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Posted April 05, 2010
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CrashToOverride: Honestly, I would love to see them bring the series onto the GOG library. I never got to play either one but get to hear all the good stuff from friends who have. But I have a feeling if EA agreed to let GOG list their game, it would be like "This is nice that nothing is over 9.99, but we would like to see 15.99" or something like that.
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cogadh: GOG is already going to introduce at least two more price points at some point this year. One will be higher than the current max of $9.99, the other will be lower than the $5.99 price point. The higher price point is going to be used for some collections and newer games, while the lower will be for really old games. If price is the only sticking point EA might have with releasing the games on GOG (I really doubt it is the only one), it will very likely be a non-issue before the end of the year.

Oh that opens a whole new ball game now. Be interesting to see what collections/newer/really old games they choose to list. I could see EA saying sure to maybe 15 bucks or so (Which I have a feeling it will jump to 14.99 or 15.99). I could see a lot of companies saying sure to that, Deus Ex even,
Posted April 05, 2010
Both Deus Ex games are already selling on Steam for $9.99 each, price is no obstruction to seeing them here. Besides, those aren't EA games, they are Squeenix/Eidos.
Posted April 05, 2010
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cogadh: Both Deus Ex games are already selling on Steam for $9.99 each, price is no obstruction to seeing them here. Besides, those aren't EA games, they are Squeenix/Eidos.

Oh I know that. Meant it will just be easier to get games like that. Such as games still popular and a little newer.
Post edited April 05, 2010 by CrashToOverride
Posted April 06, 2010
Sadly, it seems that it's out of Irrational Games' hands:
http://irrationalgames.com/community/forums/ask-irrational/system-shock-2-rereleaseremake/
That leaves EA. You'd think that after how successful the Fallout Trilogy re-release has been, they'd be biting at the bit...yet no announcement so far. I never got to play these games, and they won't work on newer systems, so I guess I'll just have to keep crossing my fingers.
Posted April 06, 2010
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cowboyupinblue: Sadly, it seems that it's out of Irrational Games' hands:
http://irrationalgames.com/community/forums/ask-irrational/system-shock-2-rereleaseremake/
That leaves EA. You'd think that after how successful the Fallout Trilogy re-release has been, they'd be biting at the bit...yet no announcement so far. I never got to play these games, and they won't work on newer systems, so I guess I'll just have to keep crossing my fingers.

It was never really in Irrational's hands. Looking Glass originally came up with the concept for the first game, but EA owned the full rights to the System Shock license from the moment the game was released, through their ownership of Origin. As for SS2, Looking Glass/Irrational actually planned on making a different game, but when they pitched it to publishers, EA basically said "Hey, we love that idea, but why don't you change it and make it into System Shock 2?" And so, what might have been an original game that Looking Glass/Irrational owned at least some rights to, instead became a licensed sequel that they never owned any part of at all.
Posted April 06, 2010
EA is never going to dump/license the System Shock license, it's far too profitable of a series, the fan love of Bioshock is proof of that.
To be honest, I think EA has backed themselves into a corner with it. They know they have the rights to an extremely hot IP on their hands, but they are also smart enough to know that it is the one series you don't mess with with and make a half-assed sequel, since the fan base is so vocal and dedicated that any bad choices would keep the game from selling.
Look at Deus Ex: IW and the in development Deus Ex 3 for a good example of "When good IP's go bad and piss off a dedicated fan base". Also look at Project Snowblind.
Amazing that Ion Storm made Thief: Deadly Shadows as good as they did.
Posted April 06, 2010
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Wraith: To be honest, I think EA has backed themselves into a corner with it. They know they have the rights to an extremely hot IP on their hands, but they are also smart enough to know that it is the one series you don't mess with with and make a half-assed sequel, since the fan base is so vocal and dedicated that any bad choices would keep the game from selling.

No, they couldn't care less about messing long-time franchise and pissing off fanbase. See: Command & Conquer 4.
Posted April 06, 2010
It will, eventually. Why? Another World, Gobliiins and many more "true" classics already available on the store are the proof.
Post edited April 06, 2010 by KingofGnG
Posted April 06, 2010
Ah, the System Shock Forever anticipation thread!:D Every now and then, especially near April 1st, it comes out of hiding, winks and disappears in EA's specific brand of brown vapor. A fart.
I'm wondering, what's more likely to happen, EA on GOG, or me and the main prize in Lotto? I must admit that the average number of lottery tickets i buy annually exceeds the number of "when will SS hit GOG" thoughts.;)
Posted April 06, 2010
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Wraith: Amazing that Ion Storm made Thief: Deadly Shadows as good as they did.

