It's been a few months since the last noticable patch, Sean Murray's twitter account is all but abandoned... I feel like this studio totally scammed me and the WHOLE WORLD out of a ton of money... It took 3+ years to make an EMPTY GAME??? Mods thankfully have revived this game if not made it MUCH BETTER, but I still have a bitter sweet taste in my mouth after playing this game, running a Facebook page which I've since resigned from... I think all the Hillary Supporters that are protesting should instead try to do something more productive like trying to find Sean Murray... the guy must have killed himself or something.... How does one simply vanish w/o a trace in today's world???

I was super excited for the POTENTIAL of this game, the MULTIPLAYER which turned out to be a HUGE LIE... That burned me, THE ONLY REASON I bought a PS4 version was JUST FOR THAT FEATURE... 3 months since the 1.09 update came out..... NO ONE should have to wait 3 months for simple patches, even an INCRIMENTAL patch would be SOMETHING to show that Hello Games was still around and not in some HUGE money blowing binge fest...

I would like to help small indies some more in the future, but after this HUGE catastrophy ALL indie dev's should be a little more coy about releasing ANY TRAILERS of supposed gameplay... Hello Games used CGI trailers that were hand crafted and NOT running on the PS4 as the trailers implied... this game was just one huge LIE. I sort of wish SKY media would have won the lawsuit for the name thing, it would have saved us all a ton of heart ache...

No.

I paid my £40 and after about 200 hours of game time i feel i got my monies worth. The game is still enjoyable to play (with 2 mods i require to play it, Spaceflight Overhaul and Asteroid Fields) and each time i come to a new planet i'm hoping for lots of creatures to scan for and wondering what the views will look like on it. It still provides lots of interest for me.

Could the game be better? Sure, and i hope that is what Hello Games are currently working on (you can see they are working on it in the other thread about the updates to the experimental build).

Edit: and IF you are some kind of NMS hate bot from the STEAM forums, you might find this a less interesting place than the STEAM FORUMS (i can do capitals too! :) ).

Yes.

i automatically discount anyone who bitches about the lack of multiplayer.

it was never promised or even implied. if you so completely misunderstood what the game was before you bought it than i cant really feel bad for you.

...I can as it means either they have a very poor ability to understand (which makes me feel bad for anyone really), or it means they are easily led my miss-information from the wider press around NMS, or have short attention spans that means they could not follow all the details during development about MP in NMS that came from Sean himself. I can feel sorry for people like that, even if not agreeing with their focus (and hate) on that specific issue. NMS was never about the MP, that much is true.

not only was it never about the multiplayer...but multiplayer was never even suggested as being part of the game at all.

at the very MOST it was suggested that it was possible to meet other players. just meet them...not interact, not do any kind of co-op play, not trade with...just meet, and even then it was made clear that the possibility of that was so minute as to make it effectively not possible at all.

how anyone could interpret that as "multiplayer" is beyond me.

Hmmm, so saying one might need to upgrade one's shields because of the possibility of running into other player's implies what to you?

Note: I personally find it more annoying that there are stars at the edge of the galaxies/dimensions/realities that cannot be selected, so right off the bat, the go to every star stuff is bull dung. It also makes it a royal pain to try and plot the edges of galaxies.

Personally, I don't feel betrayed at all. I bought the Collector's Edition for PS4 and I played the game nearly every day for about two months. I even unlocked every Trophy. I enjoyed the simplicity of the game's concept; travel around, discover things, upgrade your gear, repeat. The only things I found strange were that you couldn't name your ship or your gun. Of all of the things in the game you can name, leaving those two things out was just bizarre. Regardless, it didn't actually impact the gameplay in any way, so it is a minor gripe at best.

Admittedly, I did not watch every interview, read every article and stream every Let's Play like others seem to have done. As such, there was little for me to be disappointed by. As far as the backlash that Hello Games has received, I can't really fault them for going silent. Any possible thing they could say would be picked apart and destroyed by the community, so saying nothing at all seems the path of least resistance. I am a little surprised that we haven't seen any sort of sizeable update to the game yet, but considering the game took 3+ years to get to this state, I am willing to give them another couple of months to put together a decent content patch.

When it's all said and done, if this ends up being all that No Man's Sky ever is, I still feel I got my money's worth.

well...it doesnt imply anything really. not the least reason is because i never heard or read that. but also because theres a "might" and a "possibility" in there....the fact that one might need to do something because of the possibility of something happening implies nothing at all. it certainly is hardly the basis for the belief that theres actual multiplayer in the game. especially considering the numerous and plentiful times it was explicitly said that the chances of ever meeting anyone were practically nil.

so really were talking about people getting their panties all in a bunch over being lead to believe that something had a %0.0001 of happening when it actually had a %0.0000 chance of happening.

Here you go claims that players crossing other players paths could attack each other (if they managed to cross paths): - Sean Murray excerpt @ Eurogamer.net
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-01-22-so-what-do-you-actually-do-in-no-mans-sky

There are more than enough instances of him making MP claims to know he made them, and never once did he or any of his team come forward and say "well, we didn't actually get any of this in."

As I have already pointed out to this day the Store page contains blatant lies that cannot be denied. That sentence has multiple lies in it, but I'll be nice and point out only one. You cannot go to every star in the game.
Don't believe, try pulse flying to a star in system, or from inside to another system (those both fail but wait it gets better).
Ok, so maybe someone will say the only way you're meant to travel between stars is by using the Galactic Map.
Go for it. Fly way out to the edge of the Galaxy. Out to where there is nothing but mist. Now fly back inward and select the first star you see.
100% you cannot select that star as the outer layer of every galaxy has a set of stars that cannot be selected.
So, absolutely no way to get to some of those stars on the outer edge of every galaxy directly contradicting the every star is one you can choose to go to.

