Posted October 13, 2015
Have to agree.
The writing in W3 is way more clever than going for such childish innuendos.
The writing in W3 is way more clever than going for such childish innuendos.
RSColonel_131st
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Registered: Nov 2013
From United Kingdom
vladmods
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Registered: May 2015
From Romania
Posted October 14, 2015
I didn't even remember what Yennefer said in that particular scene, but I'm glad everything's all right. :-) It would have been very odd to change dialog lines.
Is 1.10 more playable now after the hotfixes? I've had bad luck with the initial update (bugs u.s.w.) and reverted to 1.084. :-/
Is 1.10 more playable now after the hotfixes? I've had bad luck with the initial update (bugs u.s.w.) and reverted to 1.084. :-/
Post edited October 14, 2015 by vladmods
Peetz
Witcher
Registered: Sep 2008
From Canada
Posted October 14, 2015
I dunno why many seem to be complaining, but there must be issues for some. My update was seamless and I find the game smoother and more fluid with 1.10. Note that it DID reset all my graphic settings, so I did have to redo the way I had it set up.
Post edited October 14, 2015 by Peetz
Qoaa
New User
Registered: Aug 2015
From United States
Posted October 14, 2015
I must be bad then...
I can't stop fingering my keyboard.
:P
I can't stop fingering my keyboard.
:P
Lukaszmik
New User
Registered: Jul 2011
From United States
Posted October 14, 2015
Really, anybody for whom "fingering" is an immediately sexual phrase is... silly.
I have spent many an hour fingering minors. Often in public places, and in mixed company.
See attached image.
I have spent many an hour fingering minors. Often in public places, and in mixed company.
See attached image.
Post edited October 14, 2015 by Lukaszmik
waltc
PPK, definitely
Registered: Oct 2010
From United States
Posted October 14, 2015
Most definitely. The game's English is generally excellent--however, every once in a blue moon there's a subtle exception to proper translation...like "fingering" in this case...;) Ah, to be a pubescent adolescent again and see sexual innuendo couched in every female utterance...! (Er, on second though...I'm kind of glad to be past all of that...;))
Lukaszmik
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Registered: Jul 2011
From United States
Posted October 14, 2015
I'd heartily disagree that there is a problem with translation or proper word use there. It is used in a perfectly, heh, "cromulent" way (i.e. with "to delicately touch something" meaning of "to finger.")
Though perhaps it's a generational gap. The Internet being for what it is, there might be a complete shift in definition of "fingering" for generations raised on it.
Now girrofmylawn :)
Though perhaps it's a generational gap. The Internet being for what it is, there might be a complete shift in definition of "fingering" for generations raised on it.
Now girrofmylawn :)
Hickory
Almost human
Registered: Dec 2010
From United Kingdom
fjdgshdkeavd
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Registered: May 2010
From United States
Posted October 14, 2015
Argh! Can't...not...argue!
This is why we can't have nice things. Someone puts an ounce of subtlety and ambiguity in a game's writing and you guys are all like "ew, gross."
I mean she's obviously not saying he's sexually pleasuring her toiletries, but think back to your gradebook literature classes and concepts of foreshadowing and metaphor.
-she's in her lingerie
-the context for the scene is that Geralt is trying to talk her into being sexually intimate, while she's trying to tell him to go away
-the whole sequence is Geralt's dream
This brief tidbit over the toiletries is not immature; instead, it's a subtle way of illustrating the dynamic in the scene WITHOUT being immature. It's hinting at Geralt's desire to touch Yen and Yen enforcing a boundary. Yen's not using the toiletries as a metaphor for her body, but the writer is (implicitly dandelion). The writer is aware that "fingering" has multiple meanings, even if the character Yen does not mean it as such
Consider, alternatively, the opening sequence in Romeo and Juliet, with "swords" and whatnot. There is a long history in art of using innuendo and subtle metaphor to gently communicate the context of a scene without being tasteless. I obviously didn't write the scene, but it takes more maturity to recognize the subtly in this scene than to say "ew, gross, fingering is nasty."
This is why we can't have nice things. Someone puts an ounce of subtlety and ambiguity in a game's writing and you guys are all like "ew, gross."
I mean she's obviously not saying he's sexually pleasuring her toiletries, but think back to your gradebook literature classes and concepts of foreshadowing and metaphor.
-she's in her lingerie
-the context for the scene is that Geralt is trying to talk her into being sexually intimate, while she's trying to tell him to go away
-the whole sequence is Geralt's dream
This brief tidbit over the toiletries is not immature; instead, it's a subtle way of illustrating the dynamic in the scene WITHOUT being immature. It's hinting at Geralt's desire to touch Yen and Yen enforcing a boundary. Yen's not using the toiletries as a metaphor for her body, but the writer is (implicitly dandelion). The writer is aware that "fingering" has multiple meanings, even if the character Yen does not mean it as such
Consider, alternatively, the opening sequence in Romeo and Juliet, with "swords" and whatnot. There is a long history in art of using innuendo and subtle metaphor to gently communicate the context of a scene without being tasteless. I obviously didn't write the scene, but it takes more maturity to recognize the subtly in this scene than to say "ew, gross, fingering is nasty."
Lukaszmik
New User
Registered: Jul 2011
From United States
Hickory
Almost human
Registered: Dec 2010
From United Kingdom
Posted October 14, 2015
[More misguided supposition cut].
On the contrary, it takes more maturity to recognise that there's more to a word, more to the language, than 'modern' sexual connotations. Fingering is a perfectly innocent word for a perfectly innocent activity. It doesn't have to be sexual, plain and simple.
On the contrary, it takes more maturity to recognise that there's more to a word, more to the language, than 'modern' sexual connotations. Fingering is a perfectly innocent word for a perfectly innocent activity. It doesn't have to be sexual, plain and simple.
Post edited October 14, 2015 by Hickory
UK_John
New User
Registered: Sep 2008
From United Kingdom
Posted October 15, 2015
This is why we can't have nice things. Someone puts an ounce of subtlety and ambiguity in a game's writing and you guys are all like "ew, gross."
I mean she's obviously not saying he's sexually pleasuring her toiletries, but think back to your gradebook literature classes and concepts of foreshadowing and metaphor.
-she's in her lingerie
-the context for the scene is that Geralt is trying to talk her into being sexually intimate, while she's trying to tell him to go away
-the whole sequence is Geralt's dream
This brief tidbit over the toiletries is not immature; instead, it's a subtle way of illustrating the dynamic in the scene WITHOUT being immature. It's hinting at Geralt's desire to touch Yen and Yen enforcing a boundary. Yen's not using the toiletries as a metaphor for her body, but the writer is (implicitly dandelion). The writer is aware that "fingering" has multiple meanings, even if the character Yen does not mean it as such
Consider, alternatively, the opening sequence in Romeo and Juliet, with "swords" and whatnot. There is a long history in art of using innuendo and subtle metaphor to gently communicate the context of a scene without being tasteless. I obviously didn't write the scene, but it takes more maturity to recognize the subtly in this scene than to say "ew, gross, fingering is nasty."
It was to the extent you could see the phrase as sexual and that one statement muffled, it made me think that censorship might be involved. Especially giving that that was the one statement that had be "muffled" and nothing else had a problem.
RSColonel_131st
New User
Registered: Nov 2013
From United Kingdom
Posted October 15, 2015
Yeah, they'll totally censor a word but leave topless sex scenes in the game...
Uhm, not.
Uhm, not.