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every time i try to open I get an error file and a blank screen and it crashes any solutions
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keepie123: every time i try to open I get an error file and a blank screen and it crashes any solutions
Couple of issues you'll need to look at:
- First is that populous the beginning is incompatible with windows Data Execution Protection. You'll need to make sure it's disabled for it.
- I solved my own crashing issues (invalid D3D surface) by creating a patch - Deleting atiumdag.dll from the populous directory, and trying www(dot)danielhorne(dot)co(dot)uk/Stuff/D3DPopTB_l.exe
- In my testing, windows compatibility mode seems best in windows XP (service pack 3) mode.
Post edited January 10, 2017 by DuSTman31
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keepie123: every time i try to open I get an error file and a blank screen and it crashes any solutions
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DuSTman31: Couple of issues you'll need to look at:
- First is that populous the beginning is incompatible with windows Data Execution Protection. You'll need to make sure it's disabled for it.
- I solved my own crashing issues (invalid D3D surface) by creating a patch - Deleting atiumdag.dll from the populous directory, and trying www(dot)danielhorne(dot)co(dot)uk/Stuff/D3DPopTB_l.exe
- In my testing, windows compatibility mode seems best in windows XP (service pack 3) mode.
Hello, there

same problem here. I tried everything i could find in the GOG-Forum. Still it doesn't work. I also tried your patch and set every setting as you said. Also the DEP is off. I still get the error message with the bug-check-code (0xc0000022). Is there anything else one could try, to get Populous - The Beginning to work on W10??

Greetings.
Post edited May 16, 2017 by mephi6163
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mephi6163: same problem here. I tried everything i could find in the GOG-Forum. Still it doesn't work. I also tried your patch and set every setting as you said. Also the DEP is off. I still get the error message with the bug-check-code (0xc0000022). Is there anything else one could try, to get Populous - The Beginning to work on W10??

Greetings.
Hi.

I've just uploaded a version which should create a logfile (www(dot)danielhorne(dot)co(dot)uk/Stuff/D3DPopTB-log.exe).

When run, it should produce a log in c:\dsd_pop3.txt

Hopefully that'll give us some insight.
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mephi6163: same problem here. I tried everything i could find in the GOG-Forum. Still it doesn't work. I also tried your patch and set every setting as you said. Also the DEP is off. I still get the error message with the bug-check-code (0xc0000022). Is there anything else one could try, to get Populous - The Beginning to work on W10??

Greetings.
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DuSTman31: Hi.

I've just uploaded a version which should create a logfile (www(dot)danielhorne(dot)co(dot)uk/Stuff/D3DPopTB-log.exe).

When run, it should produce a log in c:\dsd_pop3.txt

Hopefully that'll give us some insight.
Thank you for your answer,

i tried it. It tells me i don't have the permission to access.... although i set it on "run as admin" und comp mode WinXP SP 3. (DEP is still off and i am the admin user)

Also i don't have populous in C:\Program Files\.... installed, but instead in a Folder outside of the System-Folders. Especially with older games Win10 had problems if i had the games located there.
Is the entire problem AMD/ATI related?

I am playing Populous 1 on my Surface Pro 4 using only the graphics processor of the Intel core i7 CPU. The game runs without a problem.

I am stucked now since ages hopelessly at map 140, so it surely works :-)
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mephi6163: Thank you for your answer,

i tried it. It tells me i don't have the permission to access.... although i set it on "run as admin" und comp mode WinXP SP 3. (DEP is still off and i am the admin user)

Also i don't have populous in C:\Program Files\.... installed, but instead in a Folder outside of the System-Folders. Especially with older games Win10 had problems if i had the games located there.
If you can get process monitor from https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb545027.aspx and attempt to run the version you're getting the permission denied error on with that logging file system requests, that might help.
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ConAir2016: Is the entire problem AMD/ATI related?

I am playing Populous 1 on my Surface Pro 4 using only the graphics processor of the Intel core i7 CPU. The game runs without a problem.

I am stucked now since ages hopelessly at map 140, so it surely works :-)
When I investigated my own crashing issues, I found the code could generate calls to direct3d createsurface which had flags set which should be mutually exclusive. I modded it to stop doing that, and my crashing went away. This could simply be a case of newer AMD drivers having stricter input checking than old ones. I'd caution against saying it's AMDs fault though, as strictly speaking I don't think they're doing anything wrong.
Post edited May 21, 2017 by DuSTman31
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mephi6163: same problem here. I tried everything i could find in the GOG-Forum. Still it doesn't work. I also tried your patch and set every setting as you said. Also the DEP is off. I still get the error message with the bug-check-code (0xc0000022). Is there anything else one could try, to get Populous - The Beginning to work on W10??

Greetings.
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DuSTman31: Hi.

I've just uploaded a version which should create a logfile (www(dot)danielhorne(dot)co(dot)uk/Stuff/D3DPopTB-log.exe).

