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Itsamnaaj: Mister, this member of party A worked as a researcher in the field of molecular biology.

If I were to karyotype you, I would find an X and Y chromosome in your 23rd chromosome pair; unless you suffer from a trisomy 23 condition such as Klinefelter's Syndrome (XXY). An MRI of your cerebrum would show us a male brain. Is this biological enough for you, sir?
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TauLambda: Hey, another academic. I'm a neuroscience guy. Doing research right now looking at how people with different personality types respond physiologically and behaviorally (reaction time) to threatening stimuli under masked and unmasked conditions. Previously was looking into meditation and neuroplasticity.

However, like you, I went through education to understand sex hormones and genetics.
That is so fascinating. I read that study that demonstrated meditation increases synaptic GABA and neurogenesis, what did you learn in your study?

My last work before changing careers was on the AMPK-mTOR-FoxO axis, its relation to autophagy and how it could be modulated in cancer treatment. Tl:dr; fasting and metformin are great cancer therapeutics. Of course I also learned about the reproductive system; I learned I don't find female anatomy very interesting.

Anyway, back on topic. My playthrough of Baldur's Gate 3 is going to be severely gay, I want to wear Astarion like a mask.
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TauLambda: XX chromosomes = women XY = Male.
How about XXY?

Or just X?

Or XXXXX?

Or XYY?

Yes, those things can and do happen. More frequently, perhaps, than you might think.

More than that: Someone can have XY chromosomes, but their Y chromosome fails to properly activate and develope androgens. The child physically develops as female .... and short of a genetic test, NOT EVEN A DOCTOR WOULD HAVE A CLUE that their chromosomes were not XX.
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Itsamnaaj: Mister, this member of party A worked as a researcher in the field of molecular biology.

If I were to karyotype you, I would find an X and Y chromosome in your 23rd chromosome pair; unless you suffer from a trisomy 23 condition such as Klinefelter's Syndrome (XXY). An MRI of your cerebrum would show us a male brain. Is this biological enough for you, sir?
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TauLambda: Hey, another academic. I'm a neuroscience guy. Doing research right now looking at how people with different personality types respond physiologically and behaviorally (reaction time) to threatening stimuli under masked and unmasked conditions. Previously was looking into meditation and neuroplasticity.

However, like you, I went through education to understand sex hormones and genetics.
Clearly you didnt learn enough or you would know that the sex in the brain supercedes the sex in the chromosomes.
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SarahGabriella: Besides, they think my thread is about racism and LGBT talk when it was a simple question.
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Gandomyr: This thread serves no purpose. I answered that question. Gave you example of color NPCs, color companions and gay companions. With pictures attached to my post too, so you can judge for yourself. Thread should've ended then and there.
Youre not welcome here. Stay out of my thread.
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SarahGabriella: Youre not welcome here. Stay out of my thread.
Not welcome for being on topic. Sheesh. People these day and age. Keep your thread. It's about anything but Baldur's Gate III.
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TauLambda: XX chromosomes = women XY = Male.
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_Pax_: How about XXY?

Or just X?

Or XXXXX?

Or XYY?

Yes, those things can and do happen. More frequently, perhaps, than you might think.
I mentioned trisomy 23 earlier with the example of 47,XXY or Klinefelter's Syndrome. 47,XYY syndrome is another variant. However, these trisomies do not cause intersex conditions; 47,XXY and 47,XYY persons are male with male genitalia since the SRY gene is functional and present in a Y chromosome.

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_Pax_: More than that: Someone can have XY chromosomes, but their Y chromosome fails to properly activate and develope androgens. The child physically develops as female .... and short of a genetic test, NOT EVEN A DOCTOR WOULD HAVE A CLUE that their chromosomes were not XX.
Translocation to the X chromosome of the SRY gene, which actually decides sex based on the chromosomes present in pair 23, will result in females with XY chromosomes. XX males are also possible if the SRY gene translocates to the end of either X chromosome. People with these abnormal karyotypes have one thing in common: they identify as their birth sex as adults.

Conversely, since sex chromosome trisomies or translocations are exceedingly rare, it is clear practically no transgenders suffer from these conditions. Therefore, the existence of sex chromosome trisomies and SRY translocations is irrelevant to the question "Is a trans man a man and is a trans woman a woman?".

Transgender activism is becoming unhinged and divorced from reality. This gaymer will fight back when trans activists try to peddle their unscientific poppycock in a gaming forum, of all places.

Trans men are women, trans women are men.

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SarahGabriella: Youre not welcome here. Stay out of my thread.
I believe it has been clarified before that this is GOG's forum. This is not your safe space, here you will be confronted with opinions that may not be your own.

Your questions have been thoroughly answered; Baldur's Gate 3 is an inclusive game that does not discriminate. You can enjoy it without your typical helping of bourgeois liberal guilt.
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SarahGabriella: Stay out of my thread.
lol
Since it's at the top of the list of threads again, I'm not going to hurt it much by posting.

