Posted May 21, 2020
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pedrorq
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Posted May 21, 2020
pedrorq: I'm respeccing at Act4 so I'll skip Vivi1 :) Any suggestion of Feat to replace Accomplished Sneak Attacker?
InEffect: Can take PA. It's fine to have some extra damage on tap once you overcap the AB. Which of your Valerie bard builds works better with the Sword Saint MC?
Fighter(TSS) 5 / Bard 11 / Dragon Disciple 4
or
Fighter(TSS) 1 / Bard 8 / Dragon Disciple 4 / Alchemist(Vivisectionist) 3 / Slayer 3 / Monk(Scaled Fist) 1
(as usual, the less I have to buff etc the better ;) )
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Posted May 21, 2020
pedrorq: Trying this now, and with MC as tank I can make Valerie a bard.
Which of your Valerie bard builds works better with the Sword Saint MC?
Fighter(TSS) 5 / Bard 11 / Dragon Disciple 4
or
Fighter(TSS) 1 / Bard 8 / Dragon Disciple 4 / Alchemist(Vivisectionist) 3 / Slayer 3 / Monk(Scaled Fist) 1
(as usual, the less I have to buff etc the better ;) )
Either works. Bard 11 would generally be better for saint cause he does prefer a dirge bard. Although if you don't want to micro your bard every other round as you should it doesn't really matter.Which of your Valerie bard builds works better with the Sword Saint MC?
Fighter(TSS) 5 / Bard 11 / Dragon Disciple 4
or
Fighter(TSS) 1 / Bard 8 / Dragon Disciple 4 / Alchemist(Vivisectionist) 3 / Slayer 3 / Monk(Scaled Fist) 1
(as usual, the less I have to buff etc the better ;) )
Post edited May 21, 2020 by InEffect
Pangaea666
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Posted May 21, 2020
InEffect: Melee Sorc
Race: Human
Alignment: LG(for the robes)
Stats:
Str: 18 > 22
Dex: 15 > 16 @4
Con: 12
Int: 10
Wis: 7
Cha: 16
Final Build: Monk(Scaled Fist) 1/Sorcerer(Copper Dragon) 5/Dragon Disciple 4/Eldritch Knight 10
Have created some characters to level 20 by editing the save file party.json, but am not terribly pleased with them. Looked through some builds in here again, and this one caught my eye. Kinda limited since I want to be CHA based, so perhaps I ought to just go for a melee sorcerer instead. Wanting to be CN alignment, Monk dip isn't possible. Would Fighter be best, to get e.g. Dodge+Martial? Race: Human
Alignment: LG(for the robes)
Stats:
Str: 18 > 22
Dex: 15 > 16 @4
Con: 12
Int: 10
Wis: 7
Cha: 16
Final Build: Monk(Scaled Fist) 1/Sorcerer(Copper Dragon) 5/Dragon Disciple 4/Eldritch Knight 10
One question I wonder about: Why Copper bloodline? Wouldn't for example Green be good, with a cone breath attack, since we're meant to be on the frontlines?
How would this actually play? Would you be mostly buffing up and then hacking off heads, or is the idea to use damage spells quite frequently as well while in the front?
Edit: Since I used Chain lightning as a staple level 6 spell, would it be better to go with an electricity bloodline?
Post edited May 21, 2020 by Pangaea666
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Posted May 21, 2020
Pangaea666: Have created some characters to level 20 by editing the save file party.json, but am not terribly pleased with them. Looked through some builds in here again, and this one caught my eye. Kinda limited since I want to be CHA based, so perhaps I ought to just go for a melee sorcerer instead. Wanting to be CN alignment, Monk dip isn't possible. Would Fighter be best, to get e.g. Dodge+Martial?
Fighter is ok. You'd also need to cough up feats to combat ASF, so will have to be human. Pangaea666: One question I wonder about: Why Copper bloodline? Wouldn't for example Green be good, with a cone breath attack, since we're meant to be on the frontlines?
Breath attacks don't matter. You likely won't use it once through the whole game. Color ultimately doesn't matter either. I just like acid cause small acid resistance a bit better than elemental one as that is more often found with small ticks. Pangaea666: How would this actually play? Would you be mostly buffing up and then hacking off heads, or is the idea to use damage spells quite frequently as well while in the front?
