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The Witcher 2Wanna beat The Witcher 2? Choose Swordsman skills(44 posts)(44 posts)
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Posted June 23, 2011
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UK_John: And as to that video he's not a Mage.
In hopes of convincing you that non-swordsmanship specialist can beat the game, here are 2 more videos:
1. aimless' 30-second massacre
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8MxNoZEcU4
2. An alchemist's run
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki1Gisu7FSQ
Posted June 23, 2011
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UK_John: And as to that video he's not a Mage.
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vAddicatedGamer: In hopes of convincing you that non-swordsmanship specialist can beat the game, here are 2 more videos:
1. aimless' 30-second massacre
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8MxNoZEcU4
2. An alchemist's run
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki1Gisu7FSQ
I watched that alchemists video, and I wish all You Tube boss fights had been done that way, showing potions used and weapons/armour worn, etc.

In any event, by watching the video and seeing so much armour, weapons and potions I never knew of, I wonder if it matters what road you take in the game. What items are found in the Roche Quests versus the Scoatel Quests!
Post edited June 23, 2011 by UK_John
Posted June 23, 2011
In act 3 the weapons are mostly the same. However to make the Zerriksomething silver sword (needs a dragonscale) you must kill the Operator for the scale on Roche's path, while on Iorveth's path you can obtain one in another manner.

The Ch2 differences are larger but I think in terms of overall gear quality not a big deal. On Roche's path you get better mage stuff early on, but Iorveth is better for Act3 as you get a nice armor upgrade. For swords I think honestly the Mysterious Merchant sells swords that are mostly as good as any you'll find on either path.

Once you get to Act3 though both swords and armor are replaceable by things you can get on either path.
Post edited June 23, 2011 by aimlessgun
Posted June 23, 2011
Oh wow ... I didn't even know you can beat the dragon with a sword ... I've always just used igni, even on my mainly sword build.

Anyhow, right now I'm playing an "ranger" ... where I'll do easy fights with swords, but anything else is done with bombs, traps, and throwing knives.
Haven't got to chapter 3 yet, but I'll be sure to record when I lob 20 odd poisoned harpy claws at the dragon.
Posted June 23, 2011
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UK_John: In any event, by watching the video and seeing so much armour, weapons and potions I never knew of, I wonder if it matters what road you take in the game. What items are found in the Roche Quests versus the Scoatel Quests!
Yup, that's why I was asking you if you have good gear (no offense was intended). It makes the job much easier.
Posted June 25, 2011
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UK_John: In any event, by watching the video and seeing so much armour, weapons and potions I never knew of, I wonder if it matters what road you take in the game. What items are found in the Roche Quests versus the Scoatel Quests!
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vAddicatedGamer: Yup, that's why I was asking you if you have good gear (no offense was intended). It makes the job much easier.
Don;t get me wrong. I had different gear, but it was equally as good. I was trying to say how a PARTICULAR sword or PARTICULAR potion is what makes the fight easier.
Post edited June 25, 2011 by UK_John
Posted June 25, 2011
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UK_John: Don;t get me wrong. I had different gear, but it was equally as good. I was trying to say how a PARTICULAR sword or PARTICULAR potion is what makes the fight easier.
If you have a top tier sword - Addan Deith, Deithwen, or Zerri (or something else that has slightly lower damage) it doesn't make much difference in that fight. Zerri (used in that video) doesn't offer any advantage vs dragon compared to the others.

As to potions, well, they are upgraded with Catalysis skill. Gadwall + swallow is pretty much staple in longer fights. But yeah, some potions would be less than useful in that fight.
Posted June 25, 2011
I have just started the second play through, Thought I had set it for easy, but discovered it was set to hard. Did have me wondering a bit why easy was so hard. Had a lot of dying and restarts along the way, but made it. As for the Dragon, First, I did concentrate on the Swordsman skills. That Dragon took a long time to beat and Quen was very handy for that. As long as I used quen, I didn't take a whole lot of damage. Biggest problem was I kept gettint ot of position and got squashed by the dragon when it landed on top of me. I took Iorveth's path the first time, now I'll try the other path. I also missed a few things, so will get them this time.
Posted June 27, 2011
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UK_John: Once again it would seem a developer is only interested in Warrior class! Bethesda with Oblivion gave you bows, but nowhere to get arrow, with even a specialist arrow shop only having half a dozen iron and steel arrows! Then you had Bioware with it's Dragon Age. Almost every DLC gave you, as a prize, heavy armour for the warrior class - never anything for the Mage or Rogue class!

Now we have CD Projekt Red that have given us a Dragon boss in the third chapter that you cannot beat it you put too many skill points into magic and alchemy and not enough into swordsman! I have seen two video's on You Tube and both that beat it first time had nearly all their points in their swordsman skill tree - going all the way to the top of that tree. Neither had hardly anything in the other skill trees.

So if you want to win this game and not give up in Chapter 3, like me, where I cannot beat the Dragon even on Easy, not even denting his vitality, because I put too many points in my magic, from early on start choosing swordsman skills.

Like so many RPG's, however much you want to play an RPG, it becomes an action game in the last 1/3 as the developers get lazy. It happened with Vampire: Bloodlines too.

