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After buying these DOS games I go to put them in my own games folder and set them up in my own DosBox, and I find that there seems to be no "setup.exe" or similar in the game installation.
Most all DOS games came with these, which allowed you to set up different soundcards and such. And from my Googling it appears the SQ games did have these. I'd like to be able to change the config to use something besides SB16 if I choose.
Is there is a good reason WHY these files were stripped from the GOG release? I'd like to know, as I can see no end-user benefit in doing so, and since this makes the original game install system un-accessible it makes it impossible to change the game defaults. I don't want GOG monkeying with the contents of the original game if it isn't a question of compatibility. That's like something Steam would do.
Post edited February 11, 2010 by phanboy4
This question / problem has been solved by Collectorimage
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phanboy4: After buying these DOS games I go to put them in my own games folder and set them up in my own DosBox, and I find that there seems to be no "setup.exe" or similar in the game installation.
Most all DOS games came with these, which allowed you to set up different soundcards and such. And from my Googling it appears the SQ games did have these. I'd like to be able to change the config to use something besides SB16 if I choose.
Is there is a good reason WHY these files were stripped from the GOG release? I'd like to know, as I can see no end-user benefit in doing so, and since this makes the original game install system un-accessible it makes it impossible to change the game defaults. I don't want GOG monkeying with the contents of the original game if it isn't a question of compatibility. That's like something Steam would do.

Sierra's adventures had an "install.exe". Any chances You have those there?
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phanboy4: After buying these DOS games I go to put them in my own games folder and set them up in my own DosBox, and I find that there seems to be no "setup.exe" or similar in the game installation.
Most all DOS games came with these, which allowed you to set up different soundcards and such. And from my Googling it appears the SQ games did have these. I'd like to be able to change the config to use something besides SB16 if I choose.
Is there is a good reason WHY these files were stripped from the GOG release? I'd like to know, as I can see no end-user benefit in doing so, and since this makes the original game install system un-accessible it makes it impossible to change the game defaults. I don't want GOG monkeying with the contents of the original game if it isn't a question of compatibility. That's like something Steam would do.
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Arteveld: Sierra's adventures had an "install.exe". Any chances You have those there?

Nope, I checked for that. Not there.
Oh, it that case, You should notify the GoG people, i guess.
I want to have control over the game settings too. [as soon as i buy them....]
Or maybe they'll take a look here.. ;P
I wonder if GK had the install.exe, since GoG released the "enhanced" version, with hires objects, which really doesn't look nice, and can only be changed in the setup utility, by choosing a different video card.
I didn't buy the pack, but it sounds like the GOG version has the same problem as the 2006 compilation pack (which didn't come with all the original files either). Bummer.
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phanboy4: After buying these DOS games I go to put them in my own games folder and set them up in my own DosBox, and I find that there seems to be no "setup.exe" or similar in the game installation.
Most all DOS games came with these, which allowed you to set up different soundcards and such. And from my Googling it appears the SQ games did have these. I'd like to be able to change the config to use something besides SB16 if I choose.
Is there is a good reason WHY these files were stripped from the GOG release? I'd like to know, as I can see no end-user benefit in doing so, and since this makes the original game install system un-accessible it makes it impossible to change the game defaults. I don't want GOG monkeying with the contents of the original game if it isn't a question of compatibility. That's like something Steam would do.

Why do you want to change SB16? As far as I remember it was the best choice for sierra games when I was using DosBox with my copies of Space Quests and other titles.
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PimPamPet: I didn't buy the pack, but it sounds like the GOG version has the same problem as the 2006 compilation pack (which didn't come with all the original files either). Bummer.

They might be using the same version here then. That is unfortunate. I have emailed support, we'll see what they say.
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RageBoy: Why do you want to change SB16? As far as I remember it was the best choice for sierra games when I was using DosBox with my copies of Space Quests and other titles.