Buff up and chop things with vanquisher. That's that. Case an odd no-save spell here and there once you have EK10. You don't want offensive magic since it doesn't ramp up the DC's.
Pangaea666
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Posted May 21, 2020
Thanks. I love offensive spells tho :( Thought (or hoped) that with all these various spell classes that DC kept up too. But we fall too far behind to use stuff like rays, CC or chain lightning? Would have been fun when I'm first up there, to blast them with acidic spray or something else that I've basically never been able to use due to friendly fire concerns.
Anyway, I like the idea of this so think I'll try it out. Then I have until level 2 before I need to scratch my head about what to do with the various companions :P
Anyway, I like the idea of this so think I'll try it out. Then I have until level 2 before I need to scratch my head about what to do with the various companions :P
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Posted May 21, 2020
pedrorq: Guessing the reason for Vivi 1 is for Mutagen + Sneak Attack? Without Vivi I cannot get Accomplished Sneak Attacker, right?
InEffect: V1 is there for a spike in AC for A1. 2d6 sneak is pretty miniscule, so I wouldn't really bother. It's just it doesn't cost you much in the long run and making A1 uhfair easier is worth it. JaymoGhost: If i were to start a new Campaign but with characters that were twins.. lets say brother and sister.. one being the Staff monkster and the other one being something that would compliment well being a cleric or something what would you make the second char? and would that work thematically? like my character dealt with the stuff at restov while my sister was at Olegs place waiting for me when the bandits attacked! lol.. thanks. also is the staff monkster really a tank with damage or would i still need to go full tank Val? or would Slayer be better on the frontline? i love me some sword and board play.. maybe could have them be brothers..Staff monkster and slayer builds of yours and no Val at all
InEffect: There is always a room for two tanks, so val doesn't step on anyones toes. Thematically... I'd probably do two draconic bloodline characters. One melee sorc and the other AT/Sorc. That's as close to bloodline themes the game gets. Or you can just make the other erastil cleric, which is meta and they'd have a reason to be there since there is an erastil temple and he/she easily could come with jhod InEffect
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Posted May 21, 2020
I mean maybe on casual difficulties you can. But reality is why would you even if you could? Vanquisher sorc will deal 100+damage on a regular hit and 200+on a crit. Sure there are free quicken spells from EK, but you can just dump those on touch spells without wasting feats on rays.
Pangaea666
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Posted May 21, 2020
Looking over that build again, does crane wing and crane riposte do anything when we're meant to use a 2-hander in the greataxe? From the description in-game it mentioned the need for a hand free. Do they work even with 2-handers?
Vanquisher is probably a very late-game weapon, though, seeing as it's +5. But I get your point. Sounds better to just buff and hack off heads. More attacks too than a single spell. Maximised (from gear/rod) Chain lightnings can be mean as hell, though.
Vanquisher is probably a very late-game weapon, though, seeing as it's +5. But I get your point. Sounds better to just buff and hack off heads. More attacks too than a single spell. Maximised (from gear/rod) Chain lightnings can be mean as hell, though.
Post edited May 21, 2020 by Pangaea666
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Posted May 21, 2020
If you believe everything the game tells you - you're gonna have a bad time. The game lies. About most everything.
Grrymjo
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Posted May 22, 2020
Being in complete agreement with Comrade InEffect, I would like to point out that the combat log mostly tells the truth. So usually it is a better source of information.
Pangaea666
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Posted May 22, 2020
Cheers, then I'll definitely trust you :) They really should have fixed that, though. I'm sure smart programmers are able to get tooltips to show what the game files actually do (not plain text). Too late now, probably, but hope they sort stuff like this for the next one. It can be very confusing.
PETEX93
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Posted May 22, 2020
What are the differences between Melee Sorc and Str Scion in terms of 2h melee combatant capable of casting spells? Is one stronger or more comfortable to play than the other?
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Posted May 22, 2020
Sorc is more castery, has better AC ramp and a lot more utility. Abyssal Scion is more fightery and has more damage top end. That's pretty much it.
Post edited May 22, 2020 by InEffect
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Posted May 22, 2020
Any thoughts on the Jaethal magic build? Would she end up more useful than Octavia, who is always tired it seems?