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I am curious to try this game, but I would prefer not to get it if there are strong sexual themes in it. Consider me a bit squeamish in that respect.
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James175: I am curious to try this game, but I would prefer not to get it if there are strong sexual themes in it. Consider me a bit squeamish in that respect.
There is murder, blood, gore, cannibalism, suicide, what looked like was going to shape up into an attempted rape but turned out to be a good old fashioned attempt at murder, and more fun for all the family.

I honestly think that if you are squeamish, then sexuality is the least of your concerns with regard to this game.

If you are ok with the other stuff but are really that concerned about sexuality, then I sadly cannot help without any margin for error barring more detail as to what exactly pushes your squick button. If you are asking if there are any exploitative sex scenes, then you won't be offended; if the very idea of realizing that women do indeed have things referred to as "breasts", then I shake my head and regretfully inform you that the you will probably hate it for the 1 or 2 times this revelation is brought up.

Look, all sarcasm aside, I get that people have different tolerance levels for stuff, but let me draw upon a moment from the opening in order for me to make a point.

*SPOILERS*

After a dream sequence with the imagery than a Silent Hill game (if not more, depending on which entry you are using as a reference point), the character tries to push a button that is in a recess in the wall. It takes some doing, and the doing takes her arm. No, really; upon pressing the button, her arm is severed, at which point her eyes go wider than saucers and her mouth hangs open in a position corresponding to a scream (which she thankfully never utters). After that point, the character becomes playable, with her spare hand clasped to her stump in the vain hope of keeping herself from bleeding all over the place and her face transformed into a living manifestation of pure and total suffering and terror, every move contorting her face and making blood spray like a not quite dying fountain.

This is before the opening credits are shown. This bit sets the tone for the entire game, insofar as it is horrifying, violent, and depressing as Marvin from the Hitchhiker's Guide on a really shitty day. I almost fainted when I realized that this game was made in the UK, as the sheer level of violence and is at a level that is almost a perfect embodiment of a Hollywood horror film in a game; I was eventually forced to retract that judgement when I realized that the violence was actually being used in a non-exploitative manner (for the most part), and that an American production company would throw a fit about a bare breast being seen on screen, much less on a character that was not the epitome of conventional Western attractiveness in a manner that was not blatantly done for the purpose of titillation.

The game is so close to me stamping it with a warning saying "PURE NIGHTMARE FUEL" based on stuff before I were even to start considering sex as a factor in that analysis (which, admittedly, I don't).

And it is quite possibly one of the better point and click adventure games I have played in the last few years.

For that matter, its shortcut is a new entry in my folder of games I can whip out whenever someone tries to argue that games are Z grade schlock with crap stories that could never be misconstrued as being art.

There are no stupidly complex inventory puzzles requiring you to trek to the other side of a city in order to get that one item you need to solve the puzzle that could have easily been solved in just about any other way by a person with a working brain stem, as all puzzles require the player use the materials on hand in an isolated location. I can count the puzzles that had me stuck due to their questionable logic on one finger (and for that puzzle, I assure you that you would have no difficulty in guessing which finger I raise in its commemoration). The characters are well written and as close to likable as they can get in a story in which the protagonist has attempted to commit suicide in the opening of the game; true, I found myself getting frustrated by the fact that the actually "gameplay" aspect of this adventure game felt a little neglected in comparison to the sheer amount of time devoted to fleshing out the narrative, but the writing kept me intrigued.

Yes, the game has two things that seem to be QTEs that require the player to hold a button to continue the game (since, as far as I can tell, there is no way to fail them), yes the game's ending is determined by an action that occurs late in the game which does not seem to have any consequences in context before making the decision, two things that personally disappoint me about modern gaming, but those are two sprinkles of ash on an otherwise well grilled metaphor steak.

But yes. There are boobs. For all of up to 30 seconds elapsed time in a game that kept me riveted to my chair for hours. If your tolerance level is so low that you can't play the game as a result of that fact, then I feel secure in saying that it is entirely your loss. I wish you a good day, and I hope that you choose to give The Cat Lady a try.
Post edited April 07, 2013 by Jonesy89
There are a couple of places where there are some implied sexual themes, but it's not over the top explicit (certainly not to the extent the violence is). The only section that jumps to mind is one where it is heavily implied that something sexual and not consensual might be about to happen, but there isn't much of note on screen (the scene in question quickly becomes more about violence and jealousy than about sex). Also some of the "parasites" (killers) could been seen to have a sexual component to their motivation. This might bother you if the mental state behind someone who is capable of forcing themselves on another human being (and any number of other types of violence) isn't something you want to be exposed to. There's nothing pornographic though. IMO the M rating is for strong violence, heavy gore, cannibalism, subject matter related to suicide/depression, death/disease, insanity, torture, mutilation, bad thing happens to a child, mental illness/physical disability, animal cruelty etc.

