oh really?

that's...interesting...

Votecount

babark: 2 (flubbucket, Dessimu)
drealmer7: 1 (babark)
Dessimu: 1 (lotsofchickenwings)
HijacK: 1 (CSPVG)
JMich: 1 (trentonlf)
No-Lynch: 1 (a4plz)

babark is closest to lynch at L-5

Do you also blame senility for the following?

[emphasis added]

How exactly does that work? As Bookwyrm627 pointed out, I'd say it's the exact opposite.

For me, normally, with 13 players, I'd be thinking the setup to be more likely 9v3v1 as opposed to 10v3. However, I don't think that'd (a neutral existing in this game) be the case with the win conditions in this setup, and so I think we're probably 10v3. To me that is town getting 1 extra than "normal" in a 13 player game in order to help balance town against evil's win condition (therefor giving town a bit more security than we'd have with 9.)

Do most players here think that most 13 player games are simply 10v3 and that I'm wrong with my "normal" being 9v3v1? Regardless, now you understand what I was saying. I hope.



Who wants to check out my new vote-count keeping method? It's in trial mode, and still being tweaked, but I like it so far:

1. HijacK - 1 - CSPVG (#6),
2. JMich - 1 - /Dessimu (#10, #12), trentonlf (#18),
3. flubbucket - 0 - /Dessimu (#38, #69),
4. HypersomniacLive - 0 -
5. Bookwyrm627 - 0 -
6. Dessimu - 1 - /cristigale (#32, #141), locw (#131),
7. CSPVG - 0 -
8. drealmer7 - 1 - /drealmer7 (#9, #67), /Dessimu (#12, #33), /bookwyrm (#20, #179), babark (#26),
/Dessimu (#69, 80)
9. cristigale - 0 - /Dessimu (#33),
10. lotsofchickenwings - 0 - /HSL (#16, #177), /Dessimu (#80, #143), /flubbucket (#120, #128),
11. a4plz - 0 -
12. babark - 2 - flubbucket (#128), dessimu (#143)
13. trentonlf - 0 -

NO LYNCH - 1 - a4plz

not voting - JMich, drealmer, wyrm, HSL, HijacK, cristigale

/ = removed vote
(#, #) = (first # is cast vote post , 2nd # is removed vote post)

I also have further notations of each vote and what I think the person's motivations were and/or stated motivations -

example: cristigale - #32 - vote Dessimu ("holdover from last game" RVS !)

! = I believe stated vote reason

It is confusing

If you want to keep this format of vote count, it would be damn smart to somehow distinguish the current people that have active votes on them. Like, maybe bolding their numbers (numbers of the list). And then...distinguish the player with most active votes (player, closest to lynch) even more. By bolding his list number and his name?

So that if I want to quickly skim through, I am easily reminded of who stands where.

And if you will keep on updating this kind of vote count, how big will it be after two RL weeks in the game? Three weeks? A chaotic mess of information, where you can easily make mistakes.

So I guess, it would be smarter to provide a shorter vote count of active votes. And if asked, provide the messy one in addition.

And I think this discussion is better suited for Administration thread, where non-current players can tell their ideas.

Where is babark?!

If there is a third-party, and only one at that, do you think anything in the OP would hint at their existence?



Agreed.


He was on earlier, but since D1 votes aren't really helpful, he decided there's nth else to do, so he's done with D1 altogether?


Vote babark

Are you willing to include a list of those who aren't currently voting?

Hijack, CSPVG, and Babark. Each of you please post at least one game-relevant observation about the setup and/or another player (either in relation to the setup or their game-relevant observation on another player). As an example, an observation about my and Dessimu's conversation regarding the familial ties between me and Drealmer would not meet this request, because that whole conversation wasn't really game relevant.

Everyone else has posted at least one observation, though some are really close to the "zero border". CSPVG is also close to the border, but he ultimately fell on the other side of it.

a4plz, you might be well served to do similarly.

10v3 seems to make sense to give town a bigger cushion to conceal the power roles. For that reason, I find it less likely we have a third party.

Official Prod

babark, please return to the game. Your last post reads 2 days ago.

* facepalm * Drealmer, you present you idea on HOW to make a vote count and then think I want to make you trouble? Don't use info from this game, present idea on another thread, get awesome recommendations. That is what I am aiming at.

I never really understood, what prod is or how does it work. Closest to my understanding is "warning" or "sanction". What is it? What happens, when player is prodded?

It's a reminder for the player to return to the game. If a player gets prodded and doesn't return, they will be replaced.