Posted April 19, 2016
Not the most thought-provoking lore question perhaps, and I don't know how many people still come here, but this popped into my head while reading a Let's Play thread in which a Primordia dev was commenting and referred to the original HORUS intelligence as "she."
I replayed the game itself fairly recently, and I don't remember the ship AI being referred to with anything but name or vague mentions of a war ship (and of course the log we find is in what amounts to first-person). It seems reasonable to assume HORUS did have some sort of rudimentary gendered presentation, as other machines do, though it does seem like they don't *really* remember what gender actually is or where it came from (presumably, anthropomorphic design by Primordia's humans) and at this point they're only continuing to build gender into their "offspring" out of habit.
Originally I would have thought HORUS was male, given that Horatio is specifically a *partial* of HORUS rather than normal independently constructed and programmed "offspring." Crispin is the latter, and in-setting could just as easily have been programmed female, but Horatio's in a somewhat weirder situation.
However, I found a Steam thread with a dev post indicating that Factotum (a partial of Factor, who is male) was intended to be "unambiguously identified as female." So there goes that reasoning!
That leaves it 50/50, depending on whether one goes with "humans traditionally consider ships female" (possibly the explanation for that first dev post) or "the ship's namesake was a male deity."
Like I said, not the most thought-provoking lore question, but HORUS is technically a pretty important character and now I'm left wondering if there's been any other word about how best to refer to her/him/it/them.
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The mythology question is more of a "was this intentional?"
The mythological Horus had four sons, and each of those had a female protector. Our Horatio is version five of what is technically the offspring of HORUS, and his warrior party member is of course a gun-wielding female robot. A fifth son of Horus? Kinda! ;)
I replayed the game itself fairly recently, and I don't remember the ship AI being referred to with anything but name or vague mentions of a war ship (and of course the log we find is in what amounts to first-person). It seems reasonable to assume HORUS did have some sort of rudimentary gendered presentation, as other machines do, though it does seem like they don't *really* remember what gender actually is or where it came from (presumably, anthropomorphic design by Primordia's humans) and at this point they're only continuing to build gender into their "offspring" out of habit.
Originally I would have thought HORUS was male, given that Horatio is specifically a *partial* of HORUS rather than normal independently constructed and programmed "offspring." Crispin is the latter, and in-setting could just as easily have been programmed female, but Horatio's in a somewhat weirder situation.
However, I found a Steam thread with a dev post indicating that Factotum (a partial of Factor, who is male) was intended to be "unambiguously identified as female." So there goes that reasoning!
That leaves it 50/50, depending on whether one goes with "humans traditionally consider ships female" (possibly the explanation for that first dev post) or "the ship's namesake was a male deity."
Like I said, not the most thought-provoking lore question, but HORUS is technically a pretty important character and now I'm left wondering if there's been any other word about how best to refer to her/him/it/them.
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The mythology question is more of a "was this intentional?"
The mythological Horus had four sons, and each of those had a female protector. Our Horatio is version five of what is technically the offspring of HORUS, and his warrior party member is of course a gun-wielding female robot. A fifth son of Horus? Kinda! ;)
Post edited April 19, 2016 by theraphos