I don't know.

Somehow I question the wisdom of using a pic of a half naked woman while sporting the login "bad fur day". :P

Kevin Smith represents everything I hate about modern Geekdom :P

And I don't care if that's even the correct word for it.

You ruined it now. :P I also had the title of southfur for awhile. :P

Wait a minute...

I'm afraid Suicide Squad is going to be a disaster now. Extensive reshoots to do a 180 on the movie's tone just to please the internet crowd is terrible idea. You know, good, bad, at least be faithful to your vision. I can respect that, even if I dislike the movie. Of course movies are just products now, it's all about marketing, focus groups etc. No one actually cares about artistic integrity.

I've got no problem with him being anything else. He has done some pretty great performances... in the past. The distant.. past.

But NOT.. BATMAN.


That movie was ALWAYS going to be a shitshow. SO glad they're going to destroy it further. Fanboi tears.

The Sad Affleck meme was the only bit of information I needed. Thank you, internet.

And knowing is half the battle. The other half is the money you saved.

So, I've finally seen it. Spoilers follow.

I liked it. A lot. I didn't love it like I loved Man of Steele (as I said before, that is in my top 5 superhero movies ever), but I still liked it. That the action scenes are fantastic is I think no surprise to anyone. Whether it's the car chase, the Batman vs Superman battle or the final fight with Doomsday, it's all great stuff. The cast, mostly, did a great job. Affleck's Bruce/Batman is superb, Gal Gadot proved herself as Wonder Woman (I loved her brief "now this is fun" smile while fighting Doomsday), Cavill and Amy Adams were obviously fine returning to the roles.

Luthor was the big problem. I liked the way he planned things. The way he played everyone. What he did was written well. How he did was the problem. The almost Jim Carrey-like performance was entirely wrong, Eisenberg was miscast, and the direction that was decided on for his role was a mistake. There is no way around it.

I liked the way the fight with Superman was handled- Batman wins, but only because of preparation, and because Superman wasn't really trying to take him out, and I liked how in the end it's the name Martha, the thought of his mother, and Superman's mother that makes him look at what he's doing, and what he has become. The older, damaged, somewhat lost Batman was the right decision, the only way a story like this could have worked I think, and I liked how in the end Superman actually made Batman a better man, one with a mission to get the super humans together. By the end, in my opinion, the movie actually earned the "Death of Superman" moment, despite this being only the second movie.

The only other problem I can think of is Batman's wanton destruction during the car chase and the "air attack", when he basically blasts everyone to kingdom come with bat-plane's machine guns. But let's face it- we've let Tim Burton get away with Batman killing, and barely even complained. It would be hypocritical to now cry "BETRAYAL!".

Now, before anyone goes apeshit- yes, there are leaps of logic and problems with the story here an there. I just don't think those are any more of an issue in almost any such blockbuster. There is a couple of things that I think might have been explained better, but at least the way I see it, it all works well enough for me to maintain my suspension of disbelief.

That's all for now, I had a long day. I might think of something more to say tomorrow. Final thoughts- I have no idea why this is so hated by the critics, when shit like Age of Ultron or Thor Dark World gets a passing grade. I really can't explain it with anything other than anti-DC bias. I hope the box office keeps being good, and the future DC movies will go ahead as planned.

Oh, and I'll just leave this here. An interesting article, well worth considering I think.

I quite liked how Batman was much more vigilante this time. He's always been a vigilante but he's never gone too far before. Makes you question if he's actually become as bad as the bad guys he's trying to fight, which is an interesting concept.

I wished it had a little more information on that suit in his batcave, with "Haha, the jokes on you Batman" written on it.

I want the DC universe to be successful, making $500 million in four days is certainly crushing the critics. There was a quote I can't find now, of a Warner Bros. executive saying how happy he is at the box office numbers and how reassuring that is for the DC Universe. :)

When it comes to that suit with haha written on it, I agree with the fan theory that this suit belonged to Robin before Joker killed him in reference to the comic book "The killing joke" where Batman has a mental breakdown and goes dark side.

Maybe the death of Robin made Batman so brutal and it haunts him for life.

Wasn't the killing joke about joker trying to break Jim Gordon?

You're thinking of Death in the Family and Lonely Place of Dying.

And yes, the Robin suit and the remark about "how many good guys are left". Are a clear indication of the Batman's current frame of mind and the reasons behind it. He's angry, he's furious underneath, he's more and more violant. He almost sees going against Superman, the impossible, as the only way left to let out tha fury, because just criminals isn't enough, he almost says that to Alfred. I almost go a feeling Bats has a deathwish, wants to die fighitng Superman. he never denies it, when Alfred says that it's suicide. Instead he starts talking about his legacy, being older than his father was when he died.

You know, while there definately are leaps of logic, probably even pltholes I have not fully realised yet, I think this is a rather a very intelligent movie, at least in it's handling of Batman and the conflict with Superman (and the change of heart, almost spiritual healing at the end). There is a lot of detail and dialogue that needs to be noticed, dug into and kept in mind if you really want to understand why the things that are going on are going on. And Affleck nails that angry, bitter, damaged Batman, just as he nails the disgust when he realises what he became, and the calm remorse, the need to do better from now on at the end of the movie.

I love the cognitive dissonance going on in this thread. Hilarious.

Whatever works. Foshizzle mynizzle.

Hell no! I don't know where on earth your nizzle has been! I ain't touching that!