As long as you guys keep conversing and trying to "prove" some point about why this thread's idea is absurd, you are just giving it more primetime spotlight.

Let the OP bump it all he wants. As long as he can continue having 'conversations', its legitimizes it to some extent.

I'd let it die. I certainly, no matter what he says about me or what I wrote, going to respond or post in this thread again. Everything that needs to be said has been.
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Kohleran: Since it's at the top of the list of threads again, I'm not going to hurt it much by posting.

As long as you guys keep conversing and trying to "prove" some point about why this thread's idea is absurd, you are just giving it more primetime spotlight.

Let the OP bump it all he wants. As long as he can continue having 'conversations', its legitimizes it to some extent.

I'd let it die. I certainly, no matter what he says about me or what I wrote, going to respond or post in this thread again. Everything that needs to be said has been.
He?
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TauLambda: Hey, another academic. I'm a neuroscience guy. Doing research right now looking at how people with different personality types respond physiologically and behaviorally (reaction time) to threatening stimuli under masked and unmasked conditions. Previously was looking into meditation and neuroplasticity.

However, like you, I went through education to understand sex hormones and genetics.
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Itsamnaaj: That is so fascinating. I read that study that demonstrated meditation increases synaptic GABA and neurogenesis, what did you learn in your study?
Short answer, inconclusive. We think meditation may increase diffuse connections throughout the medial prefrontal area and hippocampus via encouraging growth of dendritic spines and that 5-HT may modulate this. However, again, nothing is set in stone which I want to emphasize as I do dislike making a statement unless I can prove it to be true.

Unfortunately, I do not think we will be able to change the minds of the hardened members from the Cult of Woke here no matter how much science is thrown at them. My only hope is that the devs do not cave to this political ideology which seems to want to erode at the foundations of Western Enlightenment. I think they are playing with fire and do not even know it. If our society cannot even agree on what constitutes male and female (the most basic dichotomy in our civilization) how are we supposed to come to agreement on anything? I aim to be open minded to new ideas, but this is like a cancer which is spreading in academia and it truly saddens me to see so many people now days focused so much on race and sexual orientation. In my mind we need each other, people on the right an left. We see the world differently, and the only way to get a clear picture of what is really going on is to constantly have a dialogue between opposing views. I hope we can get back to that.

And yes, back on topic, I had a chuckle at your "severely gay "play though comment. I on the other hand am looking forward to really "getting to know" a hot blooded XX chromosome tiefling. Want to get that succubus vibe going.
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Itsamnaaj: That is so fascinating. I read that study that demonstrated meditation increases synaptic GABA and neurogenesis, what did you learn in your study?
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TauLambda: Short answer, inconclusive. We think meditation may increase diffuse connections throughout the medial prefrontal area and hippocampus via encouraging growth of dendritic spines and that 5-HT may modulate this. However, again, nothing is set in stone which I want to emphasize as I do dislike making a statement unless I can prove it to be true.

Unfortunately, I do not think we will be able to change the minds of the hardened members from the Cult of Woke here no matter how much science is thrown at them. My only hope is that the devs do not cave to this political ideology which seems to want to erode at the foundations of Western Enlightenment. I think they are playing with fire and do not even know it. If our society cannot even agree on what constitutes male and female (the most basic dichotomy in our civilization) how are we supposed to come to agreement on anything? I aim to be open minded to new ideas, but this is like a cancer which is spreading in academia and it truly saddens me to see so many people now days focused so much on race and sexual orientation. In my mind we need each other, people on the right an left. We see the world differently, and the only way to get a clear picture of what is really going on is to constantly have a dialogue between opposing views. I hope we can get back to that.

And yes, back on topic, I had a chuckle at your "severely gay "play though comment. I on the other hand am looking forward to really "getting to know" a hot blooded XX chromosome tiefling. Want to get that succubus vibe going.
Take your transphobia elsewhere, this thread isnt for you to spew lies and hatred.
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TauLambda: Short answer, inconclusive. We think meditation may increase diffuse connections throughout the medial prefrontal area and hippocampus via encouraging growth of dendritic spines and that 5-HT may modulate this. However, again, nothing is set in stone which I want to emphasize as I do dislike making a statement unless I can prove it to be true.

Unfortunately, I do not think we will be able to change the minds of the hardened members from the Cult of Woke here no matter how much science is thrown at them. My only hope is that the devs do not cave to this political ideology which seems to want to erode at the foundations of Western Enlightenment. I think they are playing with fire and do not even know it. If our society cannot even agree on what constitutes male and female (the most basic dichotomy in our civilization) how are we supposed to come to agreement on anything? I aim to be open minded to new ideas, but this is like a cancer which is spreading in academia and it truly saddens me to see so many people now days focused so much on race and sexual orientation. In my mind we need each other, people on the right an left. We see the world differently, and the only way to get a clear picture of what is really going on is to constantly have a dialogue between opposing views. I hope we can get back to that.

