Posted April 01, 2016

Bad Hair Day
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Elmofongo
It's 2L84U
Registered: Sep 2011
From Puerto Rico
Posted April 01, 2016

The second Suicide Squad trailer was super cool. If they are making it more like that would be excellent. They probably want to put more Batman in as well, because why not. More Batman just makes everything more awesome.
Rockin my new Wonder Woman avatar, uh huh.
And I don't care if that's even the correct word for it.

bad_fur_day1
Here they grow again
Registered: Oct 2013
From New Zealand

Breja
You're in my spot
Registered: Apr 2012
From Poland
Posted April 01, 2016
I'm afraid Suicide Squad is going to be a disaster now. Extensive reshoots to do a 180 on the movie's tone just to please the internet crowd is terrible idea. You know, good, bad, at least be faithful to your vision. I can respect that, even if I dislike the movie. Of course movies are just products now, it's all about marketing, focus groups etc. No one actually cares about artistic integrity.
Post edited April 01, 2016 by Breja

itchy01ca01
SLAYEEERRRR!!
Registered: Dec 2012
From Canada
Posted April 01, 2016


is
ben affleck
in a batman suit
could probably beat your fucking ass like he was the actual batman
so you know what? I'm just fine with Batfleck. I figured he'd be good. and he was good.
I also figured that Jesse Eisenberg would be good and he really wasn't though.
But NOT.. BATMAN.

Post edited April 01, 2016 by itchy01ca01

Emob78
jack and coke plz
Registered: Dec 2012
From United States
Posted April 01, 2016
The Sad Affleck meme was the only bit of information I needed. Thank you, internet.
And knowing is half the battle. The other half is the money you saved.
And knowing is half the battle. The other half is the money you saved.

Breja
You're in my spot
Registered: Apr 2012
From Poland
Posted April 02, 2016
So, I've finally seen it. Spoilers follow.
I liked it. A lot. I didn't love it like I loved Man of Steele (as I said before, that is in my top 5 superhero movies ever), but I still liked it. That the action scenes are fantastic is I think no surprise to anyone. Whether it's the car chase, the Batman vs Superman battle or the final fight with Doomsday, it's all great stuff. The cast, mostly, did a great job. Affleck's Bruce/Batman is superb, Gal Gadot proved herself as Wonder Woman (I loved her brief "now this is fun" smile while fighting Doomsday), Cavill and Amy Adams were obviously fine returning to the roles.
Luthor was the big problem. I liked the way he planned things. The way he played everyone. What he did was written well. How he did was the problem. The almost Jim Carrey-like performance was entirely wrong, Eisenberg was miscast, and the direction that was decided on for his role was a mistake. There is no way around it.
I liked the way the fight with Superman was handled- Batman wins, but only because of preparation, and because Superman wasn't really trying to take him out, and I liked how in the end it's the name Martha, the thought of his mother, and Superman's mother that makes him look at what he's doing, and what he has become. The older, damaged, somewhat lost Batman was the right decision, the only way a story like this could have worked I think, and I liked how in the end Superman actually made Batman a better man, one with a mission to get the super humans together. By the end, in my opinion, the movie actually earned the "Death of Superman" moment, despite this being only the second movie.
The only other problem I can think of is Batman's wanton destruction during the car chase and the "air attack", when he basically blasts everyone to kingdom come with bat-plane's machine guns. But let's face it- we've let Tim Burton get away with Batman killing, and barely even complained. It would be hypocritical to now cry "BETRAYAL!".
Now, before anyone goes apeshit- yes, there are leaps of logic and problems with the story here an there. I just don't think those are any more of an issue in almost any such blockbuster. There is a couple of things that I think might have been explained better, but at least the way I see it, it all works well enough for me to maintain my suspension of disbelief.
That's all for now, I had a long day. I might think of something more to say tomorrow. Final thoughts- I have no idea why this is so hated by the critics, when shit like Age of Ultron or Thor Dark World gets a passing grade. I really can't explain it with anything other than anti-DC bias. I hope the box office keeps being good, and the future DC movies will go ahead as planned.
Oh, and I'll just leave this here. An interesting article, well worth considering I think.
I liked it. A lot. I didn't love it like I loved Man of Steele (as I said before, that is in my top 5 superhero movies ever), but I still liked it. That the action scenes are fantastic is I think no surprise to anyone. Whether it's the car chase, the Batman vs Superman battle or the final fight with Doomsday, it's all great stuff. The cast, mostly, did a great job. Affleck's Bruce/Batman is superb, Gal Gadot proved herself as Wonder Woman (I loved her brief "now this is fun" smile while fighting Doomsday), Cavill and Amy Adams were obviously fine returning to the roles.
Luthor was the big problem. I liked the way he planned things. The way he played everyone. What he did was written well. How he did was the problem. The almost Jim Carrey-like performance was entirely wrong, Eisenberg was miscast, and the direction that was decided on for his role was a mistake. There is no way around it.
I liked the way the fight with Superman was handled- Batman wins, but only because of preparation, and because Superman wasn't really trying to take him out, and I liked how in the end it's the name Martha, the thought of his mother, and Superman's mother that makes him look at what he's doing, and what he has become. The older, damaged, somewhat lost Batman was the right decision, the only way a story like this could have worked I think, and I liked how in the end Superman actually made Batman a better man, one with a mission to get the super humans together. By the end, in my opinion, the movie actually earned the "Death of Superman" moment, despite this being only the second movie.
The only other problem I can think of is Batman's wanton destruction during the car chase and the "air attack", when he basically blasts everyone to kingdom come with bat-plane's machine guns. But let's face it- we've let Tim Burton get away with Batman killing, and barely even complained. It would be hypocritical to now cry "BETRAYAL!".
Now, before anyone goes apeshit- yes, there are leaps of logic and problems with the story here an there. I just don't think those are any more of an issue in almost any such blockbuster. There is a couple of things that I think might have been explained better, but at least the way I see it, it all works well enough for me to maintain my suspension of disbelief.
That's all for now, I had a long day. I might think of something more to say tomorrow. Final thoughts- I have no idea why this is so hated by the critics, when shit like Age of Ultron or Thor Dark World gets a passing grade. I really can't explain it with anything other than anti-DC bias. I hope the box office keeps being good, and the future DC movies will go ahead as planned.
Oh, and I'll just leave this here. An interesting article, well worth considering I think.
Post edited April 02, 2016 by Breja

