Thanks. Any mentions on place where they are about to release numbers?

What it should give me? FPS remains the same, load on GPU is the same. .

"Almost constant 60FPS on Ultra" requirements were released rather late. I'm pretty sure CDPR were well aware of excessiveness of those requirements, yet they still published them.
And in fact game works on rigs that are lower than minimal requirements. Of course, it may be a sign of good optimization. But in same time it may be a sign of wilful misrepresentation, to convince people that game is real power-horse and needs really powerful rig, while in reality it does not. Like those "mandatory" 6Gb of RAM for COD:Ghosts or Vista for Halo 2.

Oh, they are so accurate I can run Witcher 3 on my old rig. /grin Not on ultra (unless I swap my old GPU for one from new rig), but it works, but not even on minimal. On 4 y.o. PC, that was bought before Witcher 2 release and wasn't top-tier even back then. It's not loaded at 100% either.

Mhm. Only these data gathered from monitoring load during several hours long sessions of normal gameplay, gathered throughout "marathon", from dream in Kaer Morhen till back to Kaer Morhen after "something ends, something begins". And these values were peak, average were lower. Not much, but still lower. So maybe there is collection of garbage (I had a lot of uncollected loot lying around, yeah /grin), but I found little to no difference in resources game used.
Also, according to Guru3D, Witcher 3 simply does not use more than 2Gb of VRAM. I did not check that out, but it would be within "Great system requirements overshoot", so to speak.

Gameworks or not, questions or rather exorbitant system requirements still remain.

There's a bit of controversy over the numbers. They're supposed to release them officially to all investors through a single channel first, which they said would be August. Some marketing or PR guy jumped the gun, and CDPR is looking at some 5M dollar fine now for talking about those sales. Basically, they broke the law. I hope the fine isn't too steep but its fair.

You're my favorite person here on the forums these days. I just had to say that. ;)

Really stuck on those requirements, huh? They kept TW3 as similar as possible across all 3 platforms for release. Considering the delays, it was the right move. Right now there's priorities for patches like quest fixes, gameplay. After that's all settled down, I wouldn't be too surprised if there weren't some patches for performance / graphics.

I play around a lot with the ini files. There's many ways to tank the performance and wish you had double the requirements. Some simple changes to shadows, or draw distance are some examples. There's memory budget settings and a whole host of other things. Some seem to be locked in currently. Might not always be the case.

I've read some discussions over said topic, but I'm under impression CDPR (through GoG) disclosed numbers of copies sold on GoG, that was the only info that "leaked". Though I'm not that familiar with relevant Polish/EU laws. Still, damn shame. I wonder what people on Polish demots are saying on subject.

Awww. Oh stop it, you.jpg. ;)

Snake? Where is Kojima? ;)

No objections here, I'm fine with that. I still do wonder why there was such an overshot, given final (as of now) post-release "downgrade" comment. I'm not a big fan of Rockstar, especially after their recent trick, but I'd rather take earlier lower, yet honest and actual system requirements with stating about possible increase due to improvements. Same goes for "downgrade", as I stated elsewhere.
As for graphical improvements, some mild could follow, I think 1.04 or 1.05 added areas of dust cloud/fog that weren't there before (unless those near-ground clouds are time or certain weather specific, but I surely haven't seen them earlier. But I seriously doubt we'll see a major overhaul, it could be a way too infeasible to do, given game's engine "streaming" nature, possible platform discrimination, even if we comprise roughly a third of all owners of W3 and vast majority of W1 and W2 owners combined, other two thirds may be unhappy we'd got something they didn't, plus this could raise voice of objection from consoles platform owners, and possible major discrepancy between quality gain and performance loss. Would be really happy to be wrong here, no sarcasm, I like Witcher series.

I play around with ini files a little now, but I did more earlier when I was more active member of modding community. So now I'm older, a bit lazier, and I want modern, easy approach to settings, without rocket surgery, one that would be easier to work with, especially if recent patch will fuck up all settings again. No, I don't blame CDPR, it's more "spherical in vacuum" remark, as patch may send earlier ini tweaks sideways.
So, while there is possibility of great improvements on the way to enhanced edition, as of now game has quite a few things to be desired. My humble opinion, of course. ;)

