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SystemShock7: Yep, Americans, from The Land of the Free, Home of The Brave, and the men and women who saved your asses back in the 1940s ... el oh el
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Shock2k11: Learn your history, Americans didn't save all the people during World War 2 it was different countries combined, thanks.

- Polska na zawsze :p
I wasn't talking about "all the people". I was replying to someone "From Italy", as it says under the avatar.. you know: The Italian Campaign, Patton, tanks, destroyers, and the fact that the Nazis didn't leave Italy until the US men, women, and war machine got involved... sure there were other allies involved, but without the US military might, it would've never happened...

And Buster, well, God Bless You :) It must be really hard to live in a place you hate.

And this concludes my "political" commentary. Maybe I should not have replied at all... too bad I can't delete it since it has already been quoted.
Post edited May 18, 2011 by SystemShock7
I love the automatic USA bashing. What a bunch of jerks. This is a gaming forum, not a misguided political view forum.
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Shock2k11: Learn your history, Americans didn't save all the people during World War 2 it was different countries combined, thanks.

- Polska na zawsze :p
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SystemShock7: I wasn't talking about "all the people". I was replying to someone "From Italy", as it says under the avatar.. you know: The Italian Campaign, Patton, tanks, destroyers, and the fact that the Nazis didn't leave Italy until the US men, women, and war machine got involved... sure there were other allies involved, but without the US military might, it would've never happened...

And Buster, well, God Bless You :) It must be really hard to live in a place you hate.

And this concludes my "political" commentary. Maybe I should not have replied at all... too bad I can't delete it since it has already been quoted.
He doesn't hate it, he just isn't brainwashed...... -)

Also, to answer the thread, no nudity can't be avoided except in the AU version of the game, where it is only a little avoided... -)
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DarknessGlow: I don't know about you, but I'd much rather have minors viewing a nude body than blood and violence. It just seems the better choice to have them understand that the male/female body is natural and isn't always sexual. Its easier to explain why two people are naked than it is to explain why one person is shoving a sword in someone else.
It is always sexual at least in my book.
I'm really not bashing, but isn't this like buying an album that clearly states explicit lyrics and then wanting to listen to it without the explicit lyrics? Sometimes there's no "clean" version released with said albums, same goes with this game, unless you live in Australia (and that's just because of their overbearing government).
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Shock2k11: Learn your history, Americans didn't save all the people during World War 2 it was different countries combined, thanks.

- Polska na zawsze :p
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SystemShock7: I wasn't talking about "all the people". I was replying to someone "From Italy", as it says under the avatar.. you know: The Italian Campaign, Patton, tanks, destroyers, and the fact that the Nazis didn't leave Italy until the US men, women, and war machine got involved... sure there were other allies involved, but without the US military might, it would've never happened...

And Buster, well, God Bless You :) It must be really hard to live in a place you hate.

And this concludes my "political" commentary. Maybe I should not have replied at all... too bad I can't delete it since it has already been quoted.
Without Russian people, that you learnt to HATE so much (tv, video games etc), all your "military might" would not stand against german army.
Post edited May 18, 2011 by Zeev
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SystemShock7: I wasn't talking about "all the people". I was replying to someone "From Italy", as it says under the avatar.. you know: The Italian Campaign, Patton, tanks, destroyers, and the fact that the Nazis didn't leave Italy until the US men, women, and war machine got involved... sure there were other allies involved, but without the US military might, it would've never happened...

And Buster, well, God Bless You :) It must be really hard to live in a place you hate.

