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Weclock: Games that aren't on PC, can be ported to PC by emulation. Also, I vote for EVERY GAME.
Because I think Every game deserves a chance.
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Patakreps: I don't get it. If you vote for every single one of these games, what is the point of voting anyway ? You don't give every game its chance since they all have the same exact amount of votes + 1 than before! ;)

That's a good point, but I am not familliar with all the games on there, I don't want to not vote for a good game just because I don't know what it is.
Not to completely derail the thread, but I feel compelled to reply to one thing.
Actually, when it comes to those Xbox emulators you found on google deathkitten:
* Xeon can only play Halo 1 NTSC, it doesn't do it all that well if I'm to believe what it says on that page, and it's last release was in 2003.
* Cxbx can run some games, but has a dev team that's on and off, and afaik doesn't have sound support at all... so unless you want to play games muted, that's not an alternative either.
With that in mind, there really isn't much alternative to emulate Xbox yet.
Back to the issue itself, if a game is well enough emulated, then I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be included...they "just" have to persuade the companies to accept having their games released for other "consoles" (or in this case, the PC actually) than it was intended for and thus removing the titles exclusivity (possibly even the exclusivity it has towards the companies own consoles if it is developed by a console marketing company).
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Weclock: That's a good point, but I am not familliar with all the games on there, I don't want to not vote for a good game just because I don't know what it is.

Regardless, even if all the games listed here are good, the problem is that if you vote for all of them, no game moves ahead in relative popularity. Hypothetically, let's say there's a tie between System Shock and Torment, and you have the last votes to decide which one gets to be on GOG...vote for both and it's still a tie. It's as if you hadn't voted at all.
However, if there was some threshold cutoff that a title has to reach to be considered by GOG, what you're doing could make sense. Say if GOG only considers games that reach, say 50 votes, then voting for everything would be great. But there's a problem...I really don't think that's how they're treating this list yet. If at a later time they decide to set some arbitrary threshold, they'll still maybe only look at the top quarter of the wishlist.
Post edited October 02, 2008 by Skrig
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Weclock: That's a good point, but I am not familliar with all the games on there, I don't want to not vote for a good game just because I don't know what it is.
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Skrig: Regardless, even if all the games listed here are good, the problem is that if you vote for all of them, no game moves ahead in relative popularity. Hypothetically, let's say there's a tie between System Shock and Torment, and you have the last votes to decide which one gets to be on GOG...vote for both and it's still a tie. It's as if you hadn't voted at all.

Is the idea to have games compete or to show that there is a demand for the games? I'm confused, I'd like to have every game available, and I thought that was the idea, to vote for what games you want, not to say 'oh i want this game more than that game.' if that was the case, you'd only be allowed to vote so many times I suppose. Why would you have to choose between two games like that? why couldn't you have both?
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Thar: I noticed that at the moment of writing this commentary, Star Control 2 has 46 votes.
It's a great game, but it is also available for download - completely free! SC2 sources have been released to the community, and enhanced version along with a few mods is now at http://sc2.sourceforge.net/. What isn't available, are old intro and outro movies and game's name - since it is copyrighted by 3DO. Still, I had much fun playing Ur-Quan Masters, as it is called now.
Dunno how many SC2 fans will reach this post ;)

Well then people need to vote for Planet's Edge!!! If you like the Star Control series you'll like Planet's Edge. Its probably my favorite game and a HOTU pick. :)
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Weclock: Why would you have to choose between two games like that? why couldn't you have both?

Voting allows GOG to decide which games to focus on bringing in. It does not mean the other game will not come in, but it shows what the community wants to see first. To try and focus on every game means nothing will get done.
Post edited October 02, 2008 by Qikdraw
YA! I found another FREE GAME on the list: SAVAGE: The Battle For Newerth
Also, I agree with Qikdeaw. I am voting for games I know, and would like to see on here. I may vote for other games latter when some of the ones I have voted for have come to GOG.
Maybe for the list, if GOG has them in there catalogue, maybe, instead of the vote button, it has a 'GOG HAS GOT THIS GAME!' message in the, and the button links to the game in the Catalogue.
Post edited October 02, 2008 by Jagji56
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Weclock: Is the idea to have games compete or to show that there is a demand for the games? I'm confused, I'd like to have every game available, and I thought that was the idea, to vote for what games you want, not to say 'oh i want this game more than that game.' if that was the case, you'd only be allowed to vote so many times I suppose. Why would you have to choose between two games like that? why couldn't you have both?

