Thanks for the link, I found out Bethesda owns the rights to Fallout totally! (With exception to the mmo license)
I hope that's a good thing. As far as the DRM article, it doesn't state if D2D uses it or not, so I still have no clue :(
-Cym

I would doubt it. Since it is a disk check only, and there is no disk to check with D2D I would doubt that it is there. Plus the fact that it was verified that STEAM does not have it.

That makes sense, but still doesn't explain why I had to activate it, unless that's a D2D thing and not related to the game at all.

It is true about the .exe thing, I usually use that instead of the launchers anyway. Seemed to run without the dvd even.

i bought half life 2 4 years ago and swore i would never try any steam game ever again. Maybe now its time to give them another shot. I just hope tomb raider doesn't have sucku-rom in it either. I looked at the page for it, but since its not out yet, maybe its not acurate.

Correct, I am pretty sure you have to activate every D2D game. Its their own form of DRM. For the boxed store bout copy I did not have to do any online activation to install or play.

Thanks for the clarification :)

For the record: I just installed the FO3 DVD version yesterday and haven't had to activate anything or put any codes in. i was going to get the steam version, but then decided i didn't want to wait 8 hours for the game to download :D

i'll take the download over the sucku-rom anyday of the week

i haven't had a problem with it, each to their own I guess. I'm sure someone will come up with a patch to remove it, so I'm not really worried.

i've heard of people loosing drives due to suckurom. Im not going to chance it. This is why i hate sony. First they did it with music and now its the f***ing suckurom.

Securom used to have a problem back in the day. These days there's no chance of you losing ur drive to it

I installed Fallout 3 from a disc (Bobblehead FTW :p) with Daemon tools running in the background and the installer went just fine, and the game ran just fine. Whatever SecuROM we have here, its nothing serious.

I had Half Life 1 _years_ back and all of a sudden this Steam thing came up which was absolutely terrible...
but recently I bought the Orange Box (HL2, Episode 1, Episode 2, Portal, Team Fortress 2 and Peggle) which was an incredible deal and to my pleasure I discovered that Steam has become a semi-competent piece of software and I don't mind using it.
Fallout 3 is very very good. It's not Fallout-ish as the previous two games were. There are some scenes which don't impact me as much as the isometric views, curiously enough, and storywise it's a bit weak but it's very detailed and post-apocalyptic. Almost there and a brilliant game on its own merit.

i don't think steam was ever intended to be mean and nasty, but it originally was. Suckurom is and always be software to baby sit end users activities. Sony themselves are an evil company. Combine the 2 ideas and you get a program that is and always will be bad.