I will look for God Mode mods or cheats to get past the Dragon, but even if they are out there, I resent having to use them just because of lazy-ass developers that are only interested in the first two thirds of RPG's!
I really have no idea how you haven't managed to kill the dragon even on easy difficulty.I have played already a game with my heavy magic build and just spammed igni throughout the fight.The fire breath the dragon did to me raised my hp instead of lowering it.I can say that I had a truck load of fire resistance and Fire runes on my gear.

To make stories short,Igni kills everything with boosted Sign Intensity.
Posted June 28, 2011
It's always entertaining to read about players who immediately start blaming the game designers when something proves difficult, rather than to look to their own shortcomings. Even after several witness accounts to the contrary, they are still hell-bent on blaming the game for their failings. Hilarious.
Post edited June 28, 2011 by Kindo
Posted June 28, 2011
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UK_John: Once again it would seem a developer is only interested in Warrior class! Bethesda with Oblivion gave you bows, but nowhere to get arrow, with even a specialist arrow shop only having half a dozen iron and steel arrows! Then you had Bioware with it's Dragon Age. Almost every DLC gave you, as a prize, heavy armour for the warrior class - never anything for the Mage or Rogue class!

Now we have CD Projekt Red that have given us a Dragon boss in the third chapter that you cannot beat it you put too many skill points into magic and alchemy and not enough into swordsman! I have seen two video's on You Tube and both that beat it first time had nearly all their points in their swordsman skill tree - going all the way to the top of that tree. Neither had hardly anything in the other skill trees.

So if you want to win this game and not give up in Chapter 3, like me, where I cannot beat the Dragon even on Easy, not even denting his vitality, because I put too many points in my magic, from early on start choosing swordsman skills.

Like so many RPG's, however much you want to play an RPG, it becomes an action game in the last 1/3 as the developers get lazy. It happened with Vampire: Bloodlines too.

I will look for God Mode mods or cheats to get past the Dragon, but even if they are out there, I resent having to use them just because of lazy-ass developers that are only interested in the first two thirds of RPG's!
So let me get this straight. Just because the dragon takes forever to whittle down with a sword means that they designed the game for the swordmanship tree? Yay, I don't think so. The overwhelming majority of the game favors sign users and bomb throwers because it rarely lets you fight anything one-on-one and the group managment skills the swordsmanship tree gives you are pretty much useless.

I have been trying to go pure swordsman on this game for awhile and it is most certaintly NOT pure-swordsman friendly. I always end up having to use bombs and signs whenever I am faced with more than three human opponents or more than two monster opponents.
Posted June 28, 2011
Funny part of this is that I finished the dragon faster with my heavy magic tree spamming Igni faster than with heavy attack on the dragon.

I killed Letho(first encounter) during a few seconds spamming Dancing Star/Grapeshot.He went down in under 30sec(this was from my current playthrough as alchemy/swordsmanship).

Keep in mind all of these were in normal difficulty though.
Posted November 12, 2011

As to potions, well, they are upgraded with Catalysis skill. Gadwall + swallow is pretty much staple in longer fights. But yeah, some potions would be less than useful in that fight.
I almost accidentally found that Virga + Catalysis 2 is an excellent combination for this fight, because it gives you such a high incineration resistance (over 300% with patch 2.0)

Having an incineration resistance over 100% seems to mean that fire heals you. I had a couple of fire runes applied to my silver sword anyway, chugged down a Virga, Rook, and Gadwall, and whenever the dragon manages to swipe you with it's claws, you bathe for a moment in it's fiery breath and enjoy the soothing deep heat treatment that heals all your wounds....
Posted November 13, 2011
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UK_John: Once again it would seem a developer is only interested in Warrior class! Bethesda with Oblivion gave you bows, but nowhere to get arrow, with even a specialist arrow shop only having half a dozen iron and steel arrows! Then you had Bioware with it's Dragon Age. Almost every DLC gave you, as a prize, heavy armour for the warrior class - never anything for the Mage or Rogue class!

Now we have CD Projekt Red that have given us a Dragon boss in the third chapter that you cannot beat it you put too many skill points into magic and alchemy and not enough into swordsman! I have seen two video's on You Tube and both that beat it first time had nearly all their points in their swordsman skill tree - going all the way to the top of that tree. Neither had hardly anything in the other skill trees.

So if you want to win this game and not give up in Chapter 3, like me, where I cannot beat the Dragon even on Easy, not even denting his vitality, because I put too many points in my magic, from early on start choosing swordsman skills.

Like so many RPG's, however much you want to play an RPG, it becomes an action game in the last 1/3 as the developers get lazy. It happened with Vampire: Bloodlines too.

I will look for God Mode mods or cheats to get past the Dragon, but even if they are out there, I resent having to use them just because of lazy-ass developers that are only interested in the first two thirds of RPG's!
Donno about that. I beat it on normal with a magic build. I had two points in swords (feetwork) ,1 point in alchemy (alchemist), the 6 mandatory points in the training tree, and everything else in magic.

For the first part of the dragon fight, i just stood at the top of the stairs and threw bombs at him till that part finished. His fire breath couldn't do diddly against my Quen -- or maybe it was my good armor ... whatever, he couldn't touch me. For the second part of the fight, I used up the rest of my bombs, which didn't kill him but did hurt him a little more; then I finished him off with my sword. I did have to reload a few times on the second part, but no more than on the Kayran fight.

I will say that if you want to just stand there in your undies and throw Igni at him, it'll be tough. My only use of magic in the fight was Quen. I went into the fight wearing the Armor of Ys, wielding Deithwen, and carrying 53 grapshot bombs.
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