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Thank you for releasing on gog!!!

Just this :)
I appreciate this coming here, as well. I've been following and enjoying it since before its Steam release and got it there quite some time ago, as well.

I notice the Pro DLC isn't here, however. Is that something we can expect, eventually?
I concur. Greatly appreciative of the GOG release. Purchase made.
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GalacticKnight: I appreciate this coming here, as well. I've been following and enjoying it since before its Steam release and got it there quite some time ago, as well.

I notice the Pro DLC isn't here, however. Is that something we can expect, eventually?
Unfortunately there are limitations that prevent Pro from coming to GOG for the foreseeable future.
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GalacticKnight: I appreciate this coming here, as well. I've been following and enjoying it since before its Steam release and got it there quite some time ago, as well.

I notice the Pro DLC isn't here, however. Is that something we can expect, eventually?
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harbingerdawn: Unfortunately there are limitations that prevent Pro from coming to GOG for the foreseeable future.
I'll hope for the future, then! Until then, I'm just glad to see the base program here.
Before buying, I would love to try an updated demo first. The screenshots and video look gorgeous, and I really like the concept behind the game. However, I just tried the 0980 beta demo that's still available on the developer's website, and it was horrific. Bad controls, low-quality graphics, no instructions, etc. Anyhow, I assume that things have improved since then, which would seem to justify the release of a newer demo that showcases the improvements. In any case, perhaps I'll take another look at this once it gets out of its rather long "in development" stage.
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rex_butler: Before buying, I would love to try an updated demo first. The screenshots and video look gorgeous, and I really like the concept behind the game. However, I just tried the 0980 beta demo that's still available on the developer's website, and it was horrific. Bad controls, low-quality graphics, no instructions, etc. Anyhow, I assume that things have improved since then, which would seem to justify the release of a newer demo that showcases the improvements. In any case, perhaps I'll take another look at this once it gets out of its rather long "in development" stage.
We've wanted to make a demo for a while, but haven't had the development resources to do so. That might change in the near future. If you found 0.980 "horrific" though, I'm not sure you'd be in love with the current version. It's improved in a lot of ways, but it's not fundamentally different. As an aside, 0.980 is not intended as a demo, it was just the last version that we released before moving to Steam.

If you can give more details about what exactly you disliked most about 0.980, I can tell you what's changed between then and now.
Does this run on Win 7?

Ok, I can clearly read that Windows 10 is a requirement, and I understand that the game won't get any support on older OSes, but I've played other games requiring 10 on 7 (e.g. Gamedec), so...

...does this run on 7?

Thanks.
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theMole4: Does this run on Win 7?

Ok, I can clearly read that Windows 10 is a requirement, and I understand that the game won't get any support on older OSes, but I've played other games requiring 10 on 7 (e.g. Gamedec), so...

...does this run on 7?

Thanks.
Yes, it should run just fine on 7, it will just have a couple more issues that were fixed in newer graphics drivers which are only available on Win 10.
No way, do not run it on 7, folks. This game will crash your system to death. The dev must include the warning that this product is literally dangerous.
Post edited December 07, 2022 by hohohocrapdetector
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hohohocrapdetector: No way, do not run it on 7, folks. This game will crash your system to death. The dev must include the warning that this product is literally dangerous.
SpaceEngine is not "literally dangerous", nor is the software by itself capable of causing a PC to crash. If your computer crashed, it's because of an underlying problem in the operating system, graphics drivers, or hardware, which SE happened to trigger. On an OS that hasn't been supported or received driver updates in years, modern software is all the more likely to cause issues, which is precisely why we don't list deprecated operating systems as supported by our software.
Post edited December 14, 2022 by harbingerdawn
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harbingerdawn: SpaceEngine is not "literally dangerous", nor is the software by itself capable of causing a PC to crash. If your computer crashed, it's because of an underlying problem in the operating system, graphics drivers, or hardware, which SE happened to trigger. On an OS that hasn't been supported or received driver updates in years, modern software is all the more likely to cause issues, which is precisely why we don't list deprecated operating systems as supported by our software.
Space Engine is "literally dangerous" for the users of specific hardware and driver versions, it's an objective reality. Does the software bear no blame for triggering the issue? I don't agree with the subjective opinion. The software's older version, 0.9.8.0, reportedly does not cause such big issues; The modern software's direction does bear some blame for what happened (not whole, partial). Both parties are to blame for how interact with each other.

