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InvisibleJim: GOGcom's community managers and CDProjektred's bending the knee to anti-consumer "journalists" and then blanking out their customers in favour of massaging the shoulders of the scum over in Resetera tells me everything I need to know.

1) GOG/CDPR do not value gamers
2) There are many toxic SJW members of staff in GOG/CDPR
3) Do not buy games on GOGcom
4) Steam is a more trustworthy place to buy games
I think it's best to not lump GOG and CDPR together. Yes they are owned by the same parent company but they work independently from one another.
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Linko90: Final warning on the matter. Directing attacks at people is not welcome here, be it users or staff. I've let this discussion flow, yet some of you are taking liberties.

Come on now, it's 22 pages in, be sensible about this and what you post.
There you are...

On a more serious note, GOG's stance on the matter is awkward to say the least, but not surprising at the same time.
All I can say is you need to think things through before acting.

And concerning moderation...Be vigilant, but don't overdo it. Lock threads if needs must, but don't delete them. Some people do bring up good points. I'm sure those interested in keeping it civil will act as such.
So what is the situation ?

I made free advertising for your Website from years.
Do not annoy you here or elsewhere.
Really wish that you expand, get bigger, free DRM and continue playing when downloading updates is Heaven.

And suddenly, I got insult from you.

I really wish to understand.

There was already a problem a few times ago if I remember, a negative post from your part about the President of united States in a discussion on Twitter without any reasons.
What is happening in this place?
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rebirth: a negative post from your part about the President of united States in a discussion on Twitter without any reasons.
They made a negative post about Vladimir Putin?
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Nadi: Oh which ones? ö.ö
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ashtonx: Well someone did come up with idea to go to resetera...
Where else are they going to go to kiss vg24/7's winker?

GOG got trolled HARD by RWS. He gave Konrad a hand grenade, knowing full well what would happen when it got posted on twitter by GOG's "PR" guy.

Seriously. It'd be impossible for him not to know. ;p
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PoppyAppletree: If you say so. Given that you and your raiding buddies downvoted all of the GOG regulars and upvoted anything you see as "pro-GG" I wouldn't call that much of a discussion. It's pretty obvious that you aren't here to have a conversation.
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MEITTI: These forums are not your little circlejerk, generally theres no reason to browse these forums because GOG is usually a good service with very little to complain about. Not much to discuss when everything runs smoothly. But when they do make a major mistake, people who use GOG can reasonably get concerned and provide feedback in GOGs own forums.

And I'm sure these forums were primarily meant for feedback, not for you and your buttbuddies to masturbate each other how "regulars" and "elite" you are. Also its pretty funny that you make fun of people complaining about this "caring too much", when you're one of the primary posters in every single thread about the subject. You seem to care an awful lot about this issue.

And it turns out GOGs PR-rep went to apologize to Resetera of all places, so at least we can now pinpoint who to blame for this screw-up.
Quite amusing that a comment talking about how people who don't care to get into the SJW vs GG nonsense are buttbuddies who masturbate each other is highly rated.

Having a number of people respond to that sort of homophobic nonsense by clicking on the "rate post" button doesn't really do a lot to disprove that the main readers of this topic at this point are a bunch of triggered nutbars with a particular agenda, who should be taken no more seriously than the occasional rad fem.

Oh, and what major mistake? Did the service crash? Are non-PC games no longer available? Is there going to be a nutty SJW type screening all new entries? Will we be seeing DRM all of a sudden? No, as it turns out, the "major mistake" is merely one of political correctness. How ironic is it that people who lambast SJWs for being nutty with their PC rules are in fact applying similar rules on a similar basis with just as much zeal?
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InvisibleJim: GOGcom's community managers and CDProjektred's bending the knee to anti-consumer "journalists" and then blanking out their customers in favour of massaging the shoulders of the scum over in Resetera tells me everything I need to know.

1) GOG/CDPR do not value gamers
2) There are many toxic SJW members of staff in GOG/CDPR
3) Do not buy games on GOGcom
4) Steam is a more trustworthy place to buy games
Kind of wrecked your comment with that point 4. If GOG goes belly up then all the games are DRM free, so by and large we lose nothing. A solution could be found where people keep access to all their stuff.

If Steam goes down, all your stuff there is subject to DRM, which means it all becomes inaccessible. We're already at a point where, if Valve wanted to, they could start to push costs of maintenance onto the users with a subscription fee and the users would not have a recourse. Pay up or lose access.

On top of that, there's the whole trading card bot farming nonsense, the scammers, and the loot gambling mechanics, all of which are de facto supported by Steam.

So no, Steam is not a more trustworthy place to buy games, and every game you buy on Steam gives them that much more potential leverage over you.

As for point 1, which digital distributor does more for gamers? Prices are fine, catalog is huge, service is stable, no DRM.

Point 2, why does that even begin to mater?

Point 3, why not? Who provides a better service?
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Graubert: This has to be one of the worst PR-stunts I've ever seen:
- talking about pro-gamergaters as an "abusive movement" on twitter
- talking about pro-gamergaters as a "wave of hate and abuse" on reddit
- going to Resetera of all places and posting an explanation there, while giving their own customers on the gog-forum the silent treatment.

I mean, GOGs PR seems completely oblivious of the whole gamergate-stuff. I didn't care about it for a long time too, but as a PR-person you should be sensitive about the topic; it's literally your job.
I suspect the explanation in actuality is that GOG doesn't give a toss about GG and just really doesn't want to be tied in with all that noise, particularly not by a hysterical segment of the gaming media that will take any opportunity to take potshots at them.

So while this whole thing is a complete non-issue as far as GOG is concerned, they're trying to push the message to the frenzied lot at Resetera that oh my gosh, they are so sorry, don't know what we were thinking, blah, blah.