What your reffering to here is called Market Cannabilization, and yes Nvidia has started doing this of late to most of there GPU series to as you stated above promote sales of there latest cards, which frankley don't have much if any new tech instituted into the new GPU's themselves. For anyone whom disagrees I must reffer you to the source of the info, it's right from the horses mouth. That's right Nvidia states it clear as day. Though it is not stated on any of there marketing campaigns as that would be just stupid on thier behalf and they know that. Your direct refference and proof that this is undeniably true is in that section most of you never like to read, so those in question will actually have to read the change logs for the drivers, and yes read the whole thing, not only one you need to read starting from the change log at update 146, download every other driver up to the latest one, and read the change logs. In giving you this info before you agree and install those drivers they tell you exactly what they are doing in a round about way. That is not to say that it is debatable by any means, it is not, the info is clearly there. This is a tactic being implored by Nvidia currently because they still want you to buy there cards and they have no need to impliment new tech because frankley AMD has not offered them any real compition to fight for the supior GPU. And they know most of you aren't gonna read all the technical info. Most corperations believe you and me as the customers to be niave and just plain stupid or lazy. And they are correct for the majority, thus they have managed to do things like this and get away with it time and time again and it is proven to work. On an interesting side note, in some cases, this causes big companies to fail. In the late 90's 3dfx started using this same tactic of market cannabalizing due to having the cutting edge in graphics cards with basically no compition and ultimatly had to declare bankrupcy when Nvidia and AMD started working on new tech to compete. This could end up being a horrible mistake for Nvidia. Microsoft chose the AMD rout for there xbone and has secured DX12, it is also releasing one windows platform to rule them all in a month and is gonna be for the most part a free OS. Nvidia's gonna have to pull a rabbit out the hat now. I have a 780ti but i didn't update and it runs fine. Conclusion, giant corperations are nothing but blood sucking leaches, and if it saves them a buck most times you can bet they are gonna save that buck and pull strings, because there real policy is "F the customer"

link or at least quote it, or its bs. I remember their notes stating they were dropping support for Geforce 7000 series cards, which is completely different from GTX 700. Is that what you are referring to?

Have you paid any attention to the number of cuda cores and other specifications going from one generation to the next, or realize the 780 is the only card in that series that isn't a rebrand of the 600 series? Well, not including the 750 Ti. Have you given thought to the fact that TSMC has steadily improved the fabrication process of their chips, increasing efficiency?

Lastly, that block of text was really hard to read. Just hit 'enter' once in awhile when it feels like the subject changes. ;)

Actually the GTX 780 Ti has more CUDA cores than all of the 900 cards except the GTX 980 Ti. I here the reason for the awful performance from 700 cards is the tessellation. 900 cards are supposedly 3x better at tessellation. Hey man if you want proof of Nvidia fucking over consumers just visit their forums under the 700/600 series. Crony capitalism is what it is.

Oh I have. The problem is too many of them are paranoid and/or delusional. It's hard to wade through all of that to find real facts. The official response about any performance loss in the 700 series due to any driver version is that its a bug. Who am I to question that? I agree about the tessellation.

Nvidia's grand mistakes are Geforce Experience, and its user experience. It's default setting is to change game settings automatically whenever it downloads new profiles. It tries to do too many things, from streaming to shadowplay, etc. All that shit should be separate programs. An official post of theirs said the drivers have more lines of code than the windows operating system. Right there is the problem. They need to overhaul and just get back to a solid hardware driver, and not incorporate so much half assed software.

Lastly, look at all the goddamned software the average person has running, just for gaming. They might have overclocking / monitoring software, software for a mouse, a keyboard, audio, tons of stuff, but nobody lists off what is in their task manager when they vomit out a bunch of complaints, so I take them with a grain of salt.

There's known bugs with keyboard / mouse software that cause graphical glitches in game as an example. Too many variables, I keep the calm and cool headed approach and am not quick to cast blame.

AMD's new line up is mostly rebrands, but it looks they have a Titan X killer when overclocked, up to 4K resolution, so we'll see. Even their best will choke once you use up the 4K, but they have lesser cards that can be paired up to go higher. All at a lower cost. Nvidia should be scrambling to fix their software.

A good headline for AMD right now is "our latest graphics even work while browsing the internet, unlike....."

HAHAHA that last bit is too good/true Clonazepam!

Good call there , the simple point made is read the read me files, all of them from 146 up to present then argue the

real point from Nvidias own words. Or may I add there lawyers advise on how to go about adding the info for

liabilities.

Edited in

( Removing calling you a "Troll" because you probably havnt seen my original post explaining why I write as i do

The wall of text i tend to put down has a lot to do with medications and rare serious medical condition I have, so I

don't function as I once did to no fault of my own. It seems double spacing helps people, I'll try to remember that.

