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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClhDyC0ZECs

Looks like Microsoft is handling the publishing duties and will be XBox PC exclusive.
Thanks for posting. Grilling corporate culture was part of the last game. This title is going to be so anti-establishment that it's roasting itself. Loved the first game, looking forward to this one.
And then people criticise the Epic game store, when consoles have been doing this crap since the dawn of time... :/
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Nephilim88: And then people criticise the Epic game store, when consoles have been doing this crap since the dawn of time... :/
Umm... Epic has gone a step further by making games their own storefront exclusively.

At least I can a bit understand that games are restricted to a platform. But even platform-bonded games get a port. Keep in mind that making a port from one platform to another sometimes take a LOT of work. Epic does not have to port anything, but simply locks the game into their store, sometimes for more than a year. That's a whole other can of worms.

At least games that where running on another platform (like the PS3/4) get a port. That involves a lot of work and has a certain risk for the developers involved. And often the final version includes all DLC's and extra stuff (example: Horizon Zero Dawn). In short - Yes the users of another platform have to wait, but it's not that the games would run on a PC anyway..

Epic does not have to port anything, has no risks involved, but simply keeps the games behind lock and key. That's an whole different thing. They have a working version that runs on the PC platform, but they simply snatch it away for themselves, and refuse other storefronts that working game. Personally I think they deserve all the criticism they get for that behavior.
Post edited June 25, 2021 by JClosed
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Nephilim88: And then people criticise the Epic game store, when consoles have been doing this crap since the dawn of time... :/
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JClosed: Umm... Epic has gone a step further by making games their own storefront exclusively.

At least I can a bit understand that games are restricted to a platform. But even platform-bonded games get a port. Keep in mind that making a port from one platform to another sometimes take a LOT of work. Epic does not have to port anything, but simply locks the game into their store, sometimes for more than a year. That's a whole other can of worms.

At least games that where running on another platform (like the PS3/4) get a port. That involves a lot of work and has a certain risk for the developers involved. And often the final version includes all DLC's and extra stuff (example: Horizon Zero Dawn). In short - Yes the users of another platform have to wait, but it's not that the games would run on a PC anyway..

Epic does not have to port anything, has no risks involved, but simply keeps the games behind lock and key. That's an whole different thing. They have a working version that runs on the PC platform, but they simply snatch it away for themselves, and refuse other storefronts that working game. Personally I think they deserve all the criticism they get for that behavior.
I don't know, it all looks like the same mechanism to me. Not even all games on Steam get released on all clients, and the same happens for games on GOG.
And no, not ALL console games get a port. I can think of a whole load of examples.
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JClosed: Umm... Epic has gone a step further by making games their own storefront exclusively.

At least I can a bit understand that games are restricted to a platform. But even platform-bonded games get a port. Keep in mind that making a port from one platform to another sometimes take a LOT of work. Epic does not have to port anything, but simply locks the game into their store, sometimes for more than a year. That's a whole other can of worms.

At least games that where running on another platform (like the PS3/4) get a port. That involves a lot of work and has a certain risk for the developers involved. And often the final version includes all DLC's and extra stuff (example: Horizon Zero Dawn). In short - Yes the users of another platform have to wait, but it's not that the games would run on a PC anyway..

Epic does not have to port anything, has no risks involved, but simply keeps the games behind lock and key. That's an whole different thing. They have a working version that runs on the PC platform, but they simply snatch it away for themselves, and refuse other storefronts that working game. Personally I think they deserve all the criticism they get for that behavior.
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Nephilim88: I don't know, it all looks like the same mechanism to me. Not even all games on Steam get released on all clients, and the same happens for games on GOG.
And no, not ALL console games get a port. I can think of a whole load of examples.
The BIG difference is that both Steam and GOG do not demand the games to be released on their store front exclusively. Publishers/developers that are on Steam/GOG and want to release their game on another store front are completely free to do so. With Epic it's a whole other story. Epic prohibits the publishing of (big name) games on any other store front than their own. In effect, these games are hold hostage on the Epic store front, while Steam and GOG give full freedom. That's the BIG difference!
Oh - And by the way - I never said ALL console games get a port. I don't know how you get the impression I did say that, but you are surely overreacting here. I said that not all console games are locked to the platform. But what they DO need is the porting process before they can run on the PC. Not all console titles get that port, because it's a long and expensive process. Not all games are portable, of are not expecting to sell good enough to cover the cost of porting. In those cases porting will not happen. And sure - There are some exclusive titles, but there are not that much honestly. The latest trend is to release games on multiple platforms and store fronts at the same time (or almost the same time), (unless, of course, they are published on the Epic store front).
Post edited July 11, 2021 by JClosed