bad_fur_day1
Here they grow again
Registered: Oct 2013
From New Zealand

sasuke12
Strigon the Drow Necromancer
Registered: Mar 2014
From Canada
Posted April 02, 2016

Maybe the death of Robin made Batman so brutal and it haunts him for life.

Hunter65536
New GOGlin
Registered: Apr 2014
From India
Posted April 02, 2016


Maybe the death of Robin made Batman so brutal and it haunts him for life.

Breja
You're in my spot
Registered: Apr 2012
From Poland
Posted April 02, 2016


Maybe the death of Robin made Batman so brutal and it haunts him for life.
And yes, the Robin suit and the remark about "how many good guys are left". Are a clear indication of the Batman's current frame of mind and the reasons behind it. He's angry, he's furious underneath, he's more and more violant. He almost sees going against Superman, the impossible, as the only way left to let out tha fury, because just criminals isn't enough, he almost says that to Alfred. I almost go a feeling Bats has a deathwish, wants to die fighitng Superman. he never denies it, when Alfred says that it's suicide. Instead he starts talking about his legacy, being older than his father was when he died.
You know, while there definately are leaps of logic, probably even pltholes I have not fully realised yet, I think this is a rather a very intelligent movie, at least in it's handling of Batman and the conflict with Superman (and the change of heart, almost spiritual healing at the end). There is a lot of detail and dialogue that needs to be noticed, dug into and kept in mind if you really want to understand why the things that are going on are going on. And Affleck nails that angry, bitter, damaged Batman, just as he nails the disgust when he realises what he became, and the calm remorse, the need to do better from now on at the end of the movie.
Post edited April 02, 2016 by Breja

itchy01ca01
SLAYEEERRRR!!
Registered: Dec 2012
From Canada
Posted April 02, 2016
I love the cognitive dissonance going on in this thread. Hilarious.

Bad Hair Day
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Registered: Dec 2012
From Other
Posted April 02, 2016
someone owns a 'word-a-day' calendar. :P

itchy01ca01
SLAYEEERRRR!!
Registered: Dec 2012
From Canada

P-E-S
I like games
Registered: Nov 2008
From United States