Sorry, I added a bit to my last post while you were writing. I can't say that I know how they'll treat the list, but my guess is that they want to see what games they should focus on importing next. I suppose it is possible that they could also want a total count of every game to hand a printout to each publisher and say "X people want this game".
Anyways, in regards to the two games, it's a hypothetical situation. If you had 100 games (each, amazingly, tied), the same principle applies. A vote for all wouldn't change their relative position. Thus, the absolute count would go up (which would help if your assumption is right...that they want a high tally to demonstrate demand), but the relative count would stay the same (which would not help if my assumption is right...that they need help deciding what to go after next.)
Post edited October 02, 2008 by Skrig
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Kombat: There is currently no emulator for XBox or PS3 available, nore would i see the possibility in the near future. I'm sorry but suggesting or voting for those games is a waste of time :/
Also voting on all games makes your own votes kinda void. You could just as well vote none.
And while many games deserve to get to GOG, the point of this list is to find the few the GOG team should put their efforts in aquiring. I rather have them work 4 weeks to get System Shock II than 10 mediocre games noone ever heard of.

There is currently no official Xbox or PS3 emulator, but it is possible that there might be one, someday. ;_;
It's really annoying that people are adding games that you could either get off Amazon for cheap, or steam for cheap, and have them run perfectly fine on xp/vista.
Or brand new games. It's pointless really.
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Gvaz: It's really annoying that people are adding games that you could either get off Amazon for cheap, or steam for cheap, and have them run perfectly fine on xp/vista.

and what if some people don't want to or cannot get it from steam or amazon? you probably don't know that, but amazon does not ship games to my country (and even if it would ship, i'd pay more for the international shipping costs than for the game). some people might prefer the DRM-free version from gog.com, don't rule that out.
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Gvaz: Or brand new games. It's pointless really.

well, these will get older someday ;). but really, don't forget that all the ideas go through the democratic mechanism of voting. you can be pretty sure that ridiculous games won't get many votes.
Post edited October 02, 2008 by KnifeySpooney
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Gvaz: It's really annoying that people are adding games that you could either get off Amazon for cheap, or steam for cheap, and have them run perfectly fine on xp/vista.
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KnifeySpooney: and what if some people don't want to or cannot get it from steam or amazon? you probably don't know that, but amazon does not ship games to my country (and even if it would ship, i'd pay more for the international shipping costs than for the game). some people might prefer the DRM-free version from gog.com, don't rule that out.
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Gvaz: Or brand new games. It's pointless really.

well, these will get older someday ;). but really, don't forget that all the ideas go through the democratic mechanism of voting. you can be pretty sure that ridiculous games won't get many votes.
you're right about not being able to get some games off of steam, and even then, some people don't even like steam, because it still does include drm.
And who knows, it's possible that if there is a large outcry to have X game, that's new put on the list, maybe the publisher will some how figure out a compromise....
The thing is that STEAM's DRM is probably the least intrusive DRM at the moment. The only problem with it, is that if you get VAC banded, you loses all the games that you have with your account. I only get games off STEAM that Valve have made, as they own STEAM, and all there games, whether or not you get them retail, will get locked in to STEAM anyway.
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bpops: Guys, it's just a list... All this talk about duplicates, games that aren't on PC, games that aren't old, etc. -- that's what the voting is for. Ridiculous games won't get votes, so it doesn't matter.

That's pretty much what I was trying to get at earlier as well, but everybody seems to want to come in and suggest 50 billion new features for the Wishlist.
I think they're all forgetting that this list is simply a crude tool to use for the Gog team to get a rough indication of what people want. It's not like we're voting for the presidential elections.
No doubt this post will not stop the silliness to follow: "ZOMG I found a duplicate!!! FIX IT GOG!1111" or "Can you make it so for each game in the list I can leave reviews, write summaries, cross reference with gamerankings.com, and send me an SMS if I try to vote for a game that I already own? I would also like to be able to customize the wording of the SMS, but if I have not specified a custom message the default SMS text should be 'lol. Can has cheezeburger?' Without this functionality, the Wishlist is useless Gog!!! Useless!"
Gog will become known the world over as the site with the best Wishlist in the world! (but no actual games).... I say we stop wasting their time with bs. suggestions and let them get on with the important stuff.
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Jagji56: The thing is that STEAM's DRM is probably the least intrusive DRM at the moment. The only problem with it, is that if you get VAC banded, you loses all the games that you have with your account. I only get games off STEAM that Valve have made, as they own STEAM, and all there games, whether or not you get them retail, will get locked in to STEAM anyway.

Yeah, but you still have to deal with Steam which is a little bit of a memory hog. And you're wrong, I've been banned from VAC before, and the only thing I lost was the ability to play multiplayer for a couple of months.