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Posted April 30, 2018
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Socratatus: It`s not often that I am accused of not being black. I was not even going to respond to such a retarded insult.

But I guess it suits some of you who cannot comprehend that a black man can think outside of his own world, that a black man can think from other points of view, not his own. You think black men are simple savages. So I can`t possibly be black.

I am now seeing a new, very dark side of these `progressive liberals` of today. You are the true racists. You see blacks as inferior, incapable of defending themselves or others.

Shame on those of you who think you can dare talk this way about a black man who expresses a concern. Racism, true racism, is alive and well today from you types. For shame.

p.s. And I am truly African-type black, not even mixed race, even though in your foolishness you won`t believe it.
And I'm the Pope... o.O
Posted April 30, 2018
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GreasyDogMeat: Be less insane.
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richlind33: Is that necessary?
To be fair, they did literally say that they can change reality just by saying that something is true. That is not the claim of an entirely sane person.

However they might have just been indoctrinated into destructive postmodernism nonsense and not have been exposed to rational ideas in their life, it might be better to be a little less mocking of those who cannot understand objective reality and be more explanatory.
Posted April 30, 2018
So it goes.
Post edited April 30, 2018 by tinyE
Posted April 30, 2018
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richlind33: Is that necessary?
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devoras: To be fair, they did literally say that they can change reality just by saying that something is true. That is not the claim of an entirely sane person.

However they might have just been indoctrinated into destructive postmodernism nonsense and not have been exposed to rational ideas in their life, it might be better to be a little less mocking of those who cannot understand objective reality and be more explanatory.
What she's saying is true re gender identity. So no, she's not insane.
Posted April 30, 2018
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devoras: However they might have just been indoctrinated into destructive postmodernism nonsense and not have been exposed to rational ideas in their life, it might be better to be a little less mocking of those who cannot understand objective reality and be more explanatory.
I doubt that you can reason with a person who thinks that characteristics of race or gender is a matter of how they describe themselves.
Posted April 30, 2018
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devoras: However they might have just been indoctrinated into destructive postmodernism nonsense and not have been exposed to rational ideas in their life, it might be better to be a little less mocking of those who cannot understand objective reality and be more explanatory.
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LootHunter: I doubt that you can reason with a person who thinks that characteristics of race or gender is a matter of how they describe themselves.
Gender is sometimes used to refer to sex, but the two are *not* synonymous.
Posted May 01, 2018
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LootHunter: I doubt that you can reason with a person who thinks that characteristics of race or gender is a matter of how they describe themselves.
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richlind33: Gender is sometimes used to refer to sex, but the two are *not* synonymous.
Gender IS synonim of biological sex. Any other definition of gender doesn't make sense. Also dtgreene argued with me about sex being defined by biology.
Post edited May 01, 2018 by LootHunter
Posted May 01, 2018
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Socratatus: Now i`m black, yep, brown of skin. As a kid I always worried about racism and took racism from some white kids, even some Indian kids. Although it really wasn`t that bad.

However, many of my greatest friends were white. Grew up with them, played games with them. I listened to martin Luther King and understood that racism is racism no matter what colour you are.

After playing battletech for a while now, I call battletech racist to WHITE people. Your mercenary team are all brown, black asian or a woman. No white man. the only way to get a white man is if you employ him as a Merc or make yourself white in the game.

Racism is racism. As a man of justice and fairness who has known racism this racism to whites sickens me and while Battletech as a tactical and strategy game is really good, the racism is really putting a bad taste in my mouth.

Devs, fix this you are being what you think you`re not- Racist. White men are Human too.

I had to write this; i`m sure it`ll be banned or deleted.
Nice troll.

Bit like implaying Black Panther is very racist.


Upon release, The Witcher 3 was farily criticized for sexism and lack of diversity by a source critical site. (Plus combat mechanics could be less saturating, IMO)


Your spiritual brothers had really a great difficulty accepting independent gaming journalism.

They attaced the reviewer because he mentioned sexim and lack of diversity.


One could have thought no black person, or an ottoman, or a hun, or a mongol, or EU citizen, or even WW2 nazi brutes ever have visited Poland.

Because CD Project purprortedly made TW3 upon release all white by an indisputable force of destiny - because they are a Polish developer, and therefore it's so ok.


Fits your narrative spot on, of course, but is not a great look for CD Project Red, actually.


You do realise they want global audience to buy their product, right?

I actually really enjoy either real - or maybe imagined - schadenfreude that CD Project Red had to implement Ofieri as response to that criticism.
Posted May 01, 2018
Damn, I`m away for a short while and my thread turns into a land of the wierd and surreal with people of very strange and questionable points of view about reality.
Posted May 01, 2018
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Socratatus: Damn, I`m away for a short while and my thread turns into a land of the wierd and surreal with people of very strange and questionable points of view about reality.
Plus, there was at least one rickroll.

Puts on cool dude sunglasses
Post edited May 01, 2018 by MobiusArcher
Posted May 01, 2018
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richlind33: Gender is sometimes used to refer to sex, but the two are *not* synonymous.
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LootHunter: Gender IS synonim of biological sex. Any other definition of gender doesn't make sense. Also dtgreene argued with me about sex being defined by biology.
You're mistaken. It has a range of meanings, and is most commonly used to denote grammatical categories pertaining to masculinity and femininity.
Posted May 01, 2018
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LootHunter: I doubt that you can reason with a person who thinks that characteristics of race or gender is a matter of how they describe themselves.
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richlind33: Gender is sometimes used to refer to sex, but the two are *not* synonymous.
You can use them interchangeably, and the secondary characteristics of gender is based on physical biology anyway. In dictionaries one of the definitions of gender listed is 'sex'. Trying to use them NOT interchangeably just muddies the language, that's part of the problem I have with the pronoun use in this game, and frankly society in general.

In this game you cannot pick what gender you ARE, only what gender you're CALLED. Consider two examples: In the first, you have someone who is biologically male that wants to be called 'he'. In the second, you have someone who is biologically female but wants to be called 'he'. In both instances the pronoun used is 'he', but they have different genders. The pronoun used to describe them is insufficient to determine what their actual physical gender is. I'd be okay, in the name of inclusivity, for them to be able to choose a different pronoun than their gender if they like.

What I'm not okay with is ignoring physical reality entirely for everyone, including those whose pronouns match their gender. You cannot make a character with a defined gender in this game, they force every character to have an ambiguous gender. It's insidiously subversive, and an attack on reason itself and objective reality.
Posted May 01, 2018
This guy's tinfoil hat collection must be amazing! :P
Posted May 01, 2018
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devoras: In this game you cannot pick what gender you ARE, only what gender you're CALLED.
Those two are actually the same thing, as it turns out. (Well, technically, it's what gender you prefer to be called, not necessarily the one you actually are called, that is the same as your gender.)
Posted May 01, 2018
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devoras: In this game you cannot pick what gender you ARE, only what gender you're CALLED.
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dtgreene: Those two are actually the same thing, as it turns out. (Well, technically, it's what gender you prefer to be called, not necessarily the one you actually are called, that is the same as your gender.)
They are not the same thing. There's a difference between calling someone what they want to be called out of respect, and saying that they literally are what they want to be called.

Calling a cat a car doesn't make that cat a car in reality, it just makes it a cat that you're calling a car. It's important to know the difference between an actual car, or a cat that you're calling a car, if you're going to be able to know what someone means when they say 'car'. Words have specific meanings.
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