Don't know if it will work, since these people are the way they are, but I guess there's a chance it might. I suspect GOG knows that too. And if they have a chance to keep the lid on this issue until something else catches the ire of the rabid wolfpack, well, wouldn't you take that chance too?

As for the gamergate-stuff, what it is in reality and how it started are not quite as important from a PR perspective as how it is generally perceived.
Like most I was disappointed in them removing the tweet. But it was only a joke so what ever. But apologizing for a harmless joke at the expense of game 'journalists' and then labeling GamerGate as a hate group? Yeah that doesn't sit well with me. Guess I have to buy Cyberpunk through Steam now (ugh).
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dhundahl: Is there going to be a nutty SJW type screening all new entries?
Probably, by going through resetera and twitter literally groveling at the hoofs of SJWs they've made that into a real possibility.

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dhundahl: So no, Steam is not a more trustworthy place to buy games, and every game you buy on Steam gives them that much more potential leverage over you.

Point 3, why not? Who provides a better service?
Right now Steam is definitely offering a better service, the difference in the library selection is abysmal, they don't cater to cultural marxists, they don't bother picking a side in politics agenda pushing, and heck, even if its users bearing the gross of the cost through excessive monetization, their service is stable with no signs of ever going down, at least not in a mid to long term.

It's actually beautiful in a poetic justice sort of way, with their terrible PR management, GOG made STEAM look good.

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Stop creating multiple successive posts for every reply you want to make, learn to use a forum ffs.
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dhundahl: Is there going to be a nutty SJW type screening all new entries?
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narmando: Probably, by going through resetera and twitter literally groveling at the hoofs of SJWs they've made that into a real possibility.

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dhundahl: So no, Steam is not a more trustworthy place to buy games, and every game you buy on Steam gives them that much more potential leverage over you.

Point 3, why not? Who provides a better service?
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narmando: Right now Steam is definitely offering a better service, the difference in the library selection is abysmal, they don't cater to cultural marxists, they don't bother picking a side in politics agenda pushing, and heck, even if its users bearing the gross of the cost through excessive monetization, their service is stable with no signs of ever going down, at least not in a mid to long term.

It's actually beautiful in a poetic justice sort of way, with their terrible PR management, GOG made STEAM look good.

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Stop creating multiple successive posts for every reply you want to make, learn to use a forum ffs.
The bolded part is what's potentially concerning to me, from appearances gog is moving in a bad direction, enough to keep an eye on their behaviour for other warning signs. It's a strange thing, a hobby trying to cater to people who want to destroy that hobby; but it's happening all over the place.
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dhundahl: Is there going to be a nutty SJW type screening all new entries?
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narmando: Probably, by going through resetera and twitter literally groveling at the hoofs of SJWs they've made that into a real possibility.

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dhundahl: So no, Steam is not a more trustworthy place to buy games, and every game you buy on Steam gives them that much more potential leverage over you.

Point 3, why not? Who provides a better service?
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narmando: Right now Steam is definitely offering a better service, the difference in the library selection is abysmal, they don't cater to cultural marxists, they don't bother picking a side in politics agenda pushing, and heck, even if its users bearing the gross of the cost through excessive monetization, their service is stable with no signs of ever going down, at least not in a mid to long term.

It's actually beautiful in a poetic justice sort of way, with their terrible PR management, GOG made STEAM look good.

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Stop creating multiple successive posts for every reply you want to make, learn to use a forum ffs.
Steam better then GOG!?
Is this a joke?!
I've rented a lot of games on steam but always online drm I just could not accept. I've lost hundreds of dollars since I terminated my steam account. Guess what! I get to keep my games purchased on GOG.

Ps. ffs if you want to troll be less obvious!
So how long has it been since GOG made a mockery of themselves and their customers?

Still no statement? Clarification? Apologies mean little to me but I'll go out on a limb and accept one. Nothing?

Okay. So the only statement Good Old Games has given so far is that they are sorry for offending the sojus mob and gamergate is an abusive movement.

The forum moderators care enough about this to keep a close watch on this thread and occasionally threaten censorship. So somebody at GOG is paying attention. Will someone please respond?

Is this really where GOG is going to let this stand?

So be it. I will be making no further purchases from GOG.com and I urge everyone to do the same.
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eVinceW21: So how long has it been since GOG made a mockery of themselves and their customers?

Still no statement? Clarification? Apologies mean little to me but I'll go out on a limb and accept one. Nothing?

Okay. So the only statement Good Old Games has given so far is that they are sorry for offending the sojus mob and gamergate is an abusive movement.

The forum moderators care enough about this to keep a close watch on this thread and occasionally threaten censorship. So somebody at GOG is paying attention. Will someone please respond?

Is this really where GOG is going to let this stand?

So be it. I will be making no further purchases from GOG.com and I urge everyone to do the same.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out - bai
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Shadowstalker16: I was gone for two days and there's already 20 pages? Funny to see SJW butthurt in full both on twitter and on this forum. Do you fucks never understand the concept of taking a joke?
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PoppyAppletree: It's funny that you think those 20 pages are SJW butthurt. If you skim through you'll see it's actually page after page of broflake raiders crying about a tweet being deleted.
Assuming gender is a crime. And why was a tweet forced to be deleted in the first place? Because moral gatekeepers like you got their feewings hurt by a mere fictional representation of an insult.
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Yeshu: It's the reverse here dude. People are disappointed that GOG bowed down to a game journalist hit peace that was a big pile of lies how there (GOG's) Twitter post was supporting minority abuse (which it wasn't).
Yeah it seems it was, I've been away from this place for too long. But tweets causing such a huge retarded backlash is sad, IMO.
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