Wait a sec.
If that's true, I'd be able to win very easily, but as the other person suggested using the stun hammer from the mage and that seems to have been patched out... are you sure this still works?

From what I gather, the dragons are supposed to be immune to status effects.

For me Adra dragon was preaty straitforward (just avoid breath, kill henchmen, buff).
Ice dragon was harder, and I only killed him with paralysis scrolls. Attack him last though, as he summons more henchmen)

Well if dragons are immune to all this stuff, it's new, when I played it, I had her hobbled and all that stuff.

Actually, there was a quick change of dragon on the last replies :P

The Adra dragon is now immune to fire, but not to crush damage. (Actually, I'm not sure what would happens if you fight her after reaching the lvl 14, maybe she will be put in a positive handicap for making the challenge still hard (like with Theos).
The alpino dragon is the new BIG BOSS and is immune to the crush damage.

P.d. And the anti-dragon feat, is optional as is to be nice with the dragons.

I think was my exaggeration to call it "invisible attack". But its breath attack don't has animation, or indication in which direction is coming and how much reach got it. With the adra and alpino dragon I got NPC killed when I though they were out reach.. That is why for me is an invisible attakc.

Tried it in the new dragon for the expansion and it worked well enough. Try hitting it with the wizard miasma first, to lower the will save.

I'll give it a shot. Thanks.

That Adra Dragon, eh, is it utterly impossible? Don't think I've ever seen such a spike in difficulty in any game before.

We're all level 11, I have Eder and Paladin-girl in the party, but about 3 seconds into the fight, before I know there are heaps of other enemies too, half the party is dead (actually 4 of 7 with Itumaak), two others an inch from their life, and Sagani only survived unscathed because she happened to be stood further back. This is on normal difficulty.

Yes, dragons are legendary creatures and supposed to be hard, but this untouchable? Almost literally? Either our attacks missed entirely, despite good rolls, or they barely registered as an annoyance for the dragon.

My only choice is to retreat with the tail between our legs and hope another level will somehow help (don't have the expansions), which I seriously doubt. If we were somewhat close I could have tried again and again and again until we got lucky, but this is pointless.

You need high accuracy and spread your party, because yes, his breath attack is nasty if it is able to catch your party (that is killing you).

There are many different tactics to beat him (and superb weapons and armors)
In my case, the first time I used a tank with deflection of 125, plus potions, to distract him meanwhile the party kill the other creatures.

The dragon, is not impossible (wait for the last special encounter of the second part of the expansion for that title :P ) but frankly requires a lot of focus from you part.

P.d. and is not mandatory to kill the dragon, you can ally with her

The adra dragon difficulty is a bummer for me as I'm playing TOI on hard difficulty so I think I might avoid it. I was hoping they would fix it in the patches, I saw something in the patch notes about delaying the breath attack so you don't lose your whole party right at the start of combat. Sounds like I might have to avoid the last encounter of WM2 as well. I haven't played through it yet, is that encounter optional or do you have to do it once you start the campaign?

Thanks

All of the brutally difficult encounters are optional. Obsidian didn't patch it because there is nothing to patch - these encounters are supposed to test your understanding of the mechanics and tools provided by the game to the limit.

This was a few years ago, but as I recall I was able to kill the adra dragon cheesily, by getting it to chase my party into the tunnel on the far side of the area, which at some point becomes too narrow for the dragon to pass. Then we stood far away shooting arrows at it, for, like, an hour.

There's not much fun in that, but if you really just wanna beat the thing to get the gear, it did work.

old post but Adra dragon is beatable but just difficult unless you prepare.

It is basically immune to slash, fire, electrical, and most status effects i think except confusion. It has good resist vs cold and knockdownl.

Your warriors you want with pierce or crushing weapons. The main damage dealer vs the dragon is your mage, because Raw damage is really good vs the dragon. Poison field that does raw damage, spells that do raw damage. I had a very hard time killing it until i started keeping my mage alive and chucking poison raw damage fields. My rogue did raw damage after effects also so he whittled it down some.

What i did, ran north hugging the wall and started to kill his minions. I had summoniing items (spiders, drakes) so i would summon creatues as i took down his minions and used them to go keep him distraced for a few seconds while i kept killing minions, trying to stay away from him so his break or AOE attack wouldn't hit my main group. Once he actually got through and focus's on me, then i turned to attack him.

His 2 main problems are breath and AOE attack, so send your forces to surround him that way you minimalize his breath and that leaves only his AOE attack as deadly. And deadly it is, usually it will wipe out 3 of my guys on one hit, but again its most important to keep your mage alive to keep casting Raw damage spells on him. Cleric is helpful to AOE blast also trying to hit any groups of minions near the dragon. But always, ALWAYS dragon is main target, the minions won't kill you, the dragon will. Once engaged ingore the minions and full attack on the dragon. Use any summon items/spells and let them distract the minions.

Level 12 guys, good gear took me about 15 times restarting before my mage stayed alive long enough to Raw damage him down.