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Ebon-Hawk: Canadian right?
Used to those BioWare "I Win Awesome Buttons"?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV97ozaD4vs
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Waltorious: Are you just trying to make a connection between Canada and Bioware? Because this could easily come off as you making fun of the OP for being Canadian, which would be in pretty poor taste.

Some people don't like games that are very difficult. Mocking them won't help... we need to explain why such games are so rewarding and encourage them to keep trying. The Witcher 2 can be very hard when you first start playing and are still learning the controls, but it gets easier and a lot more fun once you learn the way combat works. It would be a shame for the OP to give up before he or she reaches that point, and being met with derision on these forums for daring to complain about the difficulty in the beginning is only going to ensure that.

Fortunately, a lot of the posters here are genuinely trying to be helpful, and I hope they will be the ones to guide the discussion.
No I am not making a connection between BioWare and Canadians, I am sure there are many nice Canadians in the world, actually I like the place myself so much I would like to retire there.

What I am saying however that the posts like his are filled with sense of self entitlement.
The guy comes in to the forums, makes one post and moves on.

Now you may like this type of conversation, you may be even tolerant of it, I am not (call it my short coming). The problem here is that without a will and commitment to back up the conversation he is starting, he should not expect to be treated any different to how one would treat a troll.

Forum is a place where we exchange ideas and opinions (that should be informed) and not a place where we log on once to whine and move on. The game is not bad just because you are bad at it, you are bad at and that is that.

And yes, I have threw in BioWare reference to point out that their games have auto play mode now and if that is what people want from them that is all nice and good. You see I do not frequent the social.bioware.com to make unsupported claims and monologues about what I do not like and them disappear never to be seen again, all while claiming that regardless of what the community thinks of a product, it is a complete waste of XYZ dollars... and I expect the same from him.

Last but not least, I have one of those t-shirts that says "I survived Witcher 2 1.0" and I will certainly agree that the game back then was very hard. Now I am what you could say a very experience but casual gamer (been doing it for a long time but have little time to do it these days). And I would be the first one to say that if you do not like hard games, games without "win" button or games that treat you as a grown up, do not buy Witcher 2.

In the end, it is not what he said it is how he said it and most of all the title he has given to his post. His way of saying things is not a way that invites conversation, he states what he himself considers to be undisputed fact and moves on, all while putting the game down. His is what I consider wrong attitude where forums are concerned...
Post edited May 17, 2012 by Ebon-Hawk
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Ebon-Hawk: In the end, it is not what he said it is how he said it and most of all the title he has given to his post. His way of saying things is not a way that invites conversation, he states what he himself considers to be undisputed fact and moves on, all while putting the game down. His is what I consider wrong attitude where forums are concerned...
I completely understand your point here, I guess I just disagree about how to respond. I always try to engage and be helpful, even if the other party doesn't seem interested, because there's a small chance they might actually listen. I tried to encourage the OP to keep trying, but also acknowledged that The Witcher 2 isn't for everyone so the OP may end up deciding to drop it in the end anyway.

I guess your post just rubbed me the wrong way... I can understand why you were bothered by the OP's post but to respond that way just seems to be sinking to the same level. By contrast, your latest post is a much better response that offers legitimate criticism that I largely agree with.

Anyway, I apologize for being so harsh on your first post. I just personally believe that people like the OP are exactly those that we need to convince, especially if we want to see more games that offer a rewarding challenge like The Witcher 2. Sometimes these people will not engage in the discussion, but they definitely won't engage if we don't.
I agree the game is a bit hard for the casual gamer. What I use is a mod that raises my stats enough to give me a good chance. Not sure where it is as I got it from a link in this forum just after the game was launched.

I have not downloaded the EE version yet so I do not know if it works with the latest version. If it does not I will be also not playing it.

There was a thread early on after the game was launched where a few semi disabled people posted saying they liked to play games as that was one of the few things they could do. Quick time events for them were impossible. I hope when they make Witcher 3 that the easy mode is really easy, like a story mode so anyone can basically play it. My father now in his eighties plays a few games to keep his mind active. Mostly strategy games. If they made an easy mode in these type of games he would give them a go as well.

Why limit your sales to the young only when there are a lot of older people buying games these days, and they with a few exceptions will not be buying titles like this. Missed sales.

Cheers Markl
It does take some time to master the combat system.

But if all else fails, there is an "easy" difficulty setting.
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Ebon-Hawk: In the end, it is not what he said it is how he said it and most of all the title he has given to his post. His way of saying things is not a way that invites conversation, he states what he himself considers to be undisputed fact and moves on, all while putting the game down. His is what I consider wrong attitude where forums are concerned...
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Waltorious: I completely understand your point here, I guess I just disagree about how to respond. I always try to engage and be helpful, even if the other party doesn't seem interested, because there's a small chance they might actually listen. I tried to encourage the OP to keep trying, but also acknowledged that The Witcher 2 isn't for everyone so the OP may end up deciding to drop it in the end anyway.

I guess your post just rubbed me the wrong way... I can understand why you were bothered by the OP's post but to respond that way just seems to be sinking to the same level. By contrast, your latest post is a much better response that offers legitimate criticism that I largely agree with.

