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Posted December 14, 2013
So i finally have the party that I'm going to use for the rest of the game: The Avatar, Iolo, Shamino, Dupre, Spark, Jaana, Sentri and Tseramed.


But I want to know a way of efficiently leveling up my characters because I decided to do it at the Cyclops Cave in Cove, but those are difficult monsters. Always on of my characters ends up heavily wounded. All of my party members have training points but I barely have any gold to pay for training. If I could gather enough money to train my characters then I guess we would have an easier time with more difficult monsters.

So if anyone knows of a good way to earn both experience and gold, it would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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Posted December 14, 2013
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SummonerYuna: So i finally have the party that I'm going to use for the rest of the game: The Avatar, Iolo, Shamino, Dupre, Spark, Jaana, Sentri and Tseramed.

But I want to know a way of efficiently leveling up my characters because I decided to do it at the Cyclops Cave in Cove, but those are difficult monsters. Always on of my characters ends up heavily wounded. All of my party members have training points but I barely have any gold to pay for training. If I could gather enough money to train my characters then I guess we would have an easier time with more difficult monsters.

So if anyone knows of a good way to earn both experience and gold, it would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance!
There are a couple of bugs (or perhaps by design, but just reserved for those lucky enough to find them?) in the game you can exploit.

The first one is good for 100 EXP points per pop, and it's unlimited. Here's how it works: ask Batlin to join the Fellowship, but make sure your hands are full first. He'll want you to take a package to Minoc but you can't due to full hands. He'll say "Zounds!" and some other crap. So you drop one item from your hands, and talk to him again. He'll then give you the package and you get 100 EXP; put the package in a bag or your pack, and talk to him again. The 'package' option comes up again in conversation. Click it again, and he'll make like he's giving you the package but you already have it. Boom, 100 more experience. The bonus to all of this is that whatever item you dropped last that has a countable quantity (gold, reagents, arrows, etc) will be magically in your hands. I use this to stock myself up with reagents and magic arrows mostly. Note: depending on your version of the game, this trick may not work. Also, if I somehow mixed up this sequence, do a quick online search to see the proper steps.

The second one is to talk to the two pirates at Buccaneer's Den who are bickering (Mole and Blacktooth). Rectify things between them and you'll get 10 EXP. You can just keep talking to the one repeatedly to get that 10 EXP many times over. This one worked in both my versions of this game.

If you'd rather fight it out, maybe try south of Minoc for some headless; they're pretty easy and you can just walk back and forth to respawn them. Ditto for the giant scorpions north of Vesper.
Posted December 15, 2013
Sentri will train for free as long as he's in the party, and due to the way training works, he's the best in the game for Dexterity/Combat. (He trains for 1 point of Dexterity each time, but you get 1 free point of Combat each time your Dexterity increases, so it's a 6-for-3 deal with him.)
Posted December 17, 2013
If you join the Fellowship, the gambling hall in Bucaneer's Den gives you better rewards, but in particular the rat race will give you a payout of 6:1 for a winning bet. You may notice there are only 4 rats, which means as a Fellowship member, you can pretty much print money by betting 100 gold or more on every rat and no matter which one wins you'll make a profit.

If that feels to cheesy, then the dragons in Destard by Trinsic (the cave Batlin will send you to on a fool's errand) are the next best thing. Specifically their much less lethal counterparts, the green drakes. They will drop a ton of diamonds sometimes, and usually at least a moderate amount of them. Wander around Destard and kill them as long as you want. Whenever you're done and for whatever reason, go back to Britain and turn them in to the Jeweler there for a hefty sum of money. This technique will also generate a lot of experience for you.

You can also find about 1000 gold coins in a hidden chest under a tree south of Trinsic at coordinates 128S 3W as long as you can bash it open with your sword!

As for your training, the best tip I can offer is that intelligence is utterly useless to your companions and training it for them will be wasting your stats, and Sentri trains dexterity for free, so the best trainers will be the ones that increase Combat and/or Strength.

Also, if I remember correctly gaining a point in dexterity will level combat as well. Which means training with Sentri for free will cost 1 training point and increase combat by one point too.

Menion is my favorite trainer, but I'll list all the ones that don't train int/dex. You might want combat training specifically if you can't increase dex for some reason (companion is beyond what Sentri can teach, probably):

Menion in Serpent's Hold will turn 3 training points into 1 combat and 2 strength for 45 gold.

De Snel in Jhelom will turn 2 training points into 2 combat for 40 gold.

Penni in Yew will turn 2 training points into 1 combat and 1 strength for 35 gold.

Zaksam in Vesper will turn 3 training points into 2 combat and 1 strength for 45 gold.

Markus in Trinsic will turn 1 training point into 1 combat in Trinsic for 20 gold.
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