When run, it should produce a log in c:\dsd_pop3.txt

Hopefully that'll give us some insight.
I just found the problem with your file. My AntiVirus blocked it. I got rid of it and now it just works exactly like the normal Populous executables: i get the (0xc00...0022) error.
Now, you said this should have created an log-file. Could you tell where i can find this file?
"dsd_pop3.txt" doesn't seem to exist on my harddrive.

...and what i should have said from the beginning: i don't have AMD-Graphics. I have an Nvidia 840M in my notebook... and of course those Intel-Graphics.
Post edited May 21, 2017 by mephi6163
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mephi6163: I just found the problem with your file. My AntiVirus blocked it. I got rid of it and now it just works exactly like the normal Populous executables: i get the (0xc00...0022) error.
Now, you said this should have created an log-file. Could you tell where i can find this file?
"dsd_pop3.txt" doesn't seem to exist on my harddrive.

...and what i should have said from the beginning: i don't have AMD-Graphics. I have an Nvidia 840M in my notebook... and of course those Intel-Graphics.
In the root of the C drive (the path c:\d3d_pop3.txt is hardcoded to the game's logging functions).

Yeah, I think you're having a different issue than I did. Will see if I can get enough info to figure it out.
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mephi6163: I just found the problem with your file. My AntiVirus blocked it. I got rid of it and now it just works exactly like the normal Populous executables: i get the (0xc00...0022) error.
Now, you said this should have created an log-file. Could you tell where i can find this file?
"dsd_pop3.txt" doesn't seem to exist on my harddrive.

...and what i should have said from the beginning: i don't have AMD-Graphics. I have an Nvidia 840M in my notebook... and of course those Intel-Graphics.
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DuSTman31: In the root of the C drive (the path c:\d3d_pop3.txt is hardcoded to the game's logging functions).

Yeah, I think you're having a different issue than I did. Will see if I can get enough info to figure it out.
No, sry, "Object couldn't be found"
Maybe, because it can't start properly, it doesn't even create this log. :(

ok, even if you can't figure out my problem in the near future... thx very much for your time and effort. :) much appreciated.
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DuSTman31: In the root of the C drive (the path c:\d3d_pop3.txt is hardcoded to the game's logging functions).

Yeah, I think you're having a different issue than I did. Will see if I can get enough info to figure it out.
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mephi6163: No, sry, "Object couldn't be found"
Maybe, because it can't start properly, it doesn't even create this log. :(

ok, even if you can't figure out my problem in the near future... thx very much for your time and effort. :) much appreciated.
Just looking up that error code - there's a few articles stating that it can happen if the "software protection" service isn't started... Can you try making sure this service is running before attempting to run it?
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mephi6163: No, sry, "Object couldn't be found"
Maybe, because it can't start properly, it doesn't even create this log. :(

ok, even if you can't figure out my problem in the near future... thx very much for your time and effort. :) much appreciated.
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DuSTman31: Just looking up that error code - there's a few articles stating that it can happen if the "software protection" service isn't started... Can you try making sure this service is running before attempting to run it?
Alright, i started sspvc: nothing changes. still the same error and no log-file.

I know, that this bug-check-code is a common error since windows10, but i never got it until i tried to start populous and it only shows up for the populous-executables.
Post edited May 21, 2017 by mephi6163
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DuSTman31: Just looking up that error code - there's a few articles stating that it can happen if the "software protection" service isn't started... Can you try making sure this service is running before attempting to run it?
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mephi6163: Alright, i started sspvc: nothing changes. still the same error and no log-file.

I know, that this bug-check-code is a common error since windows10, but i never got it until i tried to start populous and it only shows up for the populous-executables.
The other thing I found was that people say that code comes up when a program attempts to load a DLL it doesn't have permissions to.. Can you open Process monitor (from system internals - I posted the link above) to get a dump of what happens when you try to open it..
For testing purposes I installed Populous 1 on another machine, again Win10 64bit, this time with an nVidia GPU. I chose compatibility mode for WinXP and again, it runs like a charm. So Intel-based APU works fine, as well as nvidia GPU. AMD or the lack of somehow support of AMD seems to be the culprit?

Besides that, I prolly will stop playing Populous 1 now and delete it - I have rarely been so frustrated by a cheating CPU opponent ever, ever. The speed that the CPU builds and gains power around level 140 onward is simply bananas and progress is made impossible. I guess game balancing wasn't really a focus in 1989 (and I was already gaming in that year).
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ConAir2016: For testing purposes I installed Populous 1 on another machine, again Win10 64bit, this time with an nVidia GPU. I chose compatibility mode for WinXP and again, it runs like a charm. So Intel-based APU works fine, as well as nvidia GPU. AMD or the lack of somehow support of AMD seems to be the culprit?

Besides that, I prolly will stop playing Populous 1 now and delete it - I have rarely been so frustrated by a cheating CPU opponent ever, ever. The speed that the CPU builds and gains power around level 140 onward is simply bananas and progress is made impossible. I guess game balancing wasn't really a focus in 1989 (and I was already gaming in that year).
I think it's poptb we're talking about here, rather than populous 1 (populous 1 and 2 are DOS programs and run in the DOSBOX emulator in the GOG pack.. Populous the beinning is an (early) native win32 application.