And this concludes my "political" commentary. Maybe I should not have replied at all... too bad I can't delete it since it has already been quoted.
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Zeev: Without Russian people, that you learnt to HATE so much (tv, video games etc), all your "military might" would not stand against german army.
We are way off topic, but this is correct (I am American). The Soviet Union would have been screwed without the U.S., and the U.S. would have been screwed without the Soviet Union. We needed each other. Hitler's fatal mistake was deciding to wage a war on two fronts at once.
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winterforge: I'm really not bashing, but isn't this like buying an album that clearly states explicit lyrics and then wanting to listen to it without the explicit lyrics? Sometimes there's no "clean" version released with said albums, same goes with this game, unless you live in Australia (and that's just because of their overbearing government).
i thought the only thing censored in teh australian version was that there is ONE time in the game where as a reward you can chose sex. They removed that option or something because they didin't like the idea of sex being a reward or something

don't beleive they had anything against nudity, just the idea of sex as a reward.
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winterforge: I'm really not bashing, but isn't this like buying an album that clearly states explicit lyrics and then wanting to listen to it without the explicit lyrics? Sometimes there's no "clean" version released with said albums, same goes with this game, unless you live in Australia (and that's just because of their overbearing government).
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Hinscher: i thought the only thing censored in teh australian version was that there is ONE time in the game where as a reward you can chose sex. They removed that option or something because they didin't like the idea of sex being a reward or something

don't beleive they had anything against nudity, just the idea of sex as a reward.
Perhaps this is the case, but sex CAN be a reward. Do they edit all the movies too that show a girl attacking a guy sexually after he does something heroic for her and what not? That's reward sex I'd say lol.
Well I'm not all that far into the game. I imagine some of it you will be able to avoid but over all you are going to come across some. Deal with it and play the game or don't, nothing more to it than that.
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lenogden1: If I stay out of the brothels (just like real life), and not select secs acts, can I complete the game and avoid nudity?
I am not sure about the hate over this very simple question. There is no vitriol expressed, no screaming about disgusting nude bodies, just a simple question. I am sure the poster knows this is a mature game, and I am sure he or she knows there is nudity. But perhaps the poster enjoys the game and the story but is uncomfortable with the nudity. He or she will play anyway, but if there is a way to tone it down or avoid it, they wish to do so.

I suspect the answer is no, you can't completely avoid nudity, but you can minimize it. I know that in games like Dragon Age, you can turn off the persistent gore (and I always do, does that make me bad?), but nudity seems to me to be integral to the original graphics so a change would require a fairly major edit. I haven't played Witcher 2 yet as I am suffering from the Great Launcher Issue, but from what I recall of the first game, you did not need to pursue the sexual attentions of the various ladies in the game in order to complete it. You would miss out on very small aspects of the game, but overall the game did not require collecting sex cards. There were characters, such as the Dryad, who were nearly naked so nudity was not completely avoidable.

Just going by the first game, you can likely minimize nudity and safely avoid pursing sexual relations with the NPC's without effecting the main game arch. I suspect you can't avoid nudity all together.
While i still don't understand how the original poster can be "disturbed" by Triss's ass and not be disturbed by the cutscene where the king gets his throat cut, this thread now reminds me of [url=]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law[/url].
Just stop it. Grow up. Everyone has different tastes. It was a perfectly reasonable request that I am sure will be fixed by a mod, once the tool set is released.
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torp: While i still don't understand how the original poster can be "disturbed" by Triss's ass and not be disturbed by the cutscene where the king gets his throat cut, this thread now reminds me of [url=]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law[/url].
The poster did not say he or she was disturbed by Triss's ass and they did not say that they were not disturbed by the king having his throat cut. It was just a simple question.
The Witcher 2 is a Role Playing Game, which makes a very large selling point the morally ambiguous choices throughout the game. If you can choose one faction or another, or one kind of magic or another why not choose whether you encounter nudity, casual sex, or anything else like that. Every other RPG I've played with nudity or sexual content let you choose that role, or not.

Some people will choose such things because they're pervy, or they want to wank, or because they like tasteful artistic nudity. Some people will choose not to do such things because they don't want to cheapen sex, objectify women, or have their mom peep over there shoulder. There are valid and invalid reasons either way, but in a role playing game where choice is a selling point shouldn't we get to choose?

I am disappointed that the choice is not available in this game like it was in the first game so I won't be playing it.