Just because there is no link does not invalidate a point there is a refferance. That arguement equates to this

argumentative statement. "Do you still need a parent to hold your hand when crossing the street?" So I don't accept

that logic, who knows I could throw a link up here and inadvertantly lead you to a virused site. That's very possible

because my home network has a nasty worm, that looks like a wartime bug at that, in it atm so I'd perfer not to infect

you or anyone else inadvertantly. I told you Nvidias drivers have readme's that you need to read through thouroughly

and that should be enough. The info is all scattered throughout the readmes there.)

NP. We're all gamers. We either are or should be medicated, depending on who you talk to. Hell, my board name is an antidepressant for a reason. It's a head up that I'm slightly "off". Actually, I did read your previous post on the subject, but it was awhile ago, and I didn't recognize the name / make the association.

I still don't see how that's a valid excuse for writing where you have all the time in the world to edit yourself. It is a valid reason for rambling in a live conversation. Believe, I know. ;)

I write a wall of text, and then go back and hit enter once in awhile when the idea / subject changes. I was being sincere in helping you communicate more effectively, not being a dick.

Anyway, if you want to convince someone of something, its on you to back up the claims with evidence. It's unacceptable to dump all the research on the person you are trying to convince. If you aren't willing to provide that evidence to back up your claims, then you have to be open to the possibility that nobody will believe you, dismiss you, and move on.

Lastly, even if it were true, I don't care. I upgrade several years apart, when I'm guaranteed to see at least a 100% improvement in performance. I'm too old to care about those 10% gains and losses that equate to a few more or less frames per second, that were most of the time already above an acceptable level. I'm not about chasing world record benchmark scores.

I do end up looking through my replies afterwards. As you see with the editing, Proof reading does help with lots of

run on sentance, and clashing idea's. I'm easily distracted :P. You see a lot of my train of thought in those post

which does lead to a bit of confusion.

I'm also incredibly lazy to boot. I hated English class, strangley enough I used to be reffered to as "The English

Guru." College nickname. Did terrible on the Essays, but somehow managed to make the Deans list. and a

3.9 GPA I'm not trying to be boisterous, I see myself as knowing nothing in the realm of things. Like that old saying

"The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing." - Socrates. Love that quote, it is so true. Todays truth in

human understanding will inevidibly be proven false by tomorrows Einstiens.

Math was my problematic, conventanal Algebra, I was never able to show the work so I

suffered greatly in Algebra. But Technical Math I excelled in strangly enough. My scores in that area got me an invite

on a Bosch Specailty team reconstructing things like scale to life models of Amelia Airhearts plane, and the first

Harley Davison as an example. I was 16 and quite stupid then lol (at 16 a male of course is more interested in the

opposite sex than wasting a summer a Bosch) biggest mistake of my life, made over women. The only thing that is

truely important to guys at that age. hahaha

I get where you are coming from and I agree the majority won't listen to me but that's ok maybe a few will.

I'm like you said to old lol, I'm only 35 but I feel like im 90, and just ready for it to all be over lmao.

Another old saying comes to mind.

“You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”.”
― John Lydgate

My last cpu, was a best buy specail. 500 bucks quad core 1.8ghz I replaced the PSU and baught the Sapphire HD

6870 1 ghz when it came out . Lasted 6 years before I saw need to upgrade. AMD truely isn't a bad card. I've had

both and I can't complain.

The current rig I built myself, Got a Full Tower Stryker Case, black edition OEM 9590 8 core 4.7Ghz turbo 5.0, Nepton

280L water cooling closed loop <--goes above and beyond needs for this insanly hot chip. I lucked out and got a

very nice chip, stabily OC's it to 5.8GHZ with not much effort manually, I didn't one button stage up and wouldn't

reccommend that. Even clocked it to 6.2GHz once. That being said I don't leave it OC'd and that is to preserve life,

there really is no need to OC with this rig if you value longevity.



Full specs here OS Windows 7 Ultimate sp1. Black edition 9590 as stated above, on ASUS Crosshair V Formula-Z

Modo, 16GB 8x8 G.Skill Ripjaws X at 1866 unlocked, 3GB SC EVGA GTX 780ti Enthusiast edition, 1200 to 1300watt

80+Gold PSU LG Bluray Writable drive, 2TB 700 Western Digital Storage drive, Samsung 850 pro 256 Gb SSD had

to replace the Kingston SSD because aforementioned Virus, didn't fix the problem, as problem is rooted with Access

0 within the UEFI bios, so very bad bug, gonna need a new Mobo. Ill probly just get a Rampage V11 and replace the

processor with an I7 5960X and some new ram 32GB 3000. I apologize for the long speal, I mean no disrespect

with my reply. I tend to snap off before I think sometimes please forgive me if I have done that. I don't ever feel

pleased with myself when I do that regardless the of the case. And have a good one.