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Hi,

Does the installer still install Galaxy without option, and does anyone know if this will be optional in a future version?

Thanks
Rob
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Yes, it still install Galaxy by default.
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Ingsoc85: Yes, it still install Galaxy by default.
Thank you for confirming.
I'd imagine Galaxy may always be installed when the mutiplayer of a game is powered by Galaxy so that you have a complete game. However, you can successfully ignore it and not use it as there is a second shortcut in your GOG.com folder in the start menu to bypass Galaxy. They said it was optional to use, not install. It's pretty small anyway so it doesn't take up much space.
Post edited December 04, 2014 by BKGaming
I can´t really understand why are people complaining about this, as galaxy is what powers the multiplayer part of the game...
Mostly on a multiplayer based game as TWAG
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Ingsoc85: Yes, it still install Galaxy by default.
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nightcraw1er.488: Thank you for confirming.
You could however manually uninstall Galaxy and then launch the game via TheWitcherAdventureGame.exe (would skip the launcher and open the game directly) of course you wouldn't be able to play multiplayer games.
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odomi2: I can´t really understand why are people complaining about this, as galaxy is what powers the multiplayer part of the game...
Mostly on a multiplayer based game as TWAG
Well to clarify. I do not play multiplayer at all. Galaxy is supposed to be optional. Being installed as part of the game installer means a) the software is not just the game - hence could cause more issues, b) is not optional. Therefore if you start adding other software which I do not require into a product it becomes (at minimum anyway) what is know as bloatware, adding unnecessary things into a product. Yes, I can understand that some people do want the multiplayer option and I have nothing against that, however why not provide that as an *optional* separately downloadable component external from the game binary. This way you can download the latest version of the client independently of games etc. keeping it modular. Just like the GOG downloader is optional.
For instance, if the manuals are in PDF, should the game installer be installing Adobe behind the scenes, no, that is an optional component you can install whichever version separate from the product.
For the other point, yes I could manually uninstall it after it has all installed, but why should we have to do this. I pay to play a game, not to spend checking what else it has installed, clearing out references in registry, emptying temporary folders etc. needlessly.
There is also the other argument that once this is embedded into the software, it is then only a matter of time before its no longer noticed, and then there will be silent activations, and always on conncections etc. These simple facts are enough to ensure that I never, under any circumstances use steam or any other client software. So to see it appearing here with (what was promised as optional) default installation, albeit that it currently (and that may change) can be uninstalled after installation, is a very worrying trend. For this reason I am not purchasing AvP, and I have revoked my order for Witcher Adventure Game until such time as the components are separated. Its a real shame as was looking forward to WAG, however accepting things on that basis has already lead to the DRM mess which most are in nowadays.
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odomi2: I can´t really understand why are people complaining about this, as galaxy is what powers the multiplayer part of the game...
Mostly on a multiplayer based game as TWAG
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nightcraw1er.488: Well to clarify. I do not play multiplayer at all. Galaxy is supposed to be optional. Being installed as part of the game installer means a) the software is not just the game - hence could cause more issues, b) is not optional. Therefore if you start adding other software which I do not require into a product it becomes (at minimum anyway) what is know as bloatware, adding unnecessary things into a product. Yes, I can understand that some people do want the multiplayer option and I have nothing against that, however why not provide that as an *optional* separately downloadable component external from the game binary. This way you can download the latest version of the client independently of games etc. keeping it modular. Just like the GOG downloader is optional.
For instance, if the manuals are in PDF, should the game installer be installing Adobe behind the scenes, no, that is an optional component you can install whichever version separate from the product.
For the other point, yes I could manually uninstall it after it has all installed, but why should we have to do this. I pay to play a game, not to spend checking what else it has installed, clearing out references in registry, emptying temporary folders etc. needlessly.
There is also the other argument that once this is embedded into the software, it is then only a matter of time before its no longer noticed, and then there will be silent activations, and always on conncections etc. These simple facts are enough to ensure that I never, under any circumstances use steam or any other client software. So to see it appearing here with (what was promised as optional) default installation, albeit that it currently (and that may change) can be uninstalled after installation, is a very worrying trend. For this reason I am not purchasing AvP, and I have revoked my order for Witcher Adventure Game until such time as the components are separated. Its a real shame as was looking forward to WAG, however accepting things on that basis has already lead to the DRM mess which most are in nowadays.
mm..
while you are right in some points, sounds like a really small price to pay for free multiplayer support. And even being tricky it´s still optional as you can remove it later. It´s most probable that they will separate the game from the client (seems to me as a temporary solution since twag maybe was released before completely finishing galaxy?) I don´t know, but anyway I wouldn´t recommend you this game if you don´t want multiplayer AT ALL, since multiplayer is 50 to 75% of this game.