You must be kidding..
Posted April 06, 2010
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cowboyupinblue: Sadly, it seems that it's out of Irrational Games' hands:
http://irrationalgames.com/community/forums/ask-irrational/system-shock-2-rereleaseremake/
That leaves EA. You'd think that after how successful the Fallout Trilogy re-release has been, they'd be biting at the bit...yet no announcement so far. I never got to play these games, and they won't work on newer systems, so I guess I'll just have to keep crossing my fingers.
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cogadh: It was never really in Irrational's hands. Looking Glass originally came up with the concept for the first game, but EA owned the full rights to the System Shock license from the moment the game was released, through their ownership of Origin. As for SS2, Looking Glass/Irrational actually planned on making a different game, but when they pitched it to publishers, EA basically said "Hey, we love that idea, but why don't you change it and make it into System Shock 2?" And so, what might have been an original game that Looking Glass/Irrational owned at least some rights to, instead became a licensed sequel that they never owned any part of at all.

It worked like that? I thought EA didnt have complete rights over System Shock, and that's why they didn't do anything with the games. Like they owned the name and such, but they didn't have distribution rights or something like that.
Posted April 06, 2010
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Wraith: Amazing that Ion Storm made Thief: Deadly Shadows as good as they did.
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paldepind: You must be kidding..

No, I actually loved Thief DS, and I'm playing it through again as well. Hell, I practically love it just because of the Robbing the Cradle mission alone.
Posted April 06, 2010
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Wraith: Look at Deus Ex: IW and the in development Deus Ex 3 for a good example of "When good IP's go bad and piss off a dedicated fan base". Also look at Project Snowblind.

I will rebute anyone who thinks Deus Ex Invisible War is a bad game or otherwise underachieves in comparison to the original Deus Ex. Both are the best (and pretty much the only) truly cyberpunk modern RPGs.
Playing them side by side is the only comparison I accept. Don't come with "Invisible War is dated", picking the graphics as proof of quality is the first mistake people make these days.
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Astalano: I've longing to play them, I can't find the first one and the second one is so expensive now. Is it possible that GOG may have both these titles in the future? I'd pick them up in a heartbeat.

You know, I became more optimistic about Origin and similar classic companies after such major superpowers such as Activision and Atari came to GOG.
I suppose we could dream of EA games coming to GOG in a year or so if things keep improving at this pace.
Post edited April 06, 2010 by RafaelLopez
Posted April 06, 2010
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Wraith: Look at Deus Ex: IW and the in development Deus Ex 3 for a good example of "When good IP's go bad and piss off a dedicated fan base". Also look at Project Snowblind.
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RafaelLopez: I will rebute anyone who thinks Deus Ex Invisible War is a bad game or otherwise underachieves in comparison to the original Deus Ex. Both are the best (and pretty much the only) truly cyberpunk modern RPGs.
Playing them side by side is the only comparison I accept. Don't come with "Invisible War is dated", picking the graphics as proof of quality is the first mistake people make these days.

I have played both games, in fact, I played IW before I played Deus Ex and I have to say in my opinion, IW is not a worthy successor. It is a good game in its own right and had it not been the sequel to one of the greatest games ever, it might hold a loftier place in the history of video games, however, about the only things that were better about IW were the graphics and to a slight degree, the voice acting (sorry, but JC was voiced by one of the most wooden actors I have ever heard). The story was severely lacking in comparison to the complexity and depth of the original game, the gameplay itself was somewhat uninspired and linear and it just didn't make me want to sit at my computer all night and keep playing like Deus Ex did. I am hopeful that the third game will redeem the series for IW, but, game developers and publishers have made a nasty habit of crushing my hopes lately.
BTW - The best cyberpunk RPGs are the System Shock games, not the Deus Ex games, they are really second best.
Posted April 07, 2010
I have to be honest, I LOVED DEUS EX, I mean I played it over and over. Got IW the day or so after it came out and loved it. True, it doesn't have the dark, gritty story of the first one or the depth of weapon mods and AUGs. But I thought it pretty much improved on the basic game play of the series. The multiple endings, the story twists and the new handling of weapon mods/AUGs/Ammo system/Unique Weapons just drew me in. I have played the original through twice, but IW almost 5-6 times. But they are both GREAT games.
Haven't played the System Shock series, is it any good?
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