he was drunk hardly offensive unless you easily get your panties in a bunch.

congrats on completely derailing the thread. someone post about the actual subject here.
And what is the topic at hand here, anyway? All I see in the first post is "Fallout 1 and 2 were great, here's a link to a video of the newest Fallout 3 DLC, SCREW YOU BETHE$DA". This is not a good way to start a discussion, and I have a hard time seeing what the OP wanted out of it except a flame war.
Anyway, here's my opinion on the subject: Fallout 1 and 2 were fantastic, albeit flawed (buggy, a lot of cut content leading to loose threads, slow combat, etc), games. Fallout 3 is also a very good game, although it also has several severe flaws (buggy, repetitive dialogue due to limited voice acting, bad voice acting, stiff animations, etc). That said, they're so different from one another that a direct comparison is by no means fair.
A lot of fans of the original Fallout games, the OP of this thread seemingly included, feel that Fallout 3 somehow ruined what already was. Personally, I can't really see how that makes sense to them. It's a separate game and does not directly affect the original games in any way, and without it the series would be dead and buried by now anyway - or, worse yet, there could have been another Brotherhood of Steel game in its place. Either way, being angry about Fallout 3 seems completely ridiculous to me.
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Undeadbeat: It's a separate game and does not directly affect the original games in any way, and without it the series would be dead and buried by now anyway - or, worse yet, there could have been another Brotherhood of Steel game in its place. Either way, being angry about Fallout 3 seems completely ridiculous to me.

it does.
1. it started a shitty fps tradition for fallout games.
2. with that it killed the predecessors.
3. with that it shattered any hope of a real fallout game being made.
4. it used its predecessors name in the worst way.
5. its just bad.
bethesda didnt need the fallout license to create fallout 3. they could ave started a new game series.
Post edited June 21, 2009 by razvan252
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Undeadbeat: It's a separate game and does not directly affect the original games in any way, and without it the series would be dead and buried by now anyway - or, worse yet, there could have been another Brotherhood of Steel game in its place. Either way, being angry about Fallout 3 seems completely ridiculous to me.
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razvan252: it does.
1. it started a shitty fps tradition for fallout games.
2. with that it killed the predecessors.
3. with that it shattered any hope of a real fallout game being made.
4. it used its predecessors name in the worst way.
5. its just bad.
bethesda didnt need the fallout license to create fallout 3. they could ave started a new game series.

Are you honestly saying that you cannot enjoy Fallout 1 and 2 simply due to Fallout 3 being the way it is? That Fallout 1 and 2 somehow became worse when Fallout 3 was released? Things don't work that way. Let me respond to your individual points.
1. First off, Fallout 3 isn't actually an FPS any more than Fallout 1 and 2 were turn-based combat simulators. And it really hasn't started any "tradition" at all, it's just one game. If several more Fallout games are released and play the same way, I might buy that part of your point, but that's several years into the future. You can't claim that a tradition of any kind has been started because one single game does something a particular way.
2. Did installing Fallout 3 on your computer remove Fallout 1 and 2 from it? Did it make the original games worse in some way? You really need to elaborate on this, because I can't wrap my head around how one game "kills" another. This does not happen.
3. What hope was there for another "real" Fallout game being made? Black Isle no longer produces anything, you know. How do you define a "real" Fallout game? Isometric and turn-based? I'm sorry to break this to you, but that just wouldn't work today. As much as I'd love to see another isometric, turn-based Fallout, the fact is that the only people who'd buy it are some of the ones who loved the original games. That's fine for a fan project that people make in their spare time, but any proper product has to bring in money to be viable.
4. No, Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel used the name "in the worst way". Have you played this game? If you haven't please do so. Go on, I'll wait. Once you're done, we'll see if you honestly believe that Fallout 3 is the worst thing to happen to Fallout.
5. If you don't like the game, don't play it. I'm pretty sure nobody's holding a gun to your head and forcing you.
Bethesda could have created their own post-nuclear role playing game franchise, that's true. They could not, however, have created Fallout 3 under that guise if they didn't want to get sued. I fail to see how buying a dead franchise and reviving it is doing anyone a disservice.
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Undeadbeat: 1. First off, Fallout 3 isn't actually an FPS any more than Fallout 1 and 2 were turn-based combat simulators. And it really hasn't started any "tradition" at all, it's just one game. If several more Fallout games are released and play the same way, I might buy that part of your point, but that's several years into the future. You can't claim that a tradition of any kind has been started because one single game does something a particular way.

yes it is. its not a role playing game. its an fps much like far cry 2. no tradition?
Fallout 3
Fallout 3 DLCs
Fallout: New Vegas
Fallout 3: Point Lookout
Fallout 4
and who knows how many more are or will be annonced.
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Undeadbeat: 2. Did installing Fallout 3 on your computer remove Fallout 1 and 2 from it? Did it make the original games worse in some way? You really need to elaborate on this, because I can't wrap my head around how one game "kills" another. This does not happen.

bad word killed. it RAPED the franchise.
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Undeadbeat: 3. What hope was there for another "real" Fallout game being made? Black Isle no longer produces anything, you know. How do you define a "real" Fallout game? Isometric and turn-based? I'm sorry to break this to you, but that just wouldn't work today. As much as I'd love to see another isometric, turn-based Fallout, the fact is that the only people who'd buy it are some of the ones who loved the original games. That's fine for a fan project that people make in their spare time, but any proper product has to bring in money to be viable.

hello?? van buren??? interplay will always be alive and kicking no matter what financial difficulties they are in. and ive been over this recently. isometric or top down view camera games are FAR from dead. look some of them up on gamespot. and i doubt that one of the most expected games, starcraft 2 will have it any other way.
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Undeadbeat: 4. No, Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel used the name "in the worst way". Have you played this game? If you haven't please do so. Go on, I'll wait. Once you're done, we'll see if you honestly believe that Fallout 3 is the worst thing to happen to Fallout.

that was for consoles. i dont care about consoles.
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Undeadbeat: 5. If you don't like the game, don't play it. I'm pretty sure nobody's holding a gun to your head and forcing you.

if i dont play it how could i say the game sucks?
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Undeadbeat: I fail to see how buying a dead franchise and reviving it is doing anyone a disservice.

from my point of view the franchise would have been better off dead in the first place. they didnt revive it. they USED its name and content(hell even quests. search for a geck?? what the fuck???) to sell their crappy game.
Post edited June 21, 2009 by razvan252