I think these guys deserve a vote of confidence in that matter. It´s not easy to implement online gaming, profiles, scores and all that while being DRM free, and optional. Looking good so far.
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nightcraw1er.488: Well to clarify. I do not play multiplayer at all. Galaxy is supposed to be optional. Being installed as part of the game installer means a) the software is not just the game - hence could cause more issues, b) is not optional. Therefore if you start adding other software which I do not require into a product it becomes (at minimum anyway) what is know as bloatware, adding unnecessary things into a product. Yes, I can understand that some people do want the multiplayer option and I have nothing against that, however why not provide that as an *optional* separately downloadable component external from the game binary. This way you can download the latest version of the client independently of games etc. keeping it modular. Just like the GOG downloader is optional.
For instance, if the manuals are in PDF, should the game installer be installing Adobe behind the scenes, no, that is an optional component you can install whichever version separate from the product.
For the other point, yes I could manually uninstall it after it has all installed, but why should we have to do this. I pay to play a game, not to spend checking what else it has installed, clearing out references in registry, emptying temporary folders etc. needlessly.
There is also the other argument that once this is embedded into the software, it is then only a matter of time before its no longer noticed, and then there will be silent activations, and always on conncections etc. These simple facts are enough to ensure that I never, under any circumstances use steam or any other client software. So to see it appearing here with (what was promised as optional) default installation, albeit that it currently (and that may change) can be uninstalled after installation, is a very worrying trend. For this reason I am not purchasing AvP, and I have revoked my order for Witcher Adventure Game until such time as the components are separated. Its a real shame as was looking forward to WAG, however accepting things on that basis has already lead to the DRM mess which most are in nowadays.
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odomi2: mm..
while you are right in some points, sounds like a really small price to pay for free multiplayer support. And even being tricky it´s still optional as you can remove it later. It´s most probable that they will separate the game from the client (seems to me as a temporary solution since twag maybe was released before completely finishing galaxy?) I don´t know, but anyway I wouldn´t recommend you this game if you don´t want multiplayer AT ALL, since multiplayer is 50 to 75% of this game.

I think these guys deserve a vote of confidence in that matter. It´s not easy to implement online gaming, profiles, scores and all that while being DRM free, and optional. Looking good so far.
Unfortunately its the small prices which trickle in over time which are the most worrying. Take the Xbone, there was outcry when M$ stated the situation up front. If they had taken a few months, eased it in then it would have (and probably still will) go through unnoticed.

Thanks for letting me know about the multiplayer content. Would be nice to have that kind of information on the game page.

Yes, I also hope Galaxy goes well for those people who want it.
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odomi2: mm..
while you are right in some points, sounds like a really small price to pay for free multiplayer support. And even being tricky it´s still optional as you can remove it later. It´s most probable that they will separate the game from the client (seems to me as a temporary solution since twag maybe was released before completely finishing galaxy?) I don´t know, but anyway I wouldn´t recommend you this game if you don´t want multiplayer AT ALL, since multiplayer is 50 to 75% of this game.

I think these guys deserve a vote of confidence in that matter. It´s not easy to implement online gaming, profiles, scores and all that while being DRM free, and optional. Looking good so far.
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nightcraw1er.488: Unfortunately its the small prices which trickle in over time which are the most worrying. Take the Xbone, there was outcry when M$ stated the situation up front. If they had taken a few months, eased it in then it would have (and probably still will) go through unnoticed.

Thanks for letting me know about the multiplayer content. Would be nice to have that kind of information on the game page.

Yes, I also hope Galaxy goes well for those people who want it.
Agree, but gog/cdprojekt seem to be the only ones fighting those issues, that´s why I said they deserve some confidence.

As for the game, it may fit yourself just fine, the single player works well, even though the AI could be better.
But it´s a board game after all, meant to be played with other players. That it´s more important if you want a challenging opponent.
I´ve played some single games myself, mostly for practicing, but I found it more enjoyable online.
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odomi2: I can´t really understand why are people complaining about this, as galaxy is what powers the multiplayer part of the game...
Mostly on a multiplayer based game as TWAG
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nightcraw1er.488: Well to clarify. I do not play multiplayer at all. Galaxy is supposed to be optional. Being installed as part of the game installer means a) the software is not just the game - hence could cause more issues, b) is not optional. Therefore if you start adding other software which I do not require into a product it becomes (at minimum anyway) what is know as bloatware, adding unnecessary things into a product. Yes, I can understand that some people do want the multiplayer option and I have nothing against that, however why not provide that as an *optional* separately downloadable component external from the game binary. This way you can download the latest version of the client independently of games etc. keeping it modular. Just like the GOG downloader is optional.
For instance, if the manuals are in PDF, should the game installer be installing Adobe behind the scenes, no, that is an optional component you can install whichever version separate from the product.
For the other point, yes I could manually uninstall it after it has all installed, but why should we have to do this. I pay to play a game, not to spend checking what else it has installed, clearing out references in registry, emptying temporary folders etc. needlessly.
There is also the other argument that once this is embedded into the software, it is then only a matter of time before its no longer noticed, and then there will be silent activations, and always on conncections etc. These simple facts are enough to ensure that I never, under any circumstances use steam or any other client software. So to see it appearing here with (what was promised as optional) default installation, albeit that it currently (and that may change) can be uninstalled after installation, is a very worrying trend. For this reason I am not purchasing AvP, and I have revoked my order for Witcher Adventure Game until such time as the components are separated. Its a real shame as was looking forward to WAG, however accepting things on that basis has already lead to the DRM mess which most are in nowadays.
So this was just posted in another thread, it looks like it's temporary until the official client is out. ;)

Hi Everyone,

I'd like to take a moment to clear up the situation. Yes, right now there are two games on GOG.com (The Witcher Adventure Game and Alien vs. Predator) that come bundled with our Galaxy Launcher application.

The reason behind this decision is that those two games use Galaxy multiplayer, and for it to work we need to provide a companion application to handle user authentication and auto-updating.

Eventually, those responsibilities will be handled by the Galaxy Client, which will be a separate, standalone and OPTIONAL application.

Once the Client is released, game installers will not bundle any additional launchers or other applications.

So the current situation (a launcher app bundled with your game installer) is only temporary, as we didn't want to provide the launcher as a separate download.

If you don't plan to play in multiplayer mode you can uninstall the launcher app and launch the game directly (the launcher is also optional, but it comes bundled with the game installer).
[url=http://www.gog.com/forum/general/games_that_use_gog_galaxy/post59 ]Link [/url]