And yes, back on topic, I had a chuckle at your "severely gay "play though comment. I on the other hand am looking forward to really "getting to know" a hot blooded XX chromosome tiefling. Want to get that succubus vibe going.
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SarahGabriella: Take your transphobia elsewhere, this thread isnt for you to spew lies and hatred.
Where have I lied and where is my hate? Don't so carelessly throw your accusations around. At no point have I expressed any hatred to any individual. I believe in individual choice, individual freedom, and freedom of speech. I don't care about skin colour, sexual orientation, or biological sex. All that matters is if you are a good person.
Science is not transphobic, you may disagree with it, and you have a right to do so if you wish, but then it becomes incumbent of you to prove it wrong. I am happy to acknowledge that some people may identify as the opposite sex. I am even happy to call them by he/she, whichever they want, but just because you THINK you are something does not make you actually that thing. Am I an astronaut because I identify as one? As a black man can I become white by bleaching my skin? No, because by genetics say I am black. If I were to have a child, no matter how much I bleached myself, the child would be born with darker skin. Your DNA does not lie.

I used to be a leftist, but it was people like you who woke me up. I simply could not believe that the people who claimed to be for "tolerance" and "acceptance" could be so hateful of a person simply because they had a different opinion.
Nope. This is a whites only game. You'd do better to stay away.
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TauLambda: Trans women are not women, they are trans women, just like trans men. An adult who decides to transition has every right to do so, and if I met one I would likely refer to them by she/he depending on the transition, but taking hormones,changing your clothes, and cutting off your genitalia does not change your biological sex. XX chromosomes = women XY = Male. This is part of the reason people do not want this ideology to pollute games because it advocates things which are disjointed from reality and demands that people accept it as fact or else be called transphobic.

You are advocating for 2+2=5

People push back when you accuse them of being bigoted because they disagree with your opinion.
1) Biological sex isn't that simple. Chromosomes are way more complicated then that--XYY is more common that schizophrenia, and the majority of people who have it never even realize they do but go their whole life thinking their normal males. That isn't even getting into the weird things that can happen with hormones--androgen resistance is a real thing that can make a genetic XY person develop with a completely female body--or gene transposition like having a partial X chromosome overwrite the Y chromosome etc. Biological sex has *always* been more complicated then than the hard XX/XY dichotomy we simplify it as.

2) Biological sex has *nothing* to do with gender. There can be and have been and currently *are* many, many societies with more than two gender positions, sometimes five or six, and which gender you fall into is a social and psychological construct that is interrelated to how your biological sex is perceived by both yourself and others but is not dependent on it.

3) I don't know that you're bigoted, but you are *definitely* ignorant. That's not a *value* judgement, it's a statement about your lack of knowledge regarding the genetics, physiology, and anthropology of both sex and gender.
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TauLambda: Trans women are not women, they are trans women, just like trans men. An adult who decides to transition has every right to do so, and if I met one I would likely refer to them by she/he depending on the transition, but taking hormones,changing your clothes, and cutting off your genitalia does not change your biological sex. XX chromosomes = women XY = Male. This is part of the reason people do not want this ideology to pollute games because it advocates things which are disjointed from reality and demands that people accept it as fact or else be called transphobic.

You are advocating for 2+2=5

People push back when you accuse them of being bigoted because they disagree with your opinion.
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Katarack21: 1) Biological sex isn't that simple. Chromosomes are way more complicated then that--XYY is more common that schizophrenia, and the majority of people who have it never even realize they do but go their whole life thinking their normal males. That isn't even getting into the weird things that can happen with hormones--androgen resistance is a real thing that can make a genetic XY person develop with a completely female body--or gene transposition like having a partial X chromosome overwrite the Y chromosome etc. Biological sex has *always* been more complicated then than the hard XX/XY dichotomy we simplify it as.

2) Biological sex has *nothing* to do with gender. There can be and have been and currently *are* many, many societies with more than two gender positions, sometimes five or six, and which gender you fall into is a social and psychological construct that is interrelated to how your biological sex is perceived by both yourself and others but is not dependent on it.

3) I don't know that you're bigoted, but you are *definitely* ignorant. That's not a *value* judgement, it's a statement about your lack of knowledge regarding the genetics, physiology, and anthropology of both sex and gender.
Dont bother with these off topic going, science denying transphobes.
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SarahGabriella: Take your transphobia elsewhere, this thread isnt for you to spew lies and hatred.
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TauLambda: Where have I lied and where is my hate?
"Cult of woke" ... "leftist" ... pretty much half the words out of your damned mouth, really.