Anyway, I apologize for being so harsh on your first post. I just personally believe that people like the OP are exactly those that we need to convince, especially if we want to see more games that offer a rewarding challenge like The Witcher 2. Sometimes these people will not engage in the discussion, but they definitely won't engage if we don't.
If you are apologising for your comments then I should do the same and apologies for my initial post. It was meant to rub the OP the wrong way, but not anyone else.

Anyway, as you will notice the OPS have not returned here to be part of a discussion. And while I am glad to hear that there are people like you still around (those who try to engage and be helpful) I must admit I am too jaded where forums in general are concerned to be able to adopt such attitude without seriously trying...

I suppose you could call it one of my other shortcomings, on the other hand, "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me..." saying seem to apply here :)
I enjoy the challenge in this game but the boss fight are seriously a pain in the ass. Every single one of them has been frustrating so far.
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SpirlaStairs: I enjoy the challenge in this game but the boss fight are seriously a pain in the ass. Every single one of them has been frustrating so far.
The point is that if you ask 10 different people about what they find challenging you get 10 different answers with a description of 10 different playing styles. How do you write a game that satisfies majority of them?
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Ebon-Hawk: The point is that if you ask 10 different people about what they find challenging you get 10 different answers with a description of 10 different playing styles. How do you write a game that satisfies majority of them?
1.) Hire wizards as coders.

2.) Create a game so patronizingly simple that everyone finds satisfaction in talking about awful it is (also known as strategy B).

3.) Find a way to level the playing field and challenge everyone in a unique way. For example, most of us have hands. Forcing us to lop them off with a steak knife as a prerequisite to playing would mean that we'd all go in to the experience equally. It may sound crazy, but it's still less hassle than most DRM.

Anyway, I find OP to be an idiot. Not just any kind of idiot, but the special kind uniquely capable of drowning in a shower. Bitching on a forum rather than asking for help on that very forum is so mind-numbingly stupid that just thinking about it lowers my IQ. I don't care if it's not a nice thing to say; we have a search feature and an abundance of threads detailing strategies for dealing with just about anything in the entire game. Even for those who don't see the search button, there are plenty of people here and on the official forum willing to offer advice to suit any style of play. All it takes is to ask. Oh, and OP's completely unnecessary "used game" comment came across as exceptionally douche-y.
Yeah, starts off hard and ends up really easy, difficulty is a touch thing for an RPG, but considering W2 isn't open world I think more level scaled enemies would have been better. Still didn't ruin it for me
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227: 2.) Create a game so patronizingly simple that everyone finds satisfaction in talking about awful it is (also known as strategy B).
THE BARD: Saviors of Queens
This game is an ultimate answer towards all the players that always wanted easy, short and fun adventure. There's no violence, no complex storyline and definitely no morality. It's a really short game (no more than 2 hours of gameplay with autoplay feature on the easiest difficulty setting) that will not burden you with anything gameplay-related.

http://www.saviors-of-queens.com/index2.html
Post edited May 25, 2012 by Xandon
You're wrong about the dodging and blocking being useless. That is the only thing that will be keeping you alive, without it, you're screwed. Just get the hang of playing it, hit, dodge, igni, rinse and repeat until you get your own technique.
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Ebon-Hawk: The point is that if you ask 10 different people about what they find challenging you get 10 different answers with a description of 10 different playing styles. How do you write a game that satisfies majority of them?
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227: 1.) Hire wizards as coders.

2.) Create a game so patronizingly simple that everyone finds satisfaction in talking about awful it is (also known as strategy B).

3.) Find a way to level the playing field and challenge everyone in a unique way. For example, most of us have hands. Forcing us to lop them off with a steak knife as a prerequisite to playing would mean that we'd all go in to the experience equally. It may sound crazy, but it's still less hassle than most DRM.

Anyway, I find OP to be an idiot. Not just any kind of idiot, but the special kind uniquely capable of drowning in a shower. Bitching on a forum rather than asking for help on that very forum is so mind-numbingly stupid that just thinking about it lowers my IQ. I don't care if it's not a nice thing to say; we have a search feature and an abundance of threads detailing strategies for dealing with just about anything in the entire game. Even for those who don't see the search button, there are plenty of people here and on the official forum willing to offer advice to suit any style of play. All it takes is to ask. Oh, and OP's completely unnecessary "used game" comment came across as exceptionally douche-y.
I find myself short on any additional comments that could complement your post... :)
If difficulty is a problem for you when playing a game don't play it, don't bitch about it, admit you suck at life, and certainly don't go on some meta-critic like site and bash a game because of your own ineptitude. Have you never heard the saying that anything that is worth while is never easy. Sorry for the harshness but I am just really tired of whiners lately.
The main problem for me was the difference between playstyles from one game to the other. Also the tutorial seems to be more difficult than many of the following sections which seems discouraging.
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Wonzling: The main problem for me was the difference between playstyles from one game to the other. Also the tutorial seems to be more difficult than many of the following sections which seems discouraging.
Yeah they are night and day different. I would recommend most gamers starting on Normal difficulty for their first run of TW2, since its a pretty unique combat system.