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Sweet.
Jesus.
On.
A.
Stick.

They actually had the gigantic clanking brass balls to PUBLISH that load of maggot-laden dog feces that was used as an "ending" on the original campaign. Did somebody pull in his brother-in-law who one time expressed a passing interest in thinking about doing voiceovers 20 years before in order to "narrate" that thing? And the "story" of the ending? There is not enough whiskey in the world for it to make sense to me. SOMEbody thought it was a good idea to actually put their NAME on that?

I am so very glad I bought NWN2 at the last big D&D blowout sale, along with a whole bunch of other stuff that I'd passed on over the years, so it came out to $5.00/game. Had I paid a penny more, the ending of that campaign would have made it a rip-off.
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bryanmaloney: Sweet.
Jesus.
On.
A.
Stick.

They actually had the gigantic clanking brass balls to PUBLISH that load of maggot-laden dog feces that was used as an "ending" on the original campaign. Did somebody pull in his brother-in-law who one time expressed a passing interest in thinking about doing voiceovers 20 years before in order to "narrate" that thing? And the "story" of the ending? There is not enough whiskey in the world for it to make sense to me. SOMEbody thought it was a good idea to actually put their NAME on that?

I am so very glad I bought NWN2 at the last big D&D blowout sale, along with a whole bunch of other stuff that I'd passed on over the years, so it came out to $5.00/game. Had I paid a penny more, the ending of that campaign would have made it a rip-off.
Definitely one of the weakest parts of the game. But IMO it's a real diamond in the rough with some very good moments, some enjoyable NPCs, and some good ideas. Play the expansion (MotB) and I'm pretty sure you'll be more than satisfied with the purchase. A much, much stronger campaign than the original.
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bryanmaloney: Did somebody pull in his brother-in-law who one time expressed a passing interest in thinking about doing voiceovers 20 years before in order to "narrate" that thing?
That's actually the same voice-actor who did Sir Nevalle. He was sick that day, according to some posts by the devs on the old NWN2-forum, but they couldn't postpone the recording.

In any case, as Coelocanth said, MotB is much better (though I have my own share of problems with it), and more than makes up for the letdown of an ending.
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bryanmaloney: Did somebody pull in his brother-in-law who one time expressed a passing interest in thinking about doing voiceovers 20 years before in order to "narrate" that thing?
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Gaunathor: That's actually the same voice-actor who did Sir Nevalle. He was sick that day, according to some posts by the devs on the old NWN2-forum, but they couldn't postpone the recording.

In any case, as Coelocanth said, MotB is much better (though I have my own share of problems with it), and more than makes up for the letdown of an ending.
I've done better than that while sick. That excuse has the stink of "come up with something so we don't get lynched" about it. The guy sounds like a bored student reading from the most boring history book ever written in the most boring class taught to the most bored students subject to the most boring professor in the Department of Boring at Boring State University, in Boring, Iowa (Boring Campus).
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Gaunathor: That's actually the same voice-actor who did Sir Nevalle. He was sick that day, according to some posts by the devs on the old NWN2-forum, but they couldn't postpone the recording.

In any case, as Coelocanth said, MotB is much better (though I have my own share of problems with it), and more than makes up for the letdown of an ending.
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bryanmaloney: I've done better than that while sick. That excuse has the stink of "come up with something so we don't get lynched" about it. The guy sounds like a bored student reading from the most boring history book ever written in the most boring class taught to the most bored students subject to the most boring professor in the Department of Boring at Boring State University, in Boring, Iowa (Boring Campus).
It's nice to finally get a calm, rational opinion on the NWN2 OC that is not overly dramatic or filled with unnecessary histrionics. I applaud you good sir for taking the high road and avoiding such frivolous over-exaggerations.

That being said, yes the OC ending is probably the worst part of the experience, including the voice acting. But, as mentioned above by a few people, don't let the OC dissuade you from playing MotB. It trumps the OC in just about all categories.
It's a good thing then that I never actually bothered to finish the OC and dropped it halfway through Act 2. The whole thing was so bad that I just couldn't take it anymore.

Still, I didn't regret paying the full price for NWN2 here on GOG, simply because Mask of the Betrayer, Storm of Zehir and Mysteries of Westgate are all excellent games, and there are some very well done fan modules out there too. Ironically the actual "base" game is the worst part of the package, but imo the rest is great, so do not let the OC discourage you from playing the expansions.
Never cared for the ending or the narration, but I really loved the game overall. For some reason though, just never could get into MotB. I think I just don't like really high level characters.
The NWN2 OC had some great stuff in there. The story arc surrounding the trial was excellently done, and if this had been a stand-alone module it would have received immense praise. Instead, it gets dragged down by the inane filler that is most of chapter 2 and the slow descent into utter trash that is the game's final act. The ending is particularly bad, essentially a "rocks fall, everyone dies" ending with poor narration to add insult to injury.

Aside from the ending, most of NWN2's content is actually quite good when taken individually. Old Owl's Well is a competent "go out and slay some orcs" adventure, but the problem is that you're forced to divert away from a more interesting main plotline to pursue it. If it were a stand-alone module it'd work great. A lot of NWN2's weaker moments have this same vibe; they'd have worked well if they'd been cut off into their own stand-alone adventure rather than shoe-horned into a plot where they serve to detract rather than add to the experience.
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bryanmaloney: They actually had the gigantic clanking brass balls to PUBLISH that load of maggot-laden dog feces that was used as an "ending" on the original campaign. Did somebody pull in his brother-in-law who one time expressed a passing interest in thinking about doing voiceovers 20 years before in order to "narrate" that thing? And the "story" of the ending? There is not enough whiskey in the world for it to make sense to me. SOMEbody thought it was a good idea to actually put their NAME on that?
That's what the publisher wanted, that's what the publisher got.
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Darvin: The NWN2 OC had some great stuff in there. The story arc surrounding the trial was excellently done, and if this had been a stand-alone module it would have received immense praise. Instead, it gets dragged down by the inane filler that is most of chapter 2 and the slow descent into utter trash that is the game's final act. The ending is particularly bad, essentially a "rocks fall, everyone dies" ending with poor narration to add insult to injury.

Aside from the ending, most of NWN2's content is actually quite good when taken individually. Old Owl's Well is a competent "go out and slay some orcs" adventure, but the problem is that you're forced to divert away from a more interesting main plotline to pursue it. If it were a stand-alone module it'd work great. A lot of NWN2's weaker moments have this same vibe; they'd have worked well if they'd been cut off into their own stand-alone adventure rather than shoe-horned into a plot where they serve to detract rather than add to the experience.
Wow, that was extremely well put. I'd never thought of it from that angle before, but I think you hit it spot on. Nicely done.
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bryanmaloney: I've done better than that while sick. That excuse has the stink of "come up with something so we don't get lynched" about it. The guy sounds like a bored student reading from the most boring history book ever written in the most boring class taught to the most bored students subject to the most boring professor in the Department of Boring at Boring State University, in Boring, Iowa (Boring Campus).
Well, if that's what you think, then send a mail to Brian Hutchison, and tell him how bad he did. No point in complaining about it here.