That may well be the case, it certainly is with some games. But I'd like to find out myself, and I'd like to think I'm buying a complete game when I buy from GOG, not one that's broken, been monkeyed with, or altered from the original in any way that isn't related to compatibility.
Post edited February 12, 2010 by phanboy4
Out of curiosity, since this topic, may, or will be, extended to other Sierra titles in the future, is this problem also an issue [i think that's bad english there] with Gabriel Knight? Or is this an SQ "exclusive" mishap [which would support that 2006 source theory some of You guys have mentioned].
Do you have a file along the lines of RESOURCE.CFG where you can manually change the settings?
eg:
videoDrv = VGA320.DRV
soundDrv = ADL.DRV 220
audioDrv = AUDBLAST.DRV 220
joyDrv = NO
kbdDrv = IBMKBD.DRV
mouseDrv = STDMOUSE.DRV
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DProudmoore: Do you have a file along the lines of RESOURCE.CFG where you can manually change the settings?
eg:
videoDrv = VGA320.DRV
soundDrv = ADL.DRV 220
audioDrv = AUDBLAST.DRV 220
joyDrv = NO
kbdDrv = IBMKBD.DRV
mouseDrv = STDMOUSE.DRV

Yes, I've tried editing that manually. Fails to start with any other driver, probably because additional arguments are needed that normally get generated by the config file.
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I can't say about the GOG release, but the Steam release was based on the poor packaging of the VU release. These had all of the install files stripped out and less than optimal settings, both for the games themselves and for the antiquated version of DOSBox that shipped with it. That is why I created patches for the 2006 VU collections. These restore all of the missing files, updates DOSBox to the latest and configures the games and DOSBox to optimal settings. The 2006 collections had many problems. Though it is about the 2006 King's Quest collection, here is a post that lists all of the problems with the 2006 KQ collection. The other three collections all had similar problems.
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Collector: I can't say about the GOG release, but the Steam release was based on the poor packaging of the VU release. These had all of the install files stripped out and less than optimal settings, both for the games themselves and for the antiquated version of DOSBox that shipped with it. That is why I created patches for the 2006 VU collections. These restore all of the missing files, updates DOSBox to the latest and configures the games and DOSBox to optimal settings. The 2006 collections had many problems. Though it is about the 2006 King's Quest collection, here is a post that lists all of the problems with the 2006 KQ collection. The other three collections all had similar problems.

See, this is why I love the internet. Thank you man. Thank you very much. Indeed your patches replace the missing install files.
Post edited February 16, 2010 by phanboy4
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Collector: I can't say about the GOG release, but the Steam release was based on the poor packaging of the VU release. These had all of the install files stripped out and less than optimal settings, both for the games themselves and for the antiquated version of DOSBox that shipped with it. That is why I created patches for the 2006 VU collections. These restore all of the missing files, updates DOSBox to the latest and configures the games and DOSBox to optimal settings. The 2006 collections had many problems. Though it is about the 2006 King's Quest collection, here is a post that lists all of the problems with the 2006 KQ collection. The other three collections all had similar problems.

It even works with the Steam version on my Win7-64. Thanks so much!
I downloaded the installer for the patches, but am having a problem; when I direct it to the folder where GOG installs the games, it says the collection is not found. I only have 4/5/6, and not the first three - does that make a difference? I'm sure I'm missing something obvious but any assistance would be appreciated.

Also... I find it VERY unfortunate that GOG hasn't reached out to the wonderful Sierra community to present a better package of software than what VU dumped on the market in 2006 with these collections. Complete patched versions of these games with perfectly tweaked settings could be created easily by the folks at sierrahelp.com, and we could actually get REAL copies of the documentation and collateral material for these games rather than the shovelware PDF that appears here. Give them a call, GOG!
Most of DOS GOG.com releases don't come with installers. I understand their point of view. It should be easy for the average gamer who isn't to worried about the video and sound settings.

With Sierra games you can easily edit the resource.cfg file but with other games (like Wing Commander) you are out of luck.

I like to play the GOG.com games on my real DOS machine and the missing installer files are a bit of a negative. Doom for example (from Steam) also has no installers but you can steal it from the shareware version.