Do I need the Hythloth dungeon patch and/or the 1.01 patch if I install the VGA Upgrade or are those included in the VGA Upgrade?

Pix's Ultima Updater doesn't indicate that the 1.01 and Hythloth patches are part of the VGA upgrade in it's documentation.

I popped open Pix's Ultima Updater and I'm not seeing the fix in there. Haven't actually tried applying it and checking though.

I'll drop him an e-mail and let him know he should put it in. :)

EDIT: Link to the Hythloth patch; Link

The 1.01 and Hythloth patches are in Pix's Ultima Updater. At least they are in the version that I have. Just not with the VGA patch.

I forgot to specify I was using Pix's Updater. It has all of those patches separate, but installing the VGA patch seems to install the 1.01 patch too from what i've seen in the program files and the updater itself. The read me for the VGA also states that it fixes the .TLK files which 1.01 also does. I've tried testing it with and without the patch by talking to the NPCs that are supposed to be bugged, but there doesn't seem to be any difference unless i'm missing something or not talking to the right NPCs or asking them the right questions. Is there a sure way to tell if the patch works?

I seem to have found out that the 1.01 patch IS installed with the VGA patch by testing it talking to Shamino. Crap, now I feel like i've wasted everyone's time when I could have found it out myself. Apologies...

Seems a complete shame that the gog version doesn't have the hythloth fix by default. Here I am, mapping level 6 of the dungeon and having to surf the internet to figure out it's just a bug.

Yeah I know it's not necessarily GOG's fault, but it's still a shame.