Long story short it's not completely free of sexual references but I very much doubt that's where the M rating comes from.

Oh right, and there was that very brief section where the female character was topless... I don't know if you want to count that as sex or nudity though.In any event very brief.
Post edited April 07, 2013 by echock89
I really enjoyed Silent Hill 1 - 3 and from the description this sounds similar.

Jonesy89, different people get squeamish about different things. I do not feel comfortable with gratuitous sexual violence against women. In regards to general nudity I would rather not get drawn into the wonderful world of pornography and I can see that happening and would like to avoid it just as some people have a problem with alcohol and avoid that. I hope you can understand and respect that.

After reading the two responses I will try and give the demo a try first.
Post edited April 08, 2013 by James175
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James175: I really enjoyed Silent Hill 1 - 3 and from the description this sounds similar.

Jonesy89, different people get squeamish about different things. I do not feel comfortable with gratuitous sexual violence against women. In regards to general nudity I would rather not get drawn into the wonderful world of pornography and I can see that happening and would like to avoid it just as some people have a problem with alcohol and avoid that. I hope you can understand and respect that.

After reading the two responses I will try and give the demo a try first.
I do respect it, don't get me wrong; hell, after the PR debacle of the Tomb Raider prequel supposedly containing an attempted rape scene so that the player will want to protect Lara (because rape is apparently the go to plot point whenever a woman needs to be in danger for so many writers for some dumb reason), I could have raged about the treatment of female protagonists in art (not just vidoegames, mind) forever at the slightest provocation. That said, given how much of the game's M rating is attributed to many more things that are far more prevalent, I found the inquiry a little baffling. I get not wanting to deal with nudity that feels pornographic, albeit not because it squicks me, but because I feel like my intelligence is being insulted when a game uses sex in a titillating manner in order to keep me interested in a game, as if it buys into the notion that gamers are undersexed losers who can be won over with the odd flash of tits. The nudity that does exist is...

Well, let me put it this way. Remember Watchmen, specifically the character of Doctor Manhatten? In the original graphic novel, the character is naked, showing that he is so divorced from everyone around him that even the idea of clothing seems meaningless, but it is not treated like a big deal by the writer and artist; there are no panels that are framed to give a spectacular view of the guy's junk, nor is said junk drawn to be either so large as to be comical or as a source of titillation. If anything, it almost echoes the sensibilities of Greek statues; the nudity is treated as a simple fact of man's existence, nothing more, nothing less.

In the American version, shots seem deliberately framed to throw as much of the now uber-sized blue wang which jiggles in such a way that it is hard to not imagine someone walking in on the film partway through and mistaking it for a bizarre porn (a notion that the poor acting would likely be unable to disabuse them of).

The nudity is very much akin to the latter; it's not really that explicit, and even if it can be said to be explicit, it is not exploitative or insulting pandering to some hypothetical teenager that the designer of such tripe seems to think is the only one of consequence who would be interested in their product.
Post edited April 08, 2013 by Jonesy89
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Jonesy89: Yes, the game has two things that seem to be QTEs that require the player to hold a button to continue the game (since, as far as I can tell, there is no way to fail them), yes the game's ending is determined by an action that occurs late in the game which does not seem to have any consequences in context before making the decision, two things that personally disappoint me about modern gaming, but those are two sprinkles of ash on an otherwise well grilled metaphor steak.
There is one hidden ending. One you work for from the very first chapter. It's a miracle, and miracles can't happen just like that - you need to use all your detective skill to make them happen.
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Jonesy89: But yes. There are boobs. For all of up to 30 seconds elapsed time in a game that kept me riveted to my chair for hours. If your tolerance level is so low that you can't play the game as a result of that fact, then I feel secure in saying that it is entirely your loss. I wish you a good day, and I hope that you choose to give The Cat Lady a try.
Actually, I think there is more shots of woman breast, but only one of those can be taken as 'sexy' by any sane person (and by that I mean Susan taking a batch). Other instances are: naked corpse or naked obese woman being tortured.
And one dialog suggests sexual violence. Nothing really happens, but it's still pretty disturbing.
Oh right, I had forgotten that some of the corpses or torture victims did not always appear as clothed. Probably because my mind didn't register that as having anything to do with sex. Thanks for the clarification Novotnus.