I recently am in a new run with a Malk, in plus patch. Am in Giovanni mansion, but with a low humanity, since i want the Sabbat ending (again). Problem is, the bastardized Giovanni offspring doesn't give me his dialogue option for learning his secret (that he is a bastard to Giovanni family line) to complete the sidequest (dirty dishes), unless i raise my humanity... Which costs precious XP. Which can be raised for free in the dancing bars, but i can't return back to the city and i didn't think to keep a previous save.

What's the deal? Is that supposed to happen? I knew different humanity values slightly change dialogues (especially those with your ghoul), but as far as i bothered myself to notice, this doesn't change the gameplay choices (at least those of ghoul). Why won't the dialogue line be available, unless i have a high humanity (needs 5)?

Also, inside Glaze, i got 0 humanity, because i finished off the bystanders. I thought i read somewhere in plus patch notes, that in combat zones, humanity is set to not drop below the lowest value achievable in hubs (which is 3, unless a quest choice dropped it further down)?

By the way, wasn't i supposed to get a "game over" at 0 humanity, now that i think about it? (wiki says something about Wight and Wa-something)

It's true. My humanity dropped to 0. I even clicked to level it up one point witn 0XP cost, too. I figured i should report that, just in case. Inside glaze. I thought reaching zero shouldn't be possible, or even i should get a game over or something... But didn't. Funniest thing, exactly that; raising humanity from 0 to 1, for 0 XP cost! I loled at that.

In the Plus Patch, just in case, if that isn't obvious already...

This issue is a problem on several maps, because the engine does not update the humanity on the level, only during transitions, so I'll remove some of these humanity hits that were plus patch additions anyway..