Feel like checking for yourself:
Euclid 289849.7 LY DTC
NMS Location Manager Code: 90-387-lXm05c
NMS Signal Scanner Coordinates: GRAN:0FFE:0000:0FFE:0221
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/149011046570168006/6F7D27CBB18F8AFCC2C33D859F14A50EE7AB16D3/

even in your own example it says "if" and "very rare".

that is not multiplayer. anyone who thought this game was multiplayer is either stupid or absolutely didnt do any research into what the game was.

it was made very VERY clear that there was no multiplayer in this game. you know how i know? because i bought it. i HATE multiplayer games and id never have got this game if i thought there was even the slightest chance there was multiplayer in it.

you can site as many off handed vague suggestions about the faint possibility of player interaction as you like...for every one of those you post i can find 3 where they said you would never see another player.

at no time was real multiplayer implied or suggested...and it certainly wasnt ever promised.

That sentence says it is possible in the game, but rare, for you to run into another player, but if you do, they may attack you which would require your ship, multitool, and shields be upgraded or you will be vulnerable.
That is not 'if' you cross paths with one, because we may or may not code the ability to be attacked by others. The chance of it 'rarely' being another player is ZERO as it is not possible because the 'if they cross paths' is a lie. You will never run cross paths with another player who might rarely attack you. You've got to take the words themselves out of context of the sentence to perform the mental gymnastics necessary to fit your reply's scenario.

As to your claim of every time they said it was possible there are 3 claims where they said it was not possible, show even 1 example that did not end in something about the chance being rare, not the experience we're going for (but possible), etc. Every single example I have ever seen given by the "they said it wasn't MP crowd" has already been shown as they coming with qualifiers that it was possible just rare. The only solid single player claim is the descriptor on the store page marking as single player.

You also still have not addressed the blatant lie still on the store page about visiting every star. Then again the trolls who defend Sean Murray and HelloGames employees and their lies rarely do address the issues and consistently fail to back their claims.

Notice, I've never said it was bad. Just not the product advertised, nor promoted. Close in some areas, extremely far off in others.

Defending those lies though, that is bad for the entire gaming industry.

you have a very twisted notion of what "multiplayer" is if you think any of those vague claims of limited player interaction, that were all followed by massive amounts of qualifiers and caveats saying it was virtually impossible to happen were some kind of promise of multiplayer. i mean you have to be seriously delusional to have ever for a second thought this game had multiplayer in it.

as to your mention of any other claims....i dont care. im talking about the ridiculous and outright stupid complaint of lack of multiplayer. NO ONE EVER SAID IT WAS A MULTIPLAYER GAME...not ever.

the bottom line is that there was no claim of multiplayer. it wasnt promised or implied....anyone complaining about the lack of multiplayer automatically gets put into the "dont bother listening to them, they just like to bitch about stuff" category.

of all the things one could pick as features left out of the game...for someone to yammer on about multiplayer just shows they dont know what they are talking about at all.

So your entire argument and level of proof is you throwing insults. Whereas I can link actual statements that give clear indications that multiplayer was described such as players attacking other players (which you somehow think is not multiplayer). Perhaps you would like to explain how one player attacking another player is not multiplayer so we might better understand your reality.

You were the one who said there were no claims that could be considered as that mutliplayer was feature.

Can you actually provide any proof of any of your claims (like you were asked for already)? I've provided my proofs, which you've been unable to dispute. You've yet to provide anything backing your claims (as was expected and even predicted).

Of course you don't care about any of the lies as you can't defend against any of them. Your lack of rationality has one player attacking another player as something other than multiplayer. You make many claims but fail to provide any proofs. Thanks for showing your colors, you have nothing to back your claims so resort to insults.

Try harder. Not bothering with you again until you can actually back some of your claims or give a detailed explanation on how one player attacking another player is not multiplayer and what you instead define as multiplayer.

are you joking?

pay attention ill write it slowly for you.

saying a feature MAY be in the game is not a promise of that feature.

telling everyone over and over that you will almost certainly never meet another player is plenty of proof that there is no multiplayer...i mean come on...how do you not understand that?

they told us....like 1000 times that the likelihood of ever seeing another player was next to nothing. why the F**K would they spend time a resources developing systems they thought would never get used? how does that make any sense?

i really dont know what other "proof" you need besides the fact that they told us over and over that we would almost certainly never even meet another player....or are you claiming they didnt say that?

i mean...i can tell you..."hey....ill give you a million dollars if you can hit a bulls eye on a dart board from a mile away" that doesnt mean i told you i would give you a million dollars.

if you were naive enough to only listen to the parts you wanted to hear...and ignored all the other things that were telling you those things werent going to happen...thats on you. maybe try to have a little perspective and use some critical thinking next time.

did they say player interaction was in the game? NO they said it MIGHT be in the game.

did they then go on to explain that you would never see another player? YES

do the math.

there was never going to be any multiplayer in this game.

and as far as the other things...i already told you...the reason i dont care about them is because thats not what im talking about. im specifically talking about the ridiculous notion that there was supposed to be multiplayer in this game when there wasnt ever....and my opinion that anyone who complains about multiplayer looses the right to complain about anything else.

i never said there were promised features that arent in the game...i said i wont listen to anyone who complains about multiplayer...because that was never promised.

and i dont have to try harder for anything...im not the one who didnt understand what this game was and is now crying about it. i have already backed my claims up. they freaking told us we would never meet other players...they told us that over and over and over and over and over. its not my fault you didnt listen.

i mean...you do understand that you cant have multiplayer in a game where youll never see other players right? or is that somehow confusing to you?