I am, myself, on the driver from 2021 for a very good reason, be it on 7 or 10, and I will never and do not intend to change it because of one odd game from the entire catalog. Do have zero BSoDs so far, no issues on testing a huge amount of games that are in over 90% of time falsely claiming to be Windows 10 only. Installing modern drivers causes stuttering and bugs start to haunt me because that just what AMD did to my GPU. Why is it not accounted in your words at all? Instead of outting and outright abandoning people and making potential fans concerned, could be like all the 75.44% of 2022 games (97.64% do play well) and do offer some sort of support for the said system.

Alternatively may repeat what some developers did, like "The Riftbreaker," put a giant "No to you" for Windows 7 users, preset a pop up "This system is not supported" closing the game. The list of products that did that is 4 for the entire store, this will make Space Engine, like we say in out native language, "not normal" & "a white crow."
Post edited December 22, 2022 by SilentBleppassin
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SilentBleppassin: Space Engine is "literally dangerous" for the users of specific hardware and driver versions, it's an objective reality. Does the software bear no blame for triggering the issue? I don't agree with the subjective opinion. The software's older version, 0.9.8.0, reportedly does not cause such big issues; The modern software's direction does bear some blame for what happened (not whole, partial). Both parties are to blame for how interact with each other.
It is not dangerous, and that is not an opinion. The ONLY things internal to the system – short of intentional malice on the part of a programmer – that can cause damage to a PC are faulty hardware, faulty firmware, or faulty drivers. There is no instruction that a program like SE can send to a healthy and functioning system that can damage it, that is not how it works.

What you are suggesting is analogous to someone with obstructed arteries having a heart attack after being startled, and saying that whatever startled them is at least equally responsible for their heart attack. That completely ignores the fact that the underlying problem already existed, and was ready to be triggered by any number of unrelated potential stimuli. That stimulus is not the root cause of the issue, it is merely a trigger, and says nothing about what the problem actually is.
 
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SilentBleppassin: Alternatively may repeat what some developers did, like "The Riftbreaker," put a giant "No to you" for Windows 7 users, preset a pop up "This system is not supported" closing the game.
The latest update does exactly that, though it gives users the choice of whether to continue with trying to run the program since freedom of choice is important. The notice is there to allow the user to make an informed decision.
Post edited December 22, 2022 by harbingerdawn
Your definition of "dangerous" is intentionally disformed to exclude yourself out. "Dangerous" is, on an SSD/HDD system, a sudden shutdown caused by a BSoD, that can result in corruption. When anything in the system has triggered the condition, it's cast dangerous. That's my objective measurements from before Space Engine existed that do not cast anything off nor have any likes towards anything human, sentient or artificial, no matter what or who.

Medical analogies, atypical. When one knows starling a person is dangerous, was notified, and has done so, the responsibility is in full force. Your engine is self-written, no way out of the argument; Be your engine a 3rd party, you could use "You should blame bad Unity programmers, I just put the assets, nothing else."

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harbingerdawn: The latest update does exactly that, though it gives users the choice of whether to continue with trying to run the program since freedom of choice is important. The notice is there to allow the user to make an informed decision.
What are you doing?! You already "informed" a user in the "screw you" way by not including the system, now you are going more overreach. What it "informs" a user is of doing a refund, perhaps, or go full arrrgh. Is it what you want, less money? Do you value "freedom of choice," then why are you so stubborn to the point of purposely limiting our very freedoms of choosing on what OS to be and play games, on not testing Windows 7 nor supporting it like the vast majority of all the developers in the whole world do??? This does not go well from any point of view.

Do you indeed do not understand it is crazy not normal? You are in the shameful group of 0.11% from all the GOG products that do such a popup and/or block, 99.89% do not do, that's how not normal this is, a not "great" achievement for the release. The proper grounded solution would be to blocklist the 21.4.1 version (or others proven to misbehave too badly) on any system, for instance. All what you achieved by that is no new ally, no recommend, widely less customers, less money, and a thumbs down.

A great release is not.
Post edited December 26, 2022 by SilentBleppassin