KiNgBrAdLeY7: Well, for those who own the physical retail version, or any other that by default is the 1.00 one, then i have a critical exploit to mention.

You start new game, choose clan and gender. after allocating the points, click on the character sheet that will take you back to choosing clan and gender, pick up again without fail, the same clan and gender. When you go to the point allocation page for a second time, you see the previous ones have been kept, and you have new ones to distribute. Going back and forth a few times, will have you with a FULL stats character, minus the Physical or Social tab, depending on which clan you are playing.

Then, as soon as you start near Jack, save your game, quit, patch your game to 1.2 (or whatever other patch it is you are using), and there you go... If you can still not recover from the fugly mess the 1.00 intro cutscene was, start a new character only to see the corrected, 1.2 one. Then load and play with your maxed, right from the beginning, character. This way you can explore ALL dialogue options, ALL quest possibilities/approaches, and if you prefer a clan that does not have any initial points to physical, you get a full powerhouse (blood buff temporarily maxes physical attributes).

Remember also, exposing Knox and Tung using you, gets you 2 xp, needs high persuasion, and is not a malkavian exclusive thing.

lordhoff: Cool! By Tung, I assume you mean Ming-Xau (probably misspelled) - you need high computer ability to expose her from one computer in the Fu Syndicate Building and high lock pick to get to it. Doesn't change what you are telling us, though. :)

KiNgBrAdLeY7: No, by Tung, i mean Bertram Tung, in Santa Monica, and Knox Harrington, his ghoul, you first meet outside hospital. I think you have to skip meeting him out of hospital, for this line to appear. But other than that, which i am not very sure of, you need high persuasion ability during his Asylum chat.

Ming Xhao, correct, one pc reveals being the mandarin's secret employer. In the room needing high lockpicking, and in which the melee skillbook is. Also, she kills Wong Ho, if you don't convince him to believe she is hiding something and could harm him (needs high persuasion). If you don't persuade him leaving chinatown (needs high persuasion and correct dialogue choices). A newspaper you find later says: "Prominent chinese leader daughterkilled". I seriously doubt Kiki, his daughter, did that, however cold and stupid she really was (during Kikidnapped you save her from the Tong). I bet Ming Xhao simply took her form and killed him, as she did with Nine's form and Alister Grout...