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Just found my Octavia deals sneak damage to zombie with ranged touch attack.
I'm sure zombies are undead.
AFAIR undead (and swarms + some other types) are immune to this in PF rules.
Is it a bug?
Is it related to normal game?
Or I'm wrong?
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green.rabbit: Just found my Octavia deals sneak damage to zombie with ranged touch attack.
I'm sure zombies are undead.
AFAIR undead (and swarms + some other types) are immune to this in PF rules.
Is it a bug?
Is it related to normal game?
Or I'm wrong?
there is a fair number of crit immune things in the game. low-level mobs are probably not that so rogues won't struggle in A1 as much.
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green.rabbit: Just found my Octavia deals sneak damage to zombie with ranged touch attack.
I'm sure zombies are undead.
AFAIR undead (and swarms + some other types) are immune to this in PF rules.
Is it a bug?
Is it related to normal game?
Or I'm wrong?
Isn't this DnD thing though? In Pathfinder most undead are not immune to crits or sneak attack.

The 3.5 DnD rules have it, unless you have a special perk, but Pathfinder removed this as far as I know.
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green.rabbit: Just found my Octavia deals sneak damage to zombie with ranged touch attack.
I'm sure zombies are undead.
AFAIR undead (and swarms + some other types) are immune to this in PF rules.
Is it a bug?
Is it related to normal game?
Or I'm wrong?
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Jumbik: Isn't this DnD thing though? In Pathfinder most undead are not immune to crits or sneak attack.

The 3.5 DnD rules have it, unless you have a special perk, but Pathfinder removed this as far as I know.
Makes snens most lower level UD are just animated bodies. and a cut hamstring is a cut hamstring. You csan see the backstabs working even while the base weapon damage can't penetrate their DR...lol...In PNP I would seriously consider a elf rough with a curve blade. and a sap.never forget the sap
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Mastererrant: In PNP I would seriously consider a elf rough with a curve blade. and a sap.never forget the sap
rogue with curved blade works reasonably well in this one, so you can do it. combat reflexes/outflank/seize the moment/opportunist will help with the number of attacks and ab. plus you can be enlarged and gain reach thus negating rogues worst part aka low AC.

ps. see? I don't always disagree with you.
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green.rabbit: Just found my Octavia deals sneak damage to zombie with ranged touch attack.
I'm sure zombies are undead.
AFAIR undead (and swarms + some other types) are immune to this in PF rules.
Is it a bug?
Is it related to normal game?
Or I'm wrong?
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Jumbik: Isn't this DnD thing though? In Pathfinder most undead are not immune to crits or sneak attack.

The 3.5 DnD rules have it, unless you have a special perk, but Pathfinder removed this as far as I know.
Hmm... It seems you are correct, and undead from PF can be affected by sneak attack.
At least found a lot of discussions on the net and some refers, still not clear for me.
I can say it was totally wrong to count my DnD exp to be 100% valid in PF.
Also, If DnD5 removed backstab immunity from unded, why PF can't?
Thank you.
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Mastererrant: In PNP I would seriously consider a elf rough with a curve blade. and a sap.never forget the sap
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InEffect: rogue with curved blade works reasonably well in this one, so you can do it. combat reflexes/outflank/seize the moment/opportunist will help with the number of attacks and ab. plus you can be enlarged and gain reach thus negating rogues worst part aka low AC.

ps. see? I don't always disagree with you.
didn't say you did Brother.
Havn't done curveblade cause I understant there aren't good magic ones available which would be bad at higher levels

In P&P I love rouge with non standard weapons. my all time fave was Q'staff especially after Dual weilding since it the original double weapon...hmmmis it in this? Nopr and not finessable either..
Post edited October 27, 2018 by Mastererrant
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InEffect: rogue with curved blade works reasonably well in this one, so you can do it. combat reflexes/outflank/seize the moment/opportunist will help with the number of attacks and ab. plus you can be enlarged and gain reach thus negating rogues worst part aka low AC.

ps. see? I don't always disagree with you.
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Mastererrant: didn't say you did Brother.
Havn't done curveblade cause I understant there aren't good magic ones available which would be bad at higher levels

In P&P I love rouge with non standard weapons. my all time fave was Q'staff especially after Dual weilding since it the original double weapon...hmmmis it in this? Nopr and not finessable either..
there is always +4 one from the tournament. And pretty sure that storyteller master can bring you one at random. She does seem to bring you exotics.

you did inspire me to build a concept of eldritch scoundrel btw. was thinking for a long time how to do a good one. and then it clicked.
Post edited October 27, 2018 by InEffect
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Mastererrant: didn't say you did Brother.
Havn't done curveblade cause I understant there aren't good magic ones available which would be bad at higher levels

In P&P I love rouge with non standard weapons. my all time fave was Q'staff especially after Dual weilding since it the original double weapon...hmmmis it in this? Nopr and not finessable either..
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InEffect: there is always +4 one from the tournament. And pretty sure that storyteller master can bring you one at random. She does seem to bring you exotics.

you did inspire me to build a concept of eldritch scoundrel btw. was thinking for a long time how to do a good one. and then it clicked.
Hmm thd damage a crit mult would hlp make of for te sparse abilities. Arcant trickster is also much better in PF than D&D
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InEffect: there is always +4 one from the tournament. And pretty sure that storyteller master can bring you one at random. She does seem to bring you exotics.

you did inspire me to build a concept of eldritch scoundrel btw. was thinking for a long time how to do a good one. and then it clicked.
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Mastererrant: Hmm thd damage a crit mult would hlp make of for te sparse abilities. Arcant trickster is also much better in PF than D&D
AT is not really the focus there. picked up 4 levels just to get to eldritch knight with better benefits than scoundrel would give. AT is a lot better here, true. 0.5 